Sunday Prayer – Lord PLEASE Forgive US!
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Dear Lord,
The American Holocaust is still going on. Abortion is still legal in America. We pray in Jesus’ name that you will find it in your heart to forgive us, O’Lord.
Real American are fighting every day to stop abortion but liberals go on killing your creation every day.
50 Million (50,000,000) Americans have been killed so far.
Please forgive them because they are blinded by liberal hatred against life. Please support us in our war against the American Holocaust.
Amen
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Facts about Late Term Abortion
- Late term abortions are legal in most states. “Late Term” means that an abortion can be done up to the moment of birth. This means that a birth is being induced and in the act of birth the baby is being killed.
- Some late term abortions are being done by putting a salt-acid mixture into the baby’s lungs so that the child suffocates.
- In case of a failed late term abortions, means that if the child is BORN ALIVE, the “doctor” will often kill the crying (LIVING) baby. The act of killing is often been done by drowning the struggling child in a bowl of water. Sometimes the baby will be just strangled to death or it’s head is being cut off.
- The remains of the child will be thrown in the trash or the corps will be used for medical testings.
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INFANTICIDE – The following issues have been raised in order to get you to think more critically about infanticide and why infanticide would be an acceptable form of family planning among the majority of pre-industrial societies. It is normal for people in one society to judge the behavior of people in other societies in terms of the moral values of their own society. This is, in fact, the very definition of ethnocentrism. However, many issues can be raised regarding a variety of methods of family planning that place the practice of infanticide within a broader anthropological perspective.
- Most Americans would consider infanticide to be morally wrong. However, infanticide is widely practiced throughout the world. Is infanticide necessarily immoral and, if so, is it universally wrong? By what criteria do we make that determination, and do those criteria distinguish unambiguously between abortion, which is legal in our society, and infanticide which is not, but which is accepted and practiced in other societies?
- Abortion is legal and is accepted by the majority of the American population as morally correct. Why is abortion an acceptable method of family planning in the U.S., but not infanticide? To what extent are we, by accepting abortion and rejecting infanticide, defining one method of terminating a human life as morally acceptable while condemning another form as morally unacceptable? If infanticide is practiced by peoples who do not have access to abortion technology, can they be considered morally wrong for terminating a human life by the best means they have available to them while accepting our method of terminating a life because we possess the technological means to end that life before birth?
- How does the fact that our own society’s stand on both the legality and morality of abortion has changed radically in the past 30 years affect our certainty regarding the immorality of infanticide? Isn’t it quite possible that future generations may come to accept infanticide as a reasonable method of family planning, just as we now accept abortion and increasingly accept euthanasia and doctor-assisted suicide –practices which would have resulted in a doctor’s losing his or her license to practice medicine a mere 10 years ago?
- Steven Pinker, in his article, “Why They Kill Their Newborns”, distinguishes between neonaticide and the killing of older children (filicide). He shows that, while our own society condemns infanticide, we are, in fact, quite tolerant of those who kill newly born children. He reports that of nearly 300 women charged with neonaticide in the U.S., not one spent more than a night in jail. The general population was much more willing to deal leniently, for example, with the Grossberg-Peterson case involving the killing of a newborn than they were with the case of Susan Smith, who killed her two sons: one 14 months old, and the other 3 year old.
- Our notion that infanticide is committed by disturbed individuals is also not supported by research. First of all, women who practice neonaticide generally go on to become loving supportive mothers when they do have and raise children (as do mothers who have had abortions), in contrast to those women who kill older children. Secondly, as Pinker states, “it’s hard to maintain that neonaticide is an illness when we learn that it has been practiced and accepted in most cultures throughout history.” That many societies practice infanticide is clearly illustrated by the articles in the Infanticide packet.
- The acceptance of abortion but not infanticide in the U.S. has been justified on the grounds that a baby is alive while a fetus is not. When does a human life begin? How do we define life? In the article referred to above, Steven Pinker discusses how difficult it is to determine when a human organism becomes a person with a right to life. Conception, birth, the end of the second trimester are all rather arbitrary definition points for when a human organism becomes a person. Viability is also problematic, given that the human infant cannot survive on its own for several years after its birth and that many infants cannot survive at all without medical intervention, to say nothing of large numbers of the elderly. Furthermore, infant viability is a matter of degree and is clearly much less developed in humans than in most other mammals. Given the difficulty of establishing clear objective criteria for when personhood is achieved –in some societies “personhood” is not conferred until well after birth– on what grounds do we claim that one point in the human organism’s development is more valid and objective (i.e., less arbitrary) for establishing “personhood” and, thus, a right to life than any other point? If the definition of “personhood” is largely socially determined, to what extent is the criteria used for defining “personhood” in our own society any more objective and valid than that used in other societies? How does the controversy over when an abortion is acceptably performed in the U.S. affect our understanding of the social basis of our society’s definition of when life begins? What factors determine who is likely to accept Pinker’s definition and who is likely to reject it? How does their stand on the issue reflect their personal interests rather than an objective scientific look at the issue? Furthermore, when we set arbitrary boundaries as our defining points for the beginning of life, to what extent do we inadvertently kill human organisms that develop more quickly than the established norm? Finally, why is “personhood” used to determine when a human organism is alive rather than some less subjective critria? If we don’t use “doghood” or “cathood” to determine when dogs and cats are alive, are we being logically inconsistent to use “personhood” to determine when humans are alive? Is there a uniform, objective biological definition for the beginning of life that can be applied systematically to all living organisms, including dogs, cats and humans?
- Most biology textbooks define life as possessing the following characteristics: Cells, energy, heredity, reproduction and responsiveness to the environment. All living things are composed of cells. Even such microscopic unicellular organisms as bacteria are considered alive. All living things also acquire and use energy to maintain metabolism. All living organisms also possess DNA organized into genes and chromosomes which form the blueprint for how that organism will develop and grow. Similarly, all living organisms are potentially capable of reproduction. Being able to reproduce offspring which share their genetic material, living organisms (unlike non-living matter) are able to cause the transfer of genetic information from one generation to the next. Finally, living organisms are responsive to their environments. That is, they are affected by their environments and attempt to adapt to those environments. Are these characteristics, which are presented as distinguishing living organisms in nearly every biology textbook written, less applicable to a fetus than to a baby or a young child, to an invalid or an octogenarian, or for that matter to any human being? (Would they also apply to both the sperm and the unfertilized egg? The Roman Catholic Church maintains that they do, which is why it opposed artificial birth control.) If so, then on what logical or scientific grounds is it determined that a baby or a child is alive but not a fetus? What does this say about our society’s support of abortion but not infanticide? Is it logically consistent? And if it is not, then why is it so widely accepted?
The definition of when life begins has changed radically in the U.S. during the past 40 years. To what extent has the definition of when life begins changed because newer definitions serve the changing interests of the individuals or political groups doing the defining? To what extent is the changing definition of life and the recourse to such concepts as “personhood” a function of the pivotal role that the abortion issue plays in American politics? Proponents of abortion in the U.S. refer to abortion as a “right” and challenge any qualification on a woman’s “right to choose”. Any factor that threatens that “right” is vigorously opposed, including mandatory waiting periods and parental notification laws. To what extent might the application of an objective interspecies definition of life to humans in general and to fetuses in particular, also be perceived as a threat by those who want to promote abortion as their “right”? A recent article in The Economist titled “The War That Never Ends” (June 13, 2003) examined the abortion issue in the U.S. at the 25th anniversary of Roe vs. Wade. The article distinguished between the continuing controversy over abortion in the U.S. and its general acceptance in Europe, including in such predominantly Roman Catholic countries as France, Spain and Italy. The article viewed the problem this way.
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Since 1973 you had around 47 million abortions in the States.
Fact is – every year abortion doctors get millions of Dollars from despaired young women (cause they have no money for their child, of her families will not accept the father of this child, or they will loose their job and so on……..)
I am firmly convinced, not the young women are responsible – it is your conservative and bigoted society in rural areas of the Middle West and the Southern States. I tell you why:
A very high number of young women commit suicide after their abortions!
They are not responsible – not the liberals or any other political party. Responsible are bigoted Christians, who claim and point their finger on: This young woman commited extramartial sexual intercourse!! If this young woman lives in a small Christian community – she will loose everything. Her consequences – abortion and suicide.
(We know that, because we have similar problems in European rural areas too – where Christian faith is still powerful).
This is your beloved conservative American Church!
But we had such tragedies in some small villages in South Europe and in the Alps too – especially in rural areas (not such a high number of abortions like in the States).
I was talking to some women, who had abortions – no one of them had a “happy” life after her abortion – most of them fall in deep depressions – or they commit suicide.
Nearby every woman loves her baby too much. Women who had abortions told me, it was her intolerant family, or the company boss at work, or her husband or less money…….and abortion doctors get millions of dollars………….
Please, don`t tell me the liberals are responsible for that. Mainly the Christian communities are responsible, because they claim an abstaining life before marriage. But sometimes sexual contact will happen (this is normal and has nothing to do with the Christian faith, this was just the idea of some Bible writers and translaters – this was not the idea of Jesus and God – in the past bigoted churchmen wrote that into the Bible)
Right now you can see a smililar example by Palin`s 17 years old daugther.
But mother Palin had to be tolerant in her position right now – and they will marry (on the other hand a “hurry-up” marriage is not the best…but we will see).
Mostly just young women have abortion. No girl or woman wants to kill her baby. Responsible for abortions are bigoted and conservative people, communities and companies – and the abortion doctors get their megabucks year by year.
Peter Vienna
Can someone, please, explain me why are they always put pictures of dead babies in the articles about abortions? Do they really think that it can change someones opinion on the subject? It’s just a dead fetus, nothing to be shocked or worried about. I cant possibly imagine someone changing they stance on abortion because of some pictures.
Peter,
liberal policies are directly responsible for these millions of killings.
RottenKnight,
how dare you saying something like that! It’s not “just a dead fetus”, IT’S A HUMAN BEING! Don’t you have any respect for human life, you disgusting pig?
shelley
Shelly, you have no respect for human life, and no, the liberal policies are not responsible for these killings. And it IS JUST A DEAD FETUS. Until the fetus is capable of self-sustained living it is not considered “alive.” But your definition a zygote is a living human being.
Cidkh2,
you sound like a nazi. Are you a nazi?
Ok. According to your rules… If somebody is not “Capable of self-sustained living”… if you are sick, let’s just say you have food poisoning and you need urgent medical attention.. according to your own rules ‘YOU ARE NOT ALIVE’. Well good to know.
Are you willing to kill all disabled persons? Are you ready to heat up the ovens you good German?
Listen, you moron, a fetus has a heartbeat, a fetus has thoughts and can feel pain, can hear the outside world and a fetus has a soul. Who are you to decide what is Life? Look at the pictures. If you have a new born baby in front of you, do you honestly say “it’s not alive, because it can’t live on it’s own”? You are a very sick person. I feel sorry for you.
Shelley
okay… clearly I need to outline every aspect, because you are simply not intelligent enough to understand the idea I am trying to articulate.
Self-sustained living means that, in this case, the organ systems (or in uni-cellular organisms, organelles) are developed enough, so that the organism is capable of life. Up until right near the end of the pregnancy, the fetus is simply not capable of life.
What do you consider human (if you say a creature in the image of god, your a moron) 46 chromosomes is the general rule. When you make bigoted statements like “Listen, you moron, a fetus has a heartbeat, a fetus has thoughts and can feel pain, can hear the outside world and a fetus has a soul. Who are you to decide what is Life?” Well…
A fetus does have a heartbeat…. after a while it can take up to 17 weeks for the heart to even have a minimal function
While the presence of a soul, is something you can’t really prove or disprove, regardless it is not evidence.
No, actually the fetus is not capable of even rudimentary conscience thought, and no, it can’t feel pain, the brain is simply not developed enough until the third trimester.
And, in order to decide what is life? Well, life, as a scientific term, has a definition… so I;m not the one deciding.
“you sound like a nazi. Are you a nazi?”
Nope
“you are sick, let’s just say you have food poisoning and you need urgent medical attention”
Well i was actually referring to, your brain is developed enough to support all living functions under optimal circumstances. But I’ll admit, you did do an amazing job of attacking me when i misspoke (or rather, chose not to elaborate.)
“If you have a new born baby in front of you, do you honestly say “it’s not alive, because it can’t live on it’s own”? ”
An abortion is not killing a new-born baby, an abortion is aborting from the pregnancy. And if it was capable of surviving through a pregnancy, then the organism would be alive (unless of course there was a natural error in the pregnancy or severe genetic defect, which almost always leads to a natural miscarriage, often occurring within the first 20 weeks.)
Just as an FYI, I don’t support any illegal for of prolicide (I know, i said i don’t support illegal things, but feticide is a non-homocidal subset of prolicide)
“Late term abortions are legal in most states. “Late Term” means that an abortion can be done up to the moment of birth.”
Here comes a fact….
“# Some late term abortions are being done by putting a salt-acid mixture into the baby’s lungs so that the child suffocates.
# In case of a failed late term abortions, means that if the child is BORN ALIVE, the “doctor” will often kill the crying (LIVING) baby. The act of killing is often been done by drowning the struggling child in a bowl of water. Sometimes the baby will be just strangled to death or it’s head is being cut off.
# The remains of the child will be thrown in the trash or the corps will be used for medical testings.”
Followed by such an outrageous lie, it can only be summarized by saying OMGWTFBBQ.
The fact you would agree with this viewpoint, (or perhaps have even been the one who wrote this article) clearly shows you have no understanding of what you are protesting against, or open-mindedness to anything outside of your poor interpretation of the bible.
and as a bit of sadistic humor
“He was killed by heartless liberals that don’t value life. He could have invented a cure for cancer…”
His stem cells might actually wind up curing cancer.. fancy that
Shelley, WHO ARE YOU… to decide what life is? Take a look at what you preach then compare it to the Nazis of old. You’ll find it parallel to Hitler’s teachings. The racism, violence and non-tolerance. It’s your kind that’s sick and it is I who feel deeply sorry for you. If abortions were illegal, how long would the women who still go through with them do? Just because something is illegal doesn’t mean it’s going to stop. Slander is illegal but this site does a good job getting away with it almost on a daily basis. You should open your eyes take a look at the things you hide behind (The Bible and Constitution). You’ve no right to judge others.
Obama/Biden ’08
To Shelley Goodman
I have respect for a human life. But fetus is not a human.
Also, now one answered my question.
Shelley – I can talk about Southern Europe and the Alps only – I met some women who had abortions – all their problems have their background in their intolerant society (family, boss, community…) – in Europe it is a society problem. Of course, I am definitely against abortions. I have 2 boys (now they are young men) and we still love them.
But I know from rural areas in the mountains or at the Mediterranean Sea – if this young woman will get a baby before marriage – she will get serious problems. Many of them commit suicide after their abortions. I mean, this can`t be the right way!
I blame all these abortion doctors, who earn a lot of money every year. On the other hand, this unmarried pregnant young woman has to flee from their intolerant family or village community.
This is a serious problem – but I realized, especially intolerant and bigoted village communities are responsible. It would better to support such a young women in this difficult situation. Every woman loves her baby – otherwise they wouldn`t commit suicide after their abortion. Not all, but a high number of them commit suicide. This is a society problem in Europe. I don`t know the situation in North America right now – but I think, it can be similar.
Peter Vienna
“liberal policies are directly responsible for these millions of killings.”
You always here pro-life supporters saying how terrible abortion is and how they are going to vote for a conservative “PRO-LIFE” candidate.
But what about the conservative policies that these “pro-life” politicians are in favor of that kill millions of people?
Loose gun control
Misleading the world to go to war
Pro death penalty
I like how the STR crew won’t address these comments, they’ll say what they can on their soapbox but they won’t come down and actually defend their opinions.
Cidkh2,
we don’t need to defend our ‘opinions’ becaue they are God’s laws. Abortion is murder and whatever you are saying or however you are twisting the truth, nothing will change that simple fact of life!
Shelley
The simple fact of life is that god does not exist. So, no matter how much you scream about his “laws”, you still need to defend your opinion, else it costs nothing.
That baby wasn’t aborted. It was prematurely born by some dumb teenager who got pregnant in the first place because it was her only way to be popular! Then she had the baby in a bathroom, where it died and she then dumped it in the garbage. Wouldn’t be the first time the anti abortion laws did this to girls.
or it could have been a serial killer, or born to a broken home and would end up in prison. or could have been satan.
To Everyone,
I’m a student at UConn right now and I have only just recently become involved in reproduction rights and women’s rights. So my ideas are not that old, but I do believe that after having shared them with my peers (both pro-choice and pro-life) that they might offer a valid
What the real problem is is that no one is willing to work together. Shelley, I’m 99.9% sure that I’ll never convince you that a fetus is not even close to a living human being up until around the third trimester – and that’s fine! I don’t need you to change who you are to make the lives of pregnant, un-wed women better. I am pro-choice, but we have something (and right now probably the ONLY thing) in common; it would be ideal if a woman did not have to feel that she needs to have an abortion to live the life she dreams of.
The focus should not be on who is right or who is wrong – that is an argument of faith and spiritual belief, and I’ll speak for myself on this, telling me that I’m wrong because your God says I am wrong is not going to make me change my mind or even listen to you. Perhaps then, the focus should be on finding ways to get pregnant women the resources and support they may need (notice I said MAY need, not DEFINITELY need) in order to have an equal chance at fulfilling their dreams and goals as their male counter-parts. To be honest, if a woman were pregnant while trying to make her way to the top of her career, I wouldn’t be surprised if more often than not, she would love to have her child be apart of it.
Having said that, and I know I tend to ramble, pro-life people MUST realize that there aren’t these kind of resources or enough support to make this happen! A woman’s body belongs to her and no one else. The only thing that you can do is try to help by making it easier. Trying to convince people that their beliefs are wrong will only infuriate, scare, and push away those whom you are trying to communicate with.
I hope I didn’t ramble too much with this and I look forward to hearing anyone’s feedback.
Sam
Abortion is one of the few things that I completely agree with. But I do feel that Sam, sef007, has brought up an extremely good point. Maybe the reason that nothing has been done about abortion is that so many people are looking for a black-white response. America needs a response that is in a Gray area. I believe that abortion should be illegal, but with provisions made for women that were: a)Raped b)Are put at extreme health risk or c)the DNA of the husband and wife means that the baby is garunteed to have life-long health issuse.
What the fuck??
Youre against teenagers having kids, but they cant have an abortion?
Most of the fucking time the FETUS is aborted cause the parents cant look after it, theres no money or mabey they just wouldnt be able to look after it properly or the parents dont want it.
so remind me again how you have the nerve to say all that shit about britain when you americans kill a baby, not a fetus.
HERE, you cant have an abortion if its over four months old, yet you kill it when it can actually breath?
Actually, there are lots of people on the left who are horrified of late term abortions. I feel that if an abortion’s going to happen, it must happen within 2-3 weeks of conception, before most brain and organ activity can begin.
tsk tsk tsk
again with the nazi/hitler thing
do you even know why hitler did what he did?
he believed that jewish people were lesser being and needed to be squished.
just because they had a different religion.
are you any different?
you think that athiests and foreign countries should die because of how they think or look.
That is eerily similar to hitler dont you think?
present your argument.
These types of abortions only happen very rarely and in very extreme situations. Only a few have occurred.
Most of the time, if not all of the time, these types of abortions are performed when the mother is in danger.
Honestly, I doubt many sane people like killing live babies, so naturally these abortions would not happen very often.
You’re such a sick fuck for trying to warp the brains of the misinformed. However, there is also the possibility that you are ignorant as well, and you’ve simply been brainwashed by what is called extreme conservatism.
Have fun basking in your lies.
-Vanessa, someone in the middle of the road in politics.
I have read the comments obove. i dare to say to all the idiot pro-aborts. i dare you to look at the drawings in my book and see how many of them are not sick or deformed. But are perfectly normal and tell them to thier face, how you can defend thier slaughter. COME TO CHRIST BEFORE YOU DIE AND END UP IN ETERNAL HELL FIRE.THIER IS A GOD AND HE SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR YOU, YOU, SO REPENT!!!
Showing photos of these poor, mangled babies is disrespectful and tasteless. I have never seen someone scared out of being pro-choice because they saw these horrible pictures. All they do is make the right-wing, fundamentalist Christians look like crazy people who enjoy gruesome death photos of these potential lives. It makes you look like people who jerk off to the bloodiest, meatiest, violent pictures you can possibly find. If your mother died a horrible death by mutilation, would you want clear, close-up photos of it posted on the Internet to try to prove a point? If you really believe that these fetuses had thoughts and feelings and a soul–how do you think they would feel to have their image desecrated in such a manner?
Would Jesus take these pictures and shove them in people’s faces? I think some of you nut jobs read only a quarter of the Bible… there was a large part in there you must have missed about leading by EXAMPLE and teaching through LOVE. Please tell me where it was in the Bible that Jesus ever brought people into his flock by using fear tactics.
For your information, Bush declared abortion leagal too(way before Obama Steped in to office). BOTH of them did. If you say thats what Obama stands for than thats what both of the Bushes stand for too. Hun get your facts straight before you bash someone. Even if Barak Obama were to try and get that law removed there would be a big uproar from the people that feel that abortion is necessary. I am not saying I support abortion because I dont either, its horrible. When you get down to it, it is someones PERSONAL decision and this is a free country.
Is this really what happens in America? Thank God (who doesn’t exist anyway) I am not American. Its Barbaric.
God is real people whoever dont belive in him GODBLESS you cuz who knows were you r going after life itself i know i have faith for juses christ he is our savior he will love us and forgive us if i were the person who said god isnt real i would ask for forgivness if i were you.
For the abortion thing people have options i say if the fetuse is 3months yea ok but anything over that is wrong. COME ON remember your period date girls…
This is ridiculous, most if not all pro-choice supporters do not support late term abortions. To spread such propaganda like this is disgraceful. Late term abortions are illegal in the US, which means those done are done in secret. Much like exchanges of illegal substances. It’s definitely not being condoned by our President to say the least. I think it’s shameful that you try to take advantage of the less educated in attempting to convince them that sanctioned abortions = ripping babies’ heads off. You’re spreading lies and creating as well as perpetuating misconceptions.
I will never forgive you awful sinners. You are all sinners and you must sacrifice your first born to me for me to even consider forgiving you.
any being that kill’s their child is a sinner…well isn’t that exactly what god did he created a being to be killed to save us it just boggles my mind how you warp someone who was kind to everyone including Prostitutes to fit your own agenda god will smite you for being gay, killing babies and the list goes on the only way to salvation is to do what some being in the sky says at all time’s well screw that I’m not giving up my Sunday morning’s to go worship someone who doesn’t exists you believe in god to make yourselves comfortable with the idea of dying well there is no bright light at the end of the tunnel you live you die period there is no extra so I suggest that you spend it how ever you want to marriage sucks but hey if two chicks wanna get married that’s their problem and as for babies well they suck kids are a huge waste of time there annoying and loud and not good for anything except for sucking your money and taking time away from stuff that you like doing enough with the kids our planet is almost at it’s 7 billion people mark we could use a lot less children as for the whole we are christians we are good that’s sooo B.S you republicans are the one’s at church screwing around on your wives’ or husband’s you can act all uppity but remember your god see’s everything you do so the next time you wanna call someone out for something think about those skeletons in your closet first…
THE FETUS IS A LIVING THING FROM CONEPTION!!!!!!!! YOU WILL GO TO HELL FOR NOT BELIEVING THIS QUALITY OF LIFE. THESE BABIES ARE REAL LIVING THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More than likely he would have grown up unloved and abused. How many crack babies do you loving people foster? How many children abused and battered to the point of life long psyche problems do you foster and protect? It’s a nice thought he would have grown to cure cancer, more than likely he would have grown to be a drug addicted criminal who dropped out of school because he had no support and was abused by a mother that could not raise him to be productive. Is it better to be killed from constant abuse at age 7 than it is to be aborted? Save the kids already here, maybe that will end the symptom of abortion in our ugly social disease of not caring.
The druggie down the street is a real living thing so is the prostitute and the run away teen on the street robbing you for survival.
I believe abortion is wrong no matter what!!!!!!!!! You get pregnant you should have to deal with the consequences of ur actions and take care of ur child, not kill it!!!!! I believe that anyone who is heartless enough( and obviously DUMB!! enough if ur saying a fetus isn’t human) to get an abortion should have their brains sucks out of their skull and die just as these helpless babies have!!!!!!!!!!!
My God, PLEASE stop showing this shit!
I wasn’t in no way looking for an article like this when I started searching Google for images of baby skulls…no I’m not sick or depraved, just looking for a cute little drawing of a skull for a onsie that I plan on making for my nephew. Ok, that said, I found this website and have read all of the article and all of the comments. First of all, America’s main issue is the fact that we do have freedom of speech, not that I am complaining, beings that I am using that freedom right now…anywho, I too once was a Church goer and a Christian, and now I am more of a Wiccan than anything. Do I belive in God…yea, in a sense I do, but not in the ‘God is going to Damn me to “hells fire” if I don’t do what he tells me to’ type of God. My idea of God is more of a loving and forgiving spiritual being. I don’t even believe in Hell. Now, onto the subject at hand, abortion. For me personally, I would choose not to abort my fetus, because I wan’t a child and would welcome he/she with open arms. I would never look down my nose at someone and beat them with a book that is not only outdated, but can never be proven 100% real. If you think that ever since this book was compiled together that greedy people in high places didn’t edit those pages, then you are more than nieve my friends. Let’s all follow the rules of a book that tells you that killing is wrong and then turns around and tells you that you can stone your child to death for disobeying you…it contridicts itself almost as often as you turn a page. The worst thing about religion is that it is the longest war in human history. Ok, I agree with all of you who commented that it’s not so much that a woman wants to ‘kill her baby’ as it is that society is too demanding of what it expects of her. Girls and Women get pregnant every day, and it is not at the most welcomed times in their lives. What they choose to do with their pregnancy is their business. I would much rather hear of a Woman having aborted her child than to find out years down the road that she beat her child to death, or starved, or sold out for drugs, or whatever else may possibly happen. By the way, if a child was placed inside of a woman because God had a specific plan for that child, wouldn’t you think God would have chose the correct parents and situations for this child to flurish and grow and ‘cure cancer’ someday? It doesn’t make much sense to try and shove a picture of a dead fetus in everyone’s face and state “He could have cured cancer…” because quiet honestly, that wasn’t God’s plan for this child. Bible thumpers and Jesus freaks are just another form of hate in the world. I grew up in a home where there was no religion, I found it on my own, made up my own mind, and my Mother has supported me the whole way. If the world was perfect, than everyone would have a Mom like mine, who would never try to convince me that if I were to have an abortion I am going to Hell, she would support my decision and stand beside me. But the world isn’t perfect, and you can’t have my Mom, because she’s mine!!! LOL Besides, according to your religion, you can go on a murder spree and as long as you repent and ask for forgivness, you go to Heaven anyways…so your points are pretty mute anyways. Look on the bright side…those ‘babies’ are in Heaven, which is a lot better than being stuck in Hell aka Earth.
You are an idiot. Thanks for sharing your ignorance. It was well worth the laughter.
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You people are so idiotic. I’ m a teenager and even I realize that a baby is a living thing. A baby’s heart starts beating and about 3 weeks and by that time the mother usually doesn’t know she is pregnant. They can feel pain and want to be loved. I don’t care if I was raped right now( I’m 13) I would keep and love that baby like there was no tomorrow. In my opinion if you didn’t want a baby you should keep your skanky little legs closed. And I do understand about girls and women who are raped they don’t want to deal with the constant reminder of that horrible time well you should just give the baby up for adoption and if you do end up keeping it it was probably because you loved it and you wouldn’t know that love if you had aborted it. Most women would die for their children so if I found out I would die giving birth to my baby I would die for it in a heart beat. God put that baby in you for a reason it could have been the next Albert Einstein or George Washington so if you think you are greater and know better than God( the person that created you) you then you don’t deserve to every have a precious little angel sent from Heaven . People may be able to take life but Gid is the only one that give life. If a pregnant women was murdered it is counted as a double homicide. But as Barack Obama has made perfectly clear a baby is not a baby until it is born so then the murder should only be counted as homicide 1 right. I just love how they don’t even follow the constitution stating that EVERY ONE has the right to life. People y’all seriously need to get y’alls heads out if y’alls asses and realize that over 1 million innocent human beings are killed every year!
Dreamer8402 obviously you are very ignorant. It is not a sin if you didn’t know it is a sin and if you don’t do it purposely. But if you know it is a sin and you intentionally do it then it is a mortal sin. One of the Ten Commandments is that you shall not kill and abortion is murder. God will forgive you but when it comes down to it on judgement day he will look at if you are sorry for sins you have commited and if you have asked for forgiveness.
Ohhhh Stephanie:( you are just as ignorant as dreamer. If you knew anything about religion it’s not my religion it is for everybody. God made people with a free will that means that they could mess up. In the beginning God made Adam (which means male) and Eve (which means female) he let them in his Garden and let them do as they pleased but they had one rule not to eat from one of the trees. Eve was tempted by the serpent to eat it and she got her husband Adam to eat of the tree too. God went to the garden to see them and found them hiding and he said we are you hiding and they said because we are naked and he said how did you know you are naked . God had already knew what they had done because he knows all. Soo he banished them from the garden forever. If they wouldn’t have sinned people would live on and on and have no pain at all and we would be perfect. And then their son Cain went and killed his brother Able and then mankind just got worse and worse as time went on. So I just enlightened you on something that you thought you knew but you actually didn’t. Those who do not accept correction are jackasses.
And hunny think about it you were a kid once and did the exact same thing as children these days