Comments on: Thank God and George W. Bush for the watchlists http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists Join is in our new chat forum! Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:23:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Sara Carter http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149451 Sara Carter Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:43:14 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149451 what are you implying axel saying you and not us were chosen by god sounds to me that your saying your better then us just because you think of yourself as a christian. there is nothing worse then a snobby chrisitian such as axel and STR you need to get rid of that holier then thou attitude. what are you implying axel saying you and not us were chosen by god sounds to me that your saying your better then us just because you think of yourself as a christian. there is nothing worse then a snobby chrisitian such as axel and STR you need to get rid of that holier then thou attitude.

]]> By: LeftTurn http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149419 LeftTurn Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:08:09 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149419 <blockquote>Everyone knows that the Arabs want to kill us. Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit.</blockquote> They don?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t inherently hate you; Israel has set itself up in rigid opposition to its neighbours, and this is the source of their anger. Look at it from their perspective: pro-U.S., non-Arabs suddenly arriving and kicking the established Arabs out. In a schoolyard, you'd immediately view the intruder as a bully, and indeed Israel's frequent incursions into neighbouring Lebanon and grossly disproportionate use of force to counter Hamas aggravates this image. This 'with-us-or-against-us' stance is purely absurd. If you had taken more time to befriend and co-operate with your neighbours, you wouldn't need to feel so paranoid. But instead, you play the victim, and have something of a revenge doctrine. I take it, Axel, that you're Israeli?

Everyone knows that the Arabs want to kill us. Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit.

They don?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t inherently hate you; Israel has set itself up in rigid opposition to its neighbours, and this is the source of their anger. Look at it from their perspective: pro-U.S., non-Arabs suddenly arriving and kicking the established Arabs out. In a schoolyard, you’d immediately view the intruder as a bully, and indeed Israel’s frequent incursions into neighbouring Lebanon and grossly disproportionate use of force to counter Hamas aggravates this image.

This ‘with-us-or-against-us’ stance is purely absurd. If you had taken more time to befriend and co-operate with your neighbours, you wouldn’t need to feel so paranoid. But instead, you play the victim, and have something of a revenge doctrine.

I take it, Axel, that you’re Israeli?

]]> By: LeftTurn http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149418 LeftTurn Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:58:43 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149418 <blockquote>On the contrary, most Americans are of the Evangelical, born=again Christian religion. They believe in the Jews and the restoration of the great Jewish Kingdom of Israel, with the border it had under King David, and its dominance on the Middle-East.</blockquote> See now, they're not supporting the Jews themselves, but the Jewish state as a pro-U.S. foothold in the Middle East. Frankly, if they weren't so cozy to the American government, I doubt it'd give a damn. <blockquote>Everyone knows that the Arabs want to kill us. Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit.</blockquote> They don't inherently hate you; Israel <blockquote>This is worst than supporting Hitler (noone knew what he was doing, not even the Red Cross, so 99,99% of the Europeans fascists / German Nazis were much less antisemitic, even they didn?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t want to kill the Jews, except Hitler and his friends).</blockquote> I'm sorry, but that is painfully optimistic thinking. <i>Mein Kampf,</i> a well-read book in the 30s, gave everyone a clear and concise view of what Hitler planned on doing when he came to power. Before the war began, he attempted to deport the Jews, but no nation would accept them (Prime Minister W.L. MacKenzie King famously stated "None is too many."). The Nuremburg Race Laws made it clear to European powers that Hitler intended to carry through, but they kept their borders shut. As to your assertion that the German populace was not supportive, I ask you this: how could the Holocaust have been so efficiently executed if the people opposed this execution? The blackest mark of all is the collusion between the Nazis and Jewish elders (Judenrat, anyone?). <blockquote>Peter: excellent very insightful comments, I appreciate very much your well reasoned and argumented points</blockquote> Indeed. He states the facts without turning partisan. There are people on this site who could learn a lot from him. <blockquote>I can?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t cope with it, I need to say that I feel that all these people desire to kill me, to send me to the gas chambers. This hate is terrible. This hate oppresses me, keeps me thoughts busy, captive.</blockquote> That is a gross overstatement, and your continual hyperbole only aids in marginalizing the Holocaust you speak so passionately of. People would hold more respect for Israel if it didn't constantly play the victim, and use its terrible history as an excuse to inflict misery on its Arab neighbours. You say we should respect your right to exist, but why should we when Israel refuses to recognize the rights of Palestinians? The land belongs to <i>both</i> of you; the conflict will continue until you learn to share.

On the contrary, most Americans are of the Evangelical, born=again Christian religion. They believe in the Jews and the restoration of the great Jewish Kingdom of Israel, with the border it had under King David, and its dominance on the Middle-East.

See now, they’re not supporting the Jews themselves, but the Jewish state as a pro-U.S. foothold in the Middle East. Frankly, if they weren’t so cozy to the American government, I doubt it’d give a damn.

Everyone knows that the Arabs want to kill us. Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit.

They don’t inherently hate you; Israel

This is worst than supporting Hitler (noone knew what he was doing, not even the Red Cross, so 99,99% of the Europeans fascists / German Nazis were much less antisemitic, even they didn?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t want to kill the Jews, except Hitler and his friends).

I’m sorry, but that is painfully optimistic thinking. Mein Kampf, a well-read book in the 30s, gave everyone a clear and concise view of what Hitler planned on doing when he came to power. Before the war began, he attempted to deport the Jews, but no nation would accept them (Prime Minister W.L. MacKenzie King famously stated “None is too many.”). The Nuremburg Race Laws made it clear to European powers that Hitler intended to carry through, but they kept their borders shut.

As to your assertion that the German populace was not supportive, I ask you this: how could the Holocaust have been so efficiently executed if the people opposed this execution? The blackest mark of all is the collusion between the Nazis and Jewish elders (Judenrat, anyone?).

Peter: excellent very insightful comments, I appreciate very much your well reasoned and argumented points

Indeed. He states the facts without turning partisan. There are people on this site who could learn a lot from him.

I can?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t cope with it, I need to say that I feel that all these people desire to kill me, to send me to the gas chambers. This hate is terrible. This hate oppresses me, keeps me thoughts busy, captive.

That is a gross overstatement, and your continual hyperbole only aids in marginalizing the Holocaust you speak so passionately of. People would hold more respect for Israel if it didn’t constantly play the victim, and use its terrible history as an excuse to inflict misery on its Arab neighbours. You say we should respect your right to exist, but why should we when Israel refuses to recognize the rights of Palestinians? The land belongs to both of you; the conflict will continue until you learn to share.

]]> By: Proud german http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149416 Proud german Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:02:13 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149416 "Talk to you again on the topice after this incoming law is passed?¢‚Ǩ¬¶. I bet you will speak in a quite different tone?¢‚Ǩ¬¶." American laws are making me yawn anyway. THe us govenrment can pass what it wants, I don?Ǭ¥t give a fuck. It?Ǭ¥s the same for Peter, he?Ǭ¥s austrian after all. "I can?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t cope with it, I need to say that I feel that all these people desire to kill me, to send me to the gas chambers. This hate is terrible." Now now, you are a sensible one. No one here ever mentioned killing you. You are quite a douchebag, but that?Ǭ¥s simply a bit over the top. The German Guy IMEPACH BUSH! “Talk to you again on the topice after this incoming law is passed?¢‚Ǩ¬¶. I bet you will speak in a quite different tone?¢‚Ǩ¬¶.”

American laws are making me yawn anyway. THe us govenrment can pass what it wants, I don?Ǭ¥t give a fuck. It?Ǭ¥s the same for Peter, he?Ǭ¥s austrian after all.

“I can?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t cope with it, I need to say that I feel that all these people desire to kill me, to send me to the gas chambers. This hate is terrible.”

Now now, you are a sensible one. No one here ever mentioned killing you. You are quite a douchebag, but that?Ǭ¥s simply a bit over the top.

The German Guy
IMEPACH BUSH!

]]> By: ROCKET http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149415 ROCKET Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:45:33 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149415 Axel you feel bad because you are being a totall douche =) " I need to say that I feel that all these people desire to kill me, to send me to the gas chambers. This hate is terrible. This hate oppresses me, keeps me thoughts busy, captive. " Ah! this explains it all you are just paranoid, you just think people wanna kill you, then be killed i say. because its more of a wish you want to be fullfilled. you keep saying how people wanna kill jews....dude you are PARANOID. So jews are the victim now right?... but i guess you dont give a crap what happens in other country's its all jews jews jews jews. you only support america for the sake of all jews, you dont even like america for that matter. Axel you are an idiot. Axel
you feel bad because you are being a totall douche =)
” I need to say that I feel that all these people desire to kill me, to send me to the gas chambers. This hate is terrible. This hate oppresses me, keeps me thoughts busy, captive.
”

Ah! this explains it all you are just paranoid, you just think people wanna kill you, then be killed i say. because its more of a wish you want to be fullfilled. you keep saying how people wanna kill jews….dude you are PARANOID.

So jews are the victim now right?… but i guess you dont give a crap what happens in other country’s its all jews jews jews jews. you only support america for the sake of all jews, you dont even like america for that matter.

Axel you are an idiot.

]]> By: Axel http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149414 Axel Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:16:05 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149414 I am back writing here, all this hate I have been experiencing keeps troubling me, I really feel bad. I can't cope with it, I need to say that I feel that all these people desire to kill me, to send me to the gas chambers. This hate is terrible. This hate oppresses me, keeps me thoughts busy, captive. However there is no anti-hate-speech law yet that could help this evil situation, so I suggest that to make the world a better place (never again the holocaust!) you start every day by: - meditating about the holocaust - praying for the peace of Jerusalem/Israel. Thank you for caring about stopping all the hate against the people which all European countries /peoples had been persecuting , killing and deporting throughout 2000 years of "shared" history. Never forget that. Respect our religion, do not hate us because we and not you were chosen by G-d, and understand our deep longings inspired by G-d: "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, Let my right hand wither, Let my tongue cleave to the roof of its mouth". I am back writing here, all this hate I have been experiencing keeps troubling me, I really feel bad. I can’t cope with it, I need to say that I feel that all these people desire to kill me, to send me to the gas chambers. This hate is terrible. This hate oppresses me, keeps me thoughts busy, captive.
However there is no anti-hate-speech law yet that could help this evil situation, so I suggest that to make the world a better place (never again the holocaust!) you start every day by:
- meditating about the holocaust
- praying for the peace of Jerusalem/Israel.
Thank you for caring about stopping all the hate against the people which all European countries /peoples had been persecuting , killing and deporting throughout 2000 years of “shared” history. Never forget that.
Respect our religion, do not hate us because we and not you were chosen by G-d, and understand our deep longings inspired by G-d:
“If I forget thee, O Jerusalem,
Let my right hand wither,
Let my tongue cleave to the roof of its mouth”.

]]> By: Axel http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149412 Axel Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:48:42 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149412 I willl not talk further on this with rude people who make me feel very bad, who hurt my feelings. This only confirms that the next president of the USA will really have to make a law to not only fordid but also criminalize hate speech. Find out more on http://www.adl.org/ Talk to you again on the topice after this incoming law is passed.... I bet you will speak in a quite different tone.... I willl not talk further on this with rude people who make me feel very bad, who hurt my feelings. This only confirms that the next president of the USA will really have to make a law to not only fordid but also criminalize hate speech. Find out more on http://www.adl.org/
Talk to you again on the topice after this incoming law is passed…. I bet you will speak in a quite different tone….

]]> By: Random Aussie/ New Zealander http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149403 Random Aussie/ New Zealander Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:48:53 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149403 "Calling bullshit on this. And even if it were true, they could as well have migrated to the USA." Some of them did, there was this one guy, Albert Einstein... “Calling bullshit on this. And even if it were true, they could as well have migrated to the USA.”

Some of them did, there was this one guy, Albert Einstein…

]]> By: Proud german http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149401 Proud german Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:13:45 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149401 "Everyone knows that the Arabs want to kill us. Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit." Bullshit.In the same style one could say that anyone supporting Israel indirectly supports the opression and sufferring of the Palestinians as well as unprovoked wars against israel?Ǭ¥s neighbours. The simple fact is that ISrael is occupying huge parts of Palestine without any right to do so. PS: Most Arabs would likely be satisfied already if the ISraelis would stopp occupying their land. "And please refrain from antisemitic statements against the Jews or Israel (in Europe they would sentence you to jail for this)." Antisemitism means hating jews because they?Ǭ¥re jews. No one here ever said that he hated jews in the first place, let alone because of their religion/ancestry. Your claim of antisemitism is blatant drivel. (For the audience: I don?Ǭ¥t hate Israel. I just think they?Ǭ¥re dumb as fuck for occupying territory that isn?Ǭ¥t theirs and eyspecting to still get to peace with any neighbours.) "Whatever the rights of the Jews on the land of Israel, the Jews from Europe had to go back because their life had never been safe in Europe." Calling bullshit on this. And even if it were true, they could as well have migrated to the USA. The German Guy IMPEACH BUSH! “Everyone knows that the Arabs want to kill us. Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit.”

Bullshit.In the same style one could say that anyone supporting Israel indirectly supports the opression and sufferring of the Palestinians as well as unprovoked wars against israel?Ǭ¥s neighbours. The simple fact is that ISrael is occupying huge parts of Palestine without any right to do so.

PS: Most Arabs would likely be satisfied already if the ISraelis would stopp occupying their land.

“And please refrain from antisemitic statements against the Jews or Israel (in Europe they would sentence you to jail for this).”

Antisemitism means hating jews because they?Ǭ¥re jews. No one here ever said that he hated jews in the first place, let alone because of their religion/ancestry. Your claim of antisemitism is blatant drivel. (For the audience: I don?Ǭ¥t hate Israel. I just think they?Ǭ¥re dumb as fuck for occupying territory that isn?Ǭ¥t theirs and eyspecting to still get to peace with any neighbours.)

“Whatever the rights of the Jews on the land of Israel, the Jews from Europe had to go back because their life had never been safe in Europe.”

Calling bullshit on this. And even if it were true, they could as well have migrated to the USA.

The German Guy
IMPEACH BUSH!

]]> By: ROCKET http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149393 ROCKET Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:51:30 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149393 " On the contrary, most Americans are of the Evangelical, born=again Christian religion. They believe in the Jews and the restoration of the great Jewish Kingdom of Israel, with the border it had under King David, and its dominance on the Middle-East. " not this website they think god will return to its rightfull trone somehere in " america". "And please refrain from antisemitic statements against the Jews or Israel (in Europe they would sentence you to jail for this)." i live in the netherlands, and thats just untrue dude. "" Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit. " what kind of bullshit is this? i dont support america nor the arabs nor the jews? so what are you trying to say that i want to have world domination because i support no country??? you are biased =/ just stupid really. and for fuck sake you act like hitler, like if there should only be 1 supreme race....=/ ” On the contrary, most Americans are of the Evangelical, born=again Christian religion. They believe in the Jews and the restoration of the great Jewish Kingdom of Israel, with the border it had under King David, and its dominance on the Middle-East.
”

not this website they think god will return to its rightfull trone somehere in ” america”.

“And please refrain from antisemitic statements against the Jews or Israel (in Europe they would sentence you to jail for this).”

i live in the netherlands, and thats just untrue dude.

“” Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit.
”
what kind of bullshit is this? i dont support america nor the arabs nor the jews? so what are you trying to say that i want to have world domination because i support no country??? you are biased =/ just stupid really.

and for fuck sake you act like hitler, like if there should only be 1 supreme race….=/

]]> By: Axel http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149391 Axel Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:49:43 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149391 Rocket, I know of course that Americans stem from Europeans, but they are culturally different as everyone knows. The important difference is religion: Europe has been dominated by two antisemitic religions, Catholicism and Lutheranism (have you never heard of all the antisemitic propaganda produced by Luther???). Whatever the rights of the Jews on the land of Israel, the Jews from Europe had to go back because their life had never been safe in Europe. On the contrary, most Americans are of the Evangelical, born=again Christian religion. They believe in the Jews and the restoration of the great Jewish Kingdom of Israel, with the border it had under King David, and its dominance on the Middle-East. This is why, as I have said before, America is a country blessed by G-d. And please refrain from antisemitic statements against the Jews or Israel (in Europe they would sentence you to jail for this). Everyone knows that the Arabs want to kill us. Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit. This is worst than supporting Hitler (noone knew what he was doing, not even the Red Cross, so 99,99% of the Europeans fascists / German Nazis were much less antisemitic, even they didn't want to kill the Jews, except Hitler and his friends). So antizionism is the worst kind of antisemitism. Peter: excellent very insightful comments, I appreciate very much your well reasoned and argumented points, much above the level of the leftists, liberals posting here. Thank you again Peter. Rocket, I know of course that Americans stem from Europeans, but they are culturally different as everyone knows. The important difference is religion:
Europe has been dominated by two antisemitic religions, Catholicism and Lutheranism (have you never heard of all the antisemitic propaganda produced by Luther???). Whatever the rights of the Jews on the land of Israel, the Jews from Europe had to go back because their life had never been safe in Europe.
On the contrary, most Americans are of the Evangelical, born=again Christian religion. They believe in the Jews and the restoration of the great Jewish Kingdom of Israel, with the border it had under King David, and its dominance on the Middle-East.
This is why, as I have said before, America is a country blessed by G-d.
And please refrain from antisemitic statements against the Jews or Israel (in Europe they would sentence you to jail for this).
Everyone knows that the Arabs want to kill us. Anyone who does not support Israel indirectly support the holocaust the Arabs want to commit.
This is worst than supporting Hitler (noone knew what he was doing, not even the Red Cross, so 99,99% of the Europeans fascists / German Nazis were much less antisemitic, even they didn’t want to kill the Jews, except Hitler and his friends). So antizionism is the worst kind of antisemitism.

Peter: excellent very insightful comments, I appreciate very much your well reasoned and argumented points, much above the level of the leftists, liberals posting here. Thank you again Peter.

]]> By: Peter http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149389 Peter Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:00:45 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149389 Right now the best defense against terror are the CIA and the FBI. They know a lot about these kind of people. I met some CIA agents and officers in Vienna and Turkey. These US hidden warriors are widespreaded all over the globe - like islamic terrorists. Intelligences have experiences with different muslims in the Middle East and they actually killed or arrested some of these high ranking terrorists, who supported the 9/11 hijackers. Especially the old CIA agents, who travel to the Middle East since 20-30 years - they still have excellent connections to natives and some speak even Arabian. They are the real defense against terror. A watchlist is ok, but it is not a real defense, just 800.000 are reported - but 800 million muslims still exist - and this is a lot. The terrorists are definitely not silly - you remember to 9/11. Such muslims, which pray in the mosque and criticize the president, these are not the dangerous muslims. Do you remember, these guys, who captured the planes at 9/11, these hijackers from Saudi and Egypt were travelling even one year all around the States and nobody payed attention. They were dressed in nice suits, most of them spoke well English. Terror cells like the Al Qaida just order the most intelligent muslims for terror acts - they dont send such bone-heads to the States. Therefore people such the CIA officers - the hidden warriors - such CIA agents are able to stop also these good educated terrorists in their homeland. But a watchlist is not a perfect defense, just a few are described and reported. Peter Vienna Right now the best defense against terror are the CIA and the FBI. They know a lot about these kind of people. I met some CIA agents and officers in Vienna and Turkey. These US hidden warriors are widespreaded all over the globe – like islamic terrorists. Intelligences have experiences with different muslims in the Middle East and they actually killed or arrested some of these high ranking terrorists, who supported the 9/11 hijackers. Especially the old CIA agents, who travel to the Middle East since 20-30 years – they still have excellent connections to natives and some speak even Arabian. They are the real defense against terror.
A watchlist is ok, but it is not a real defense, just 800.000 are reported – but 800 million muslims still exist – and this is a lot. The terrorists are definitely not silly – you remember to 9/11. Such muslims, which pray in the mosque and criticize the president, these are not the dangerous muslims. Do you remember, these guys, who captured the planes at 9/11, these hijackers from Saudi and Egypt were travelling even one year all around the States and nobody payed attention. They were dressed in nice suits, most of them spoke well English. Terror cells like the Al Qaida just order the most intelligent muslims for terror acts – they dont send such bone-heads to the States. Therefore people such the CIA officers – the hidden warriors – such CIA agents are able to stop also these good educated terrorists in their homeland. But a watchlist is not a perfect defense, just a few are described and reported. Peter Vienna

]]> By: Peter http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx/comment-page-1#comment-99149387 Peter Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:54:12 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2008/02/29/thank-god-and-george-w-bush-for-the-watchlists.aspx#comment-99149387 Hi - a little history of islamic terror: Such terrorists appeared the first time in the late 60ies - just a few in Palestine. At the end of the 70ies Khomeini became the leader in Iran, terror cells became more all over the Middle East - he actually supported terror groups like the Hizbolla. The Sowjet Army occupited Afghanistan in December 79. CIA agents and arms dealers from the West supported the Mujahedeens in the war against the communism. Young men, called themself Jihadists, came from all over the islamic world to fight against the Red Army. One of this young fighters from Saudi Arabia was Osama Bin Laden. After almost 10 years of fight, the free West finally wons - the Sowjet Army had to leave Afghanistan in Feb. 89. CIA agents went back home to the States and celebrated the victory against the communism. Just a couple of months later the Sowjet Union and all European communist countries colapsed. The Jihadists - all these young men, who fought against the Sowjet Army called themself the Holy Warriors. The arch-enemy Communism was no more, but some islamic leaders proclaimed: "The USA is our real enemy!" Thousends of young Afghanistan jihadists, who originally came from all over the islamic countries, left Afghanistan and promised to commit terror acts all over America and Europe. But the real troublemakers, who are the responsible persons, are all these conservative islamic leaders, fundamentalists and islamic clerics, who hate the West. They are a very bed influence on the young generation in the Middle East. The young people believe them and many of them become terrorists or they support terror groups. Never before we had such a high number of islamic terrorists who hate the West and our democracy. I have been a couple of times in the Middle East and met some islamists. Some of them are definitely bone-heads, their idea or vision is quite simple. They decided to kill all non-muslims in Europe, America and Australia and they want to spread their conservative Islam all over the globe. "Because the world was made for muslims only!" - this is the bad influence of some old islamic clerics. I watch this fundamentalistic mainstream in the islamic world for a long time and it becomes more and more dangerous. Peter Vienna Hi – a little history of islamic terror: Such terrorists appeared the first time in the late 60ies – just a few in Palestine. At the end of the 70ies Khomeini became the leader in Iran, terror cells became more all over the Middle East – he actually supported terror groups like the Hizbolla.
The Sowjet Army occupited Afghanistan in December 79. CIA agents and arms dealers from the West supported the Mujahedeens in the war against the communism. Young men, called themself Jihadists, came from all over the islamic world to fight against the Red Army. One of this young fighters from Saudi Arabia was Osama Bin Laden. After almost 10 years of fight, the free West finally wons – the Sowjet Army had to leave Afghanistan in Feb. 89.
CIA agents went back home to the States and celebrated the victory against the communism. Just a couple of months later the Sowjet Union and all European communist countries colapsed.
The Jihadists – all these young men, who fought against the Sowjet Army called themself the Holy Warriors. The arch-enemy Communism was no more, but some islamic leaders proclaimed: “The USA is our real enemy!” Thousends of young Afghanistan jihadists, who originally came from all over the islamic countries, left Afghanistan and promised to commit terror acts all over America and Europe.
But the real troublemakers, who are the responsible persons, are all these conservative islamic leaders, fundamentalists and islamic clerics, who hate the West. They are a very bed influence on the young generation in the Middle East. The young people believe them and many of them become terrorists or they support terror groups.
Never before we had such a high number of islamic terrorists who hate the West and our democracy. I have been a couple of times in the Middle East and met some islamists. Some of them are definitely bone-heads, their idea or vision is quite simple. They decided to kill all non-muslims in Europe, America and Australia and they want to spread their conservative Islam all over the globe. “Because the world was made for muslims only!” – this is the bad influence of some old islamic clerics.
I watch this fundamentalistic mainstream in the islamic world for a long time and it becomes more and more dangerous.
Peter Vienna

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