Windows Vista Premium SP1 vs. Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.10 vs. Mac OS X Leopard 10.5
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Today is the day millions of Ubuntu users have been waiting for: The release of the new Ubuntu version called “Hardy Heron”, version number 8.10. We at STR took some time out of our busy schedule to do an in depth comparison between the three major operating systems which are:
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1
Ubuntu Hardy Heron
Mac OS Leopard
We selected the vista version Home Premium because it seemed to come closest to the list of features the competitors Apple and Canonical offer.
Are test machines are: For Ubuntu and Vista: Lenovo Thinkpad with T8100 chipset, Core 2 Duo processor with 2.1 GH and 2 GB Ram. For Mac OS we use a Macbook with Core 2 Duo processor, also with 2.1 GH and also 2 GB Ram.
Let’s get started!
1: Installation:
Windows Vista: The installation of Windows Vista is extremely easy. After putting in the DVD and you will be asked if you want to start from the disc. The next step is basically just to confirm that you want to install Vista on that computer and the machine does all the rest. About 20 minutes later you will be asked to enter your account name and to select an avatar and a wallpaper. After downloading five security patches the Windows system is good to go. It’s the easy going and pleasant way to install a new OS we are expecting from Microsoft. Let’s see how others are doing.
Ubuntu: The installation process with Ubuntu is qute confusing. After starting from the disc you will be asked if you want to start the “Live CD” or install the system or start from the hard drive, which is silly because there is no OS installed on the hard drive. Ubuntu seems not to be smart enough to be aware of that simple fact. After selecting to install Ubuntu the computer is quite busy with copying the files onto the hard drive. First it seemed to be very fast but the big surprise came when the computer was asking us to enter a “domain name” and a “computer name”. My first thought was that I installed the wrong thing because I was not about to host a domain or play silly games by giving my computer names. After consulting Canonical it was clear that you actually have to specify a domain name and also have to give your computer a name. I guess that was implemented by people that are in love with their computers. I am talking hardcore nerds that give their computers names. Well, I called the domain: ShelleyTheRepublican.com and I named the computer George W. Bush. After the installation was complete we were confronted with quite some problems: How do I connect to the internet? To make a long and painful story short: The wireless card was not supported by Ubuntu. The same with the webcam, the soundcard, the fingerprint reader, the sudden motion sensor of the hard drive, the special keys and on and on and on. Nothing really seem to work at all. If you want to use the most basic features like having sound and connecting to the internet you are in trouble with Ubuntu. I contacted Canonical again but they just told me to visit help forums and look for solutions. From there on it was countless hours of looking through threads of “try this” and “maybe that”. Even IT-professionals like me will have a very hard time to get the system running. Why does this have to be so complicated?
Mac OS X Installing a Macintosh system is a whole different story. After 10 unsuccessful attempts to start from DVD I was made aware that I have to press the “C”-key in order to start from the disc. Why? Never mind. Apple must have their reasons. After about 10 minutes of a painfully sounding dvd drive trying to collect all the necessary data the first selection menu appeared asking me for the language I require. Why? I bought the computer in America, I bought the Mac OS X dvd in America. So why is it not just going to install the system in English? Very strange. In the next steps I had to agree to a very long end user agreement and select or deselect certain features I never heard of. After about one hour the computer asked me for the second dvd. The system seems to be huge! Upon further investigation I found out that about 1,000 printer driver have been installed on the system. The printer driver software alone took almost 5 GB of space on my hard drive!!! It turned out that my printer was not even on the list, even though it’s a normal main stream HP printer I recently bought in BestBuy. What is wrong with Apple? Not only does it take ages to install the system but in the last steps of installation Apple tries to sell their rip off services to you! First of all you have to enter your name and address. You can not avoid it. I don’t understand how they can demand to know your personal details. I find that very rude. Then you will be asked to sign up for “Mobile Me”, the Apple mail service. Needless to say that I am very happy with the MSN service I am using for years. I did not sign up for Mobile Me of course. At least it was easy to connect the mac to the wireless network, after establishing the internet connection I was very surprised to see that I had to download almost 3GB of software updates! Apple does not seem to have any concept of software size or availability of space on personal computer systems. Why does an upgrade from Quicktime 7.3 to Quicktime 7.4 have to be 160Mb???
Conclusion: The clear winner is Windows Vista. The installation of Vista is quick and easy. The system does the thinking for you and it comes out just right. Well done Microsoft!
2: First steps: Setting up the computer, surfing the web, installing applications, playing music, watching DVD.
Windows Vista: The looks of Windows Vista are great. Glass effects, shadows, beautiful wallpapers and yet the familiar and screen space saving layout we came to love over the years. You feel right at home in Vista. A few adjustments for the mouse speed and I was good to go. The new Service Pack 1 did really improve the overall feel of Vista. It’s even faster and more responsive. The screen or single appls do not freeze, even under the heaviest of usage. One of the reasons might be that Vista is the only system that is based on Microsoft’s NT technology that also made Windows 2000 a winner. The fact that Vista is a native 64bit operating system makes it a competitor that might be hard if not impossible to beat, but let’s see. Surfing the web is fast and safe. All the necessary plugins and security features are already implemented. Vista comes with “Windows Defender” to protect you from spyware and viruses and the Windows Firewall keeps even the most malicious hacker at bay. Because Vista already comes with a whole bunch of important applications out of the box like Wordpad, Notepad, Internet Explorer, Windows Mail, Disk Defragmenter, Disc Cleanup, Paint, Windows Media Player, Windows Calendar, Windows Contacts, Calculator, Windows Live Messenger, Backup and Restore, Movie Maker, Photo Gallery, a bunch of fun games and much much more, it is not necessary to install any additional applications. Vista just works and there is no need to spend more money on costly applications. Incredible value for the money! Needless to say that playing music and watching DVD is also an easy and pleasant experience.
Ubuntu: Because it was not yet possible to get Ubuntu to connect to the internet I can not determine how many software updates are required. Ubuntu seems to work fine though. The startup is taking quite some time but it least the screen doesn’t stay black. Ubuntu is a free operating system and I do know that “free” usually means “no value”. It seems to me that this is exactly the case here. Logging in using my finterprint is not possible because the fingerprint reader does not work. Surfing the web is not possible because there is not internet connection, playing music is not possible because there is not sound. Wait a minute.. Can we watch DVD? No we can’t actually, because Ubuntu does not come with a DVD player and the “Movie Player” does need some kind of codec I can not download because I don’t have an internet connection. Ubuntu seems to be a complete failure.
Mac OS X: I am not a big fan of Apple’s “Brushed Metal” design. Get over it already, Apple! Brushed Metal is out. Glass is in! Nevertheless everything seems to work. Adjusting the mouse speed was not possible tough. I guess the average Mac user has to trust Apple to adjust the mouse speed for them. Very strange. Other adjustment preferences are missing too. Where do I chance the wallpapers, where can I change the screensaver? Surfing the web though seems possible. The browser is called “Safari” and is, you guessed it, brushed metal. Most of the website I visited with Safari were not rendered correctly. Unfortunately it was not possible to install Internet Explorer on Mac OS. Playing DVD was working great. The built in DVD player started up as soon as I put the DVD into the slot in drive. The drive made horrible whining sounds but at least it worked. Not bad. Playing music though is a problem. Apple does not deliver their operating system with the Windows Media Player. It is also not possible to install winamp. After a long while I was able to locate an old version of the Windows Media Player for Mac. Version 4.5. It doesn’t run naively on Mac OS X, you have to run it inside Mac OS 9 which was installed automatically when installing the OS. Very complicated but at least not as bad as Ubuntu.
Conclusion: This is not really a competition. So far it’s more like the “Redmond Operating System Massacre”. Ubuntu and Mac OS X are badly hurt and running from the powerful Vista OS. No really: Everything once again works just fine on Windows Vista. Ubuntu though seems to be out of the race. What can I do with a notebook with no sound and no internet? Please, put them out of their misery already! As for Mac OS X, well you can surf the web and you can watch DVD but I don’t like the fact that you have to startup a 10 year old OS inside the new OS in order to listen to music. That is just not good enough. Sorry. The clear winner is: Windows Vista! Well done Microsoft!
3: Tests: Speed and Security
Windows Vista: Starting up Windows Vista does only take 15 seconds. That includes sliding the finger over the fingerprint reader, which is a great time-saver. It’s a very respectable time. Our security scan also revealed no problem whatsoever. Vista is airtight. An average hacker does not stand a chance against Vista. All ports are closed by the powerful Windows Firewall. Virus infected emails or spam/spyware emails will be caught by Windows Defender. Many years of experience in the field of providing server solutions have given Microsoft the tools and know how to provide a system that can not be harmed by being online. With Vista you are on the safe side. Sure, it’s not free as Ubuntu and it might not be as “hip” in the gay community as a white and shiny Mac but it’s safe and reliable and that is what we all are looking for.
Ubuntu: Starting up Ubuntu takes 165 seconds. That includes to typing in the password instead of using the fingerprint reader. To be honest, as owner of a brand new Lenovo Thinkpad I would find it very hard to accept to not be able to use my hardware properly. There is no way of using up to date hardware on Ubuntu. We also could not determine the internet security of Ubuntu because it was still not possible to establish an internet connection.
Mac OS X: Our mac needs 69 seconds to startup. This also includes the time I need to type in my password. Apple was unable to provide their systems with a fingerprint reader. A call to Cupertino confirmed what we already know. The support agent said: “We are glad we can put out computers that more or less work. We don’t have the technical know how to implement new features.” Shockingly honest and surprisingly sad. Our internet security scan reveals stunning weaknesses. Mac OS X does not seem to have a firewall at all. Attempts to install known applications like Zone Alarm or Norton Firwall also failed. These applications could not even be installed inside Mac OS 9. Mac OS X has a reputation of being a secure OS, we however can not confirm that to be true.
Conclusion: Let’s make this short.. The winner is, once more, Windows Vista! The shortest startup time, flawlessly working finterprint reader, airtight internet security. What more can you want. I guess the competitors Ubuntu and Mac OS X just want to put their head in the sand by now. I would!
Overall Conclusion: May I suggest to rename “Ubuntu Hardy Heron” into “Ubuntu Useless Moron”? I am stunned actually. I was not expecting Ubuntu to be able to keep up with the word leading operating system software, but at least I expected to be able to use the most basic functions we all need to use every day. Ubuntu was not able to do anything other than to be installed. Very bad. Complete failure.
Mac OS is not as bad as Ubuntu but still no example of good programming skills either. I did not like the fact that Apple is shamelessly trying to sell their services. Do you need the money so urgently, Apple? Your products are expensive enough as it is. Why the hustling for money? I was also very disappointed that I needed to install a 10 year old Microsoft application into a 10 year of version of Mac OS which was operation inside the up to date version of Mac OS just to be able to listen to my music. Apple needs to improve the entertainment capabilities of their OS. Bad!
I did honestly not expect the race to be that definitive, but it is. Windows Vista won in every category. Vista is easy to install, it’s real eye candy, it comes with all the important applications you need and love and all the hardware you can ever own is and will be supported by Vista. I have nothing to add except: Congratulations Windows Vista! The soon to be released version of “Windows 7″ will probably leave Microsoft’s competitors even further behind. I for one just can’t wait!
Connie Fairchild
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Shelley, we keep giving ‘em a chance and they keep failing. When will open-sourcers learn to shut up about their Hardy Herron. It’s a complete failure!
You know, I think you may have noticed that Ubuntu and Apple’s supporters have been saying some pretty nasty things about Windows Vista lately. And you know, I couldn’t agree with them more. I couldn’t disagree with you. I couldn’t agree with you more than the fact that shelleytherepublican.com is the most patriotic, most god-loving, most, most patriotic web site of America, and this is a great part of the Internet.”
We keep giving ‘em a chance and they keep failing. When will right-wing nutjobs learn to shut up about their
- “pro-life” stance
- “guns don’t kill people”
- “succesfull” Iraq War
- “succesfull” War on drugs
- Fiscal discipline (10 trillion in national debt, yep yep)
- Homophobia
- “America is God’s country” (it’s not, get over it)
It’s a complete failure!
Greetings from liberal Holland,
Thomas van der Meer
Exspecting a WIndows optimized system will work at once under Linux? Okay, you´re the worst IT “expert” in history.
“I don’t understand how they can demand to know your personal details. ”
Well, unlike Microsoft, they are at least nice enough to ask instead of just tracing your IP and putting you in their database.
And why differrent languages? Hmm, could it be that some people might want it in another language. Like immigrants or foreigners that bought the system?
“nd the Windows Firewall keeps even the most malicious hacker at bay.”
Sorry, but even a Script-Kiddie, the lowliest of the low in the hacker szene, will rip right through the Windows Firewall.
You also forgot the mandatory bugs and crashes Vista always carries out.
So yeah, all you have shown in that thinly veiled Microsoft advertisement is that you have no real idea about computers. At all.
The German Guy
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!
Pff, as usual you dont search properly on internet ubuntu 8.10 is Intrepid Ibex, hardy heron was 8.04
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_8.10_.28Intrepid_Ibex.29
AS for this
Wordpad, Notepad, Internet Explorer, Windows Mail, Disk Defragmenter, Disc Cleanup, Paint, Windows Media Player, Windows Calendar, Windows Contacts, Calculator, Windows Live Messenger, Backup and Restore, Movie Maker, Photo Gallery, a bunch of fun games and much much more,
as far as i can remember ubuntu comes with
Open Office, gEdit, firefox, evolution, gimp, totem, ekiga and a lot more of useful apps, btw, calculator is not what can be called an application , i can do multiplications on my own….
Vista is not 64 bits native, ther is a 32 bits and 64 bits version, most of people have 32 bits version
The only good point in it, is that it can be difficult to use correctly your wi-fi devices but that do not forbid you to use a wire to get internet…
Anyway this is the same kind of article as the “http://shelleytherepublican.com/the-definitive-review-of-ubuntu-linux-804-hardy-heron” hmm strange you were good on the number version?
Booooooooring!
I remember times, when you used such enlightning phrases such as something like:
“while writing this post notepad.exe only crashed twice, so this is an example of the superior quality of Microsoft Software”
This one was lame… you’ve done better ones.
By the way: Can we only expect Linux vs. Windows when a new Ubuntu Version is released?
Hardy Heron is Ubuntu 8.04, Ubuntu 8.10 is code named Intrepid Ibex. I am certain you had problems installing Ubuntu because you are a dipshit. I install Ubuntu all the time without issue and have used the ubuntu live CD and knoppix cds to repair or save data from crashed broken down Windows systems. Did I mention you are a dipshit?
Bubba
I am sorry but I think Connie did a damn fine job documenting the major differences of the major operation systems.
Bubba,
You are engaging in a childish game of name-calling. Very rude if you ask me.
Shelley
Hey, Connie? Very, very simple way to play music on a Mac. It’s called iTunes. Wow. You guys manage to crack me up EVERY time.
Obama/Biden 08!
” Shelley Goodman October 30th, 2008 8:58 pm
I am sorry but I think Connie did a damn fine job documenting the major differences of the major operation systems. ”
Are you serious? you can’t be that dumb? i can run ubuntu with better graphical effect on a computer that has difficulties running winXP properly, btw the best system windows ever made was 2000 Server & 2003 server, as for Xp it took them a lot of years to come with a stable one, and so will it be for Vista, but M$ prefer to make faster release of windows 7 and the support of XP is longer than it was set, so people can jump from XP to 7, isnt it a proof of the failure of Vista?
Oh, I am sorry I thought I was calling Jimmy or one of your other usual reviewers a dipshit. Let me rephrase that.
Connie, you are an incredible dipshit, a true fearless dipshit unafraid to show your incompetence to the world. Your ability to conflate your shortcomings to be the fault of the operating system is truly spectacular and for that I commend you.
Bubba
I mean the name of linux system is “Hardy”. How homo is that? And ubuntu… I mean that word does not even exist in the American language, maybe it’s some swear word in finnish?
Shelley,
Bubba was merely pointing out that Connie’s ‘analysis’ is flawed from every point of view, she couldn’t even get the name right.
Besides, if there’s anyone who’s engaging in childish name-calling, it’s you and your associates, by for example calling senator Barack Obama a ‘gay negro muslim voodoo priest on crack’. I’ll quote you from your precious book:
Greetings from liberal Holland,
Thomas van der Meer
If I were pushed to try and envisage a person stupider than you, I’d reach the conclusion that you are the optimal value for stupidity.
The tests that you do on each system are purely subjective and don’t take into account that you likely ran these on a system where every single driver was immediately compatible with Vista.
I have only to state that if a god did exist, then I’m sure that he’d sweep you under the rug before he opened a debate about creating humans in his image.
As for the name-calling. I agree; why would you bother engaging in a recursive and vulgar tête-à-tête, when you can simply transcend the very conversation with your religiosity?
Surely your cloud-fellow would simply smiteth all those who opposed you, oh great moronic one.
Traitor. You bought Chinese Communist laptop.
Everytime you buy a Lenovo laptop, you give money to communist china.
Next time, buy Acer (or Gateway/Emachines, same company) and support Taiwan’s democracy and independence from China.
i gonna tell you a plane truth: i can install and use every version of linux in my p3 800mhz, but vista is not even installable, it demand unveliable requirements for the trash that it is.
another thing: i really doubt that you can install vista and get all things ready for work, maybe you forgot to mention all the drivers needed, the activation of windows, the activation of media player, etc etc
Perscitus–Shelley couldn’t possibly buy an Acer, becuase Acer is a lot European, and you know how she hates that wiht all her might.
Shelley–if you want to argue about Windows and Ubuntu and Mac, then you should spell “operating” right. It’s not an operation system.
And that part about the look of the OS is interesting, considering that you are so biased that had Vista been turd-themed you still probably would have proclaimed it the winner.
When the new version of Windows comes out, it’s going straight out my third floor window.
I’ve just bought an Acer Aspire One Netbook. First I tested the Windows XP-Version (A150X), then the Linux one (A150L):
The Linux-Version is up and running in about 15 seconds, while Windows XP tooks about 60 to 90 Seconds. In most reviews the same results. I don’t want to know if Vista is even running on it…
Swip: you are right. “Ubuntu” is a Finnish swearword, it means “F**k you”. I am not making this up.
@ProudLiberal
Acer is #3 computer manufacturer in the world. HP and Dell are the top two.
Acer also owns emachines and gateway. So where ever Gateway and Emachines, Acer is there too. Gateway brand itself has strong US Presence. Acer bought Gateway last year for US$710 million.
The regions Acer controls, the more money they earn. The more money they earn, more taxes paid to Taiwan government. The tax revenue government has, stronger they become.
“Even IT-professionals like me will have a very hard time to get the system running.”
I’m not an IT-professional, but I find it easy… Perhaps I’ll move to the US to work. Maybe in your position! ;-)
@Swip ubuntu is an african word
Its name comes from the Zulu word “ubuntu”, loosely translated as “humanity”, describing the ubuntu philosophy: “I am who I am because of those around me,” a positive aspect of community.
(from wikipedia)
btw @european Linux user, connie is surely not an IT professional, merely someone who installed windows XP twice in his life
This site really cheers me up. Haven’t figured out if its fake or real. I always laugh until my tummy aches. Full of the greatest stuff on the internet.
Anyway… Interesting fact: some of the world’s most powerful supercomputers use Linux based systems.
Oh, sorry, this fact is not useful to STR, because these computers are used by atheist scientists whose only interest is to separate americans from god by calculating supermasive black hole behaviour (things that are so silly, they must not exist. I mean, duh, why would god create black holes if nobody can see them? He would create white holes, which would radiate bibles, christian lightning, rifles and the ocasional Sarah Palin).
And what about Solaris 10, by Sun Microsystems? It has a self healing system which can prevent crashes even before specific errors occur.
Never mind. Blatant satanism. Seriously, who can predict the future but through magic and satanic rituals?
Cheers, my christian phonies!
Unbelievable, the guy making this review story is even more stupid than Windows OS itself. Can you believe it ?
Why do you use wordpress? Did the programs and pages of microsoft not you believe?
In my country your blog makes us laugh too, you think that your people you think? not all make fun of you because of your biased information.
comment that apple is for homosexual … you know about that operating system was developed the campaign of your ex-candidate?
Have you noticed that you’re opensource resources created greacias to linux on your blog?
it is incredible that the most powerful country in the world have the most stupid people in the world. I do not mean the American people, Americans are wonderful, I mean mediocre people like you.
I hope your answer, surely will be “objective” to capture the image of my comment to publish it in several places, surely it removed. To show your cowardice and mediocrity.
Now I think Ubuntu is much better and faster than any verison of windows but I think it is sad when people act like a racist when it comes to operating systems.
are you normal? How can you say that about ubuntu, it looks like you never tried it.
Installing-very easy for me,i think that every BFU can handle this
Internet – no problem,i just booted,double-clicked on firefox icon and started browsing.
Multimedia-same as internet, for music there is rhytmbox, for videos totem,MANY more in repository.
If you are so stupid, you should utfg and shut up.I dont want to look like “racist”, but kind of people like autor of this article makes me rude.
Thx
“How do I connect to the internet? To make a long and painful story short: The wireless card was not supported by Ubuntu. The same with the webcam, the soundcard, the fingerprint reader, the sudden motion sensor of the hard drive, the special keys and on and on and on”
Fast answer: as an IT pro you are, you will know all that stuff will need drivers and that things doesn’t appear by spontaneous generation. If hardware companies doesn’t make drivers compatible with Linux systems don’t blame the OS itself, blame the lazy hardware makers.
“(…)and I do know that “free” usually means “no value”.”
Depending of the point of view. “Free” reminds me more of “freedom” at “cost zero”. And when you have little money to do things, “free” software is a good alternative to do so without breaking the law with piracy. Is in that moment when you appreciate the real “value” of that stuff.
The good point is that I had an entertraining time laughing while reading your “deep analysis”, but for the next review, take your time to check documentation, as a good IT professional should do.
best regards,
OK! Windows is not the best! Mac OS and Ubuntu is the best! 1, release 8.10 is Interped Ibex! 2, Vista is the slowest OS ever! 3, Vista is so not more secure than the Mac or Linux!
I use Vista and Ubuntu side by side everyday and must say that Ubuntu is much easier and reliable then Vista anyday
Vista gives too many errors and needs a lot of maintenance
As for getting online ..both OS balked at my network …BUT Ubuntu was easier to fix….
To me this reviewer didn’t do much homework ///terrible review!
Dear Shelley,
My name is Nicholas Miles. My son is an avid Linux user. He offered to install Ubuntu 8.04 on my computer. I decided I might as well try it for myself. I love it. It does not crash, and the reason that it doesn’t come with a built-in firewall and virus scanner is because it doesn’t get viruses nearly as often as Windows. This is because viruses are generally written for Windows operating systems.
I would also like to say that your review was the worst piece of reviewing I have ever read. You say the Apple OS X(which I despise, believe me) did not have a media player. Yes it does. It has iTunes. It is, in fact, used more often than Windows Media Player EVEN on Windows computers. On Windows, I use iTunes. You also compared all operating system’s abilities with programs TO WINDOWS PROGRAMS. If I were to do that, I could say that those of Islamic faith are more true to their faith than Christians, due to the fact that they pray more. Now of course, I’m not saying this is true (I am also not denying it), however, I am merely providing you with a metaphor. GIMP is a native picture editor in Linux, and is fair superior to Microsoft Paint. I know Apple has a similar program, but I have not used Mac OS X enough to comment specifically on it. Your comments about the design of each operating system had absolutely no bearing on the functionality of the operating system at all.
Your comment that “Many years of experience in the field of providing server solutions have given Microsoft the tools and know how to provide a system that can not be harmed by being online.” is true. What you neglect to mention is Linux’s many more years, and it’s current wider application. 75% of all servers run on some form of Linux distribution.
Lastly, the whole point behind Linux is that it IS customisable, that you CAN do anything you want with it. I hope that you will someday realize that you are doing little more than making a fool of yourself.
If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please contact me at nicholas.miles@cogeco.ca. I can assure you that with a little more in-depth study, you will realize that there are many, many advantages to Linux.
Wow! This cracks me up. Please don’t represent yourself like an IT-professional. That is just not true in any form. If you weren’t able to install Ubuntu (which is one of the simpler versions of linux) u defenetly are no professional. I don’t say this to insult you in any way but only to enlighten you. It’s very possible that you have always known Microsoft products since you use a computer. Of course they seem easier to use than anything else, like speaking your native language will always be easier than speaking a second language. This doesn’t make the second language harder to learn. Basically Ubuntu is different but its actually far superior. Ubuntu is what’s called open source which means that the code for this OS is open to all public. This in turn means that anyone can modify it so think about it for a minute. If anybody can modify it and basically produce their own version then any programmer in the world can fix it’s bugs and report back to the community letting them know how to fix each bug, this makes linux the OS with the highest amount of debuggers (people who fix bugs) in the world. Know it it true that some hardware like your wireless card is not supported, which doesn’t mean that there is absolutely no way of getting it to work (you just have to search a bit in google and you’ll find a way in most cases), but that is not a fault of the OS it’s a fault of the manufacturers that make that hardware for not supplying the appropriate drivers for your current OS. And this happens because of the monopoly that Microsoft has over the market. All windows versions when released are filled with bugs and that’s why we get service packs. This bugs are fixed with the reports you send, but this means that you are sold an unfinished product with many security issues. Vista is not safe. The virus protection and firewall that come with Vista (and XP as well) are very mediocre. Anyways, i urge you to read a bit more on the internet and find reliable sources so you don’t end up basically telling lies and slandering the name of what is, in my and many peoples opinion the best OS there is (linux). And last but not least, if your going to call yourself a professional please go to a good university or technical course and educate yourself before doing so.
“I love it. It does not crash, and the reason that it doesn’t come with a built-in firewall ”
in fact it does… the name is iptables, althought there is no gui, you can install a gui for iptables, type in console sudo apt-get install firestarter
Very accurate and unbiased article, and professionally written too.
you gotta be kidding me right msft? STR is not professional there nothing but a biased racist and arrogant biggots.
Allright Bill Gates, we know its you. Come on out.
If Mac is difficult for you, I’m sorry, but you obviously do not have the brain capicity to think in complete sentences.
I am certain you had problems installing Ubuntu because you are a dipshit.
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD i laughed out sooo loudly when I read this.
ohh come on, shelley you know you never attempted to install ubuntu, you hate linux so much you just made it all up.
Even a moron can install Ubuntu.
Even a moron would realize this review was rich in the Holy Spirit , but alas 99% of you commentators are morons.
Mac will always be behind Windows. All they do is steal other ppl’s ideas. Linux is worse, cause they steal the code itself instead of the ideas. No wonder that criminals and fags loves those systems:P
hegle i doubt your over 18 but if you look back you will notis that after each realise of mac there come one for windows whit similar functions.
and how can you steal something thats already free and isn’t physical.
i am not questioning your belifes just your knowledge of history and comptuers.
Once again, a beautifully inaccurate and inarticulate article denouncing something they have no experience with. Excellent stuff.
Vista has the same amount of security as a field without a gate, its ‘special effects’ are comical in comparison to, say, compiz on Linux. For your god’s sake, internet explorer shouldn’t even qualify for the acid 3 test it’s so full of turd. Microsoft are so full of their own hubris that they won’t see their collapse coming.
My experience of hardware support between Ubuntu and Vista couldn’t have been more different.
I recently installed the latest beta of Ubuntu. All my hardware was supported. My mobile broadband modem was detected and I was asked to set up a connection. I was online within a minute.
I still can’t get support for my webcam (Vista keeps crashing), whereas it works fine in Ubuntu. When is Microsoft going to get its act together and support such basic hardware?
Same with my digital camera – Ubuntu comes with full support including photo managing and editing software. I have to dig around for special software with Vista and install it.
Bluetooth is installed by default – I could upload and download from my phone straight after install. I still can’t get that right with Vista (buggy drivers). Same with the usb digital TV dongle I have.
The only thing I had to do different was to make a special effort to install software to play MP3s and DVDs. But I was prompted and asked to do that.
If you have trouble installing ubuntu, then the term ‘IT profressional’ may not be used to describe you except ironically.
When you install Linux, you don’t need extra drivers to get things working. Have you tried installing Vista on a range of systems? Often basuic things like the graphics card will not work and you’ll require another system just to get things working.
You’re an idiot, and your website doesn’t render correctly in Firefox 3 on Linux. If you weren’t so busy pandering to Microsoft’s FUD machine, maybe you would have time to make sure your site adheres to web standards.
“After starting from the disc you will be asked if you want to start the “Live CD” or install the system or start from the hard drive, which is silly because there is no OS installed on the hard drive.”
I suppose they could have written code to check that, but I’d bet they figured that even an alleged “IT professional” is smart enough to know not to select that option if there’s nothing on the hard drive.
“…the big surprise came when the computer was asking us to enter a “domain name” and a “computer name”. My first thought was that I installed the wrong thing because I was not about to host a domain or play silly games by giving my computer names.”
Hey, IT professional: ever hear of LANs?
“The wireless card was not supported by Ubuntu. The same with the webcam, the soundcard, the fingerprint reader, the sudden motion sensor of the hard drive, the special keys and on and on and on. Nothing really seem to work at all. If you want to use the most basic features like having sound and connecting to the internet you are in trouble with Ubuntu.”
The sudden motion sensor requires OS support?! As for the rest, the problem is not with Ubuntu, but rather with hardware makers who don’t bother to support Linux or to document their hardware so that others can. I’ve run into wireless hardware that isn’t supported, but otherwise I’ve had no trouble, including special keys on “multimedia” keyboards. Of course, I make a point of choosing hardware with Linux support.
I’m sorry, but I think that Ms. Fairchild has all the IT knowledge of a dried kumquat, judging by this incompetent review. Hint: MCSEs don’t come in Cracker Jack boxes…at least I don’t think so.
I am sorry, but I cannot finish reading this rubbish. Hmm, time to start my own review and comment this one. And one more thing… 8.10 is Intrepid… You’re refering to 8.04. It’s hard to take a review seriously if you can’t even get versions correct.
You cannot judge updates with Ubuntu to Windows. First off, more updates are better, meaning that developers are finding their bugs and releasing patches, not just hiding them. Second, Windows just updates the core system files, where as Ubuntu updates all applications that you’ve installed via synaptic/apt-get/aptitude/etc. So that means that you don’t have to worry about updating your apps. Yay. As of one week ago, a new install of 8.10 has 702 updates. I don’t even know what 8.04 has.
Next.. Wireless doesn’t work out of the box for lots of people, me included — but if you had a cat5 cable (you do if you had wireless), then you could’ve plugged it in and added some credibility to your review. However, since you didn’t here. Edit and open all the repositories and then just do “sudo apt-get update”. Go to administration afterwards, then select hardware drivers. It should be there now. Yay.
As for not supporting your hardware, a forum visit will help you, or you can shell out 600 bucks for professional support, if you insist on that. Now for the rest of your hardware, it may also be solved in the same manner (if you’re using a highend sound card, webcam, etc).
For your installation. Both XP can do manual (and automatic? I never do if it does) and Ubuntu can let you do manual and automatic (I say XP cause I haven’t done Vista.). To put this in perspective, I can do an XP and an Ubuntu install start to finish manually without any hiccups. Ubuntu: 1.5 Hours. XP: 8 Hours. This is not just install, this is driver setup, prefered applications, and yes: updates! Can’t play that MP3– let rhythmbox find the libraries for you no problem. Windows: We don’t know that codec. Better hope you know what it is. Lastly, XP/Vista/7 all have PC and Domain names. You enter them on install (XP at least).
Really this is a terrible review by a one-sided fanboy who was bored. And to call yourself an IT professional…
“Even IT-professionals like me will have a very hard time to get the system running.”
Ya. Way to spoil the name. And yes, Linux has some of the greatest security. Did you ever perhaps here of this little os called Unix? Maybe…
Any, grab a brain and do some research MS-FNBY!
Hm. Vista may be the right system for you, as for many other people.
Not bothering to even check what Ubuntu version you had nor getting a cable network connection to actually compare any other Ubuntu features… all that does not really sound like you were interested in an objective comparison, right?
It’s not like a Windows installation would even WORK without an internet connection to do the registration.
To add some anecdotic evidence, I do know several “computer morons” who happily employ Ubuntu. Admittedly, most had more luck with their hardware support.
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Reptor Jebus, my fuckbuddy savior lord, I pray to you to strike this dumbass moronic fanatic “Christian” who doesn’t even know what Christianity is about, let alone have any computer experiences at all
PS: your website runs on Linux ;)
Every single time I have owned a PC, I have had a bad experience with it. Mac computers are more efficient, more environmentally-friendly, more stylish, and just better. Oh, and the reason it doesn’t come with Windows Media Player is that you can download the wonderful program iTunes for free. Plus, internet speed has nothing to do with the computer, it has to do with the internet service provider.
bought a brand new laptop with vista, 5 minutes running and video drivers crashed. Of course, microsoft fixed the problem with a patch, 6 months later.
gg microsoft, my mac started fine, and still runs great.
Regarding Windows Vista, Connie wrote that “the system does the thinking for you…”
Well said, Connie.
Its hilarious, i still think this place is a joke.
I mean
” if you want to start the “Live CD” or install the system or start from the hard drive, which is silly because there is no OS installed on the hard drive”
you have to be kidding? It asks you to start the LIVE CD, so it will start the OS from the DISC not hard drive.
This has to be a joke. C’mon…
I enjoyed the article. But free software is not all to be avoided, there is a lot of good free software, it’s just whatever suits your needs. I’m a scrooge, so I always use free software. Where as Pa’ “I’ve not used a computer since they took up an entire office block” Joe, doesn’t know about the alternatives to corporate software. Whatever floats your boat.
But I loved the linux digging pic!
Windows: for people who can’t connect to the Internet.
Anyone notice the irony in that the STR podcasts are for iTunes?
hahahahaha, Shelley you are worst expert in IT
Windows Vista is Best? Looser
Anywhere OS is Best, Faster anmd Secure Vs Windows (anywhere)
I sure you are payroll of Microsoft!!!
looser
I want to say, this has taken me 2 tries. My Vista (havnt got Leopard yet) crashed.
1. The ‘C’ is for ->CWINDOWS<- music player because its WINDOWS!)
Conclusion: Mac is sprinting ahead. Ubuntu is jogging, to come back later. Vista has a virus, and has crashed about 50 times since i began reading.
And also, Microsoft Office, their big selling point, can be run on Macs.
Boohoo, you cant play music! My Vista crashed my SOUND CARD!
3. Vista: I can permanently loop-crash Vista in 10 seconds from notepad / Python. Since i was 13.
It took my 3 minutes to start up.
Ubuntu: Almost no recorded viruses. AND can wirelessly crash Vista.
Mac: Very few serious viruses. Fast as heck.
Conclusion: in this section, you have noticed i barely touched on speed. Thats because speed relies on your RAM, not the OS.
The firewalls aren't needed.
And Macs have an Alarm system built in. It's called Alarm.
Overall Conclusion: Linux is good for programming.
Mac is good for everything. Also, no matter what button you select when calling their hotline, you get a real person, who is not outsourced, they're in your country and can SPEAK CLEARLY.
Microsoft is good for torture, and many people downgraded to XP from Vista. Really. And, their hotline has one way to get to get a real person. Technical support. after about 10 minutes. this is an actual transcript:
Me: Hello
Indian Woman Operator: Hello?
Me: Listen, my XBox 360 has the Red Ring.
Operator: Hello? What is thee problem?
Me: My XBox 360!
Operator: What is wrong?
Me: Three red lights.
Operator: Have you tried turneeng it off and on again?
Me: Yes, twice.
Operator: Try it again.
Me: Okay… (f**king b**ch)
Operator: HAVE YOU DONE IT!
Me: I'M NOT EVEN THERE YET!
Operator: Okay, hurry up please.
Me: Done.
Operator: Now turn off the internet please.
Me: it is off.
Operator: Turn it on, then off…
And so on. PLUS, it wasn't regional (i'm in Scotland, call in America). Apple is 0800 (toll-free), Microsoft is not.
this is paradoy. has to be. no other explaination.
Okay so let me get this straight…you(a stupid racist technologically illiterate bastard) reviewed Linux and said that Vista is better? GO FUCK YOURSELF, you don’t know anything. Vista had SOOOOO many problems why the hell do you think it was out for such a short time? They replaced it with windows 7 almost A.S.A.P all the other versions of windows lasted at least twice as long…my nothingness…people like you are the reason I’m agnostic if there was a god he wouldn’t let “people”(for lack of a better word, I honestly don’t consider unintelligent life to be people)like you run around and spread your blasphemous poison. Just so you know if Ubuntu did pay said women with live CD’s that’s because it’s LINUX for goodness sake man they give a great operating system for free and then help provide programs free of cost, a lot of people who/have worked on Linux do it for free because it’s what they love, OBVIOUSLY those girls weren’t some of those people…I’ll have you know I would be honored to work on Linux, I love Linux and I have Mac OS Snow Leopard(on my mac), and I have Windows 7 and Linux dual boot on my PC.(FUCK STEVE JOBS, Bill Gates is an inspiration..unfortunately he was corrupted by corporate greed, and Linus Torvalds well…he’s a Philosopher and a great programmer.)
Sir, I do not want to sound arrogant, but your parochial view is quite overwhelming; and your ignorance is just abundant and engulfs other more naive minds, which is more of my concern than yours. I do not know why you presume to have a criteria after leaving this comment “do the thinking for you” that’s just grotesque and ignorant. I apologize but your web page is full of demagogue. The problem with America is that we do not want to think, is to hard to have your criteria.
Your review is a joke. Even a dumbass like me (who doesn’t speak english well) is enabled to install Ubuntu. The internet issue, well, that’s another thing, a lot of hardware manufacturers only works for Windows & Mac. Windows Vista is probably the worst edition of Windows ever. If you aren’t good enough to power on the PC it isn’t Linux fault. I’m very dissapointed, how could the IT Supreme Professional be so stupid? Keep being idiot, Connie.
Sorry about the language massacre.
Microsoft Windows Vista is as bad as Windows 95′ today. Mac OS X works faster, allows easy access to all features by the System Preferences. THINK ABOUT IT, what changed from Windows 98′ to Windows Vista? A FANCY THEME. Linux, I admit needs help, buts it’s pretty damn good for free. Mac OS X IS the easiest, most simple and advanced OS out there. Linux and Windows are very similar, and Mac OS X is a completely different computer (not an IBM compatible Computer) and works differently. THIS SITE IS COMPLETELY F*CKED UP, GOD HAS NO HITLIST AND DIDNT USE A COMPUTER YOU PIECE OF SH*T
good morning. i love your blog STR †THE FREEDOM BLOG© » Windows Vista Premium SP1 vs. Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.10 vs. Mac OS X Leopard 10.5 and will shurely add a link to http://shelleytherepublican.com/2008/10/30/windows-vista-premium-sp1-vs-ubuntu-hardy-heron-810-vs-mac-os-x-leopard-105.aspx on my site.
Madame, i regret to inform you that your knowledge of computer systems is a bit lacking. Nearly everything you have said concerning these operating systems are biased to the point of being comical. This seems to be a theme on this blog, along with bigotry, discrimination, elitism, and an almost militaristic narcissism that calls to mind KKK. Your close-mindinded rants are the worst examples of both the Republican Party and the Christian religion that i have seen, and are an effective caricature of them both. You preach hate against those who think differently than you, and encourage practices that are not only immoral but go against the very Constitution you stand behind. Your words are kin to those of Church during the Dark Ages, violently thrashing out against those who think for themselves rather than let you do it for them. Your Bible teaches an important lesson, one that you seem to have neglected to learn: “Love thy Neighbor as you Love Yourself”. Has anything on your blog spoken of love? No, it is only the hateful writings of a spiteful woman who refuses to acknowledge that there will ALWAYS be people who have different ideas and different beliefs, and if you don’t learn to live with that then you will die alone with nothing to show of your life other than the people you hurt and nothing but your hate to warm you in the cold abyss of your heart.