Comments on: Rape? Or a justified response to provocation. http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation Join is in our new chat forum! Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:23:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Chrissiann http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99328730 Chrissiann Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:12:29 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99328730 Additionally to the individual who wrote this wild article... You can bet that a guy who has a one-night stand with a girl he found in a bar wearing "skimpy outfit" would be thrilled if she were to get an abortion if he got her pregnant. There is no way the vast majority of guys would want to be tied down like that. You don't know a lot of men out there, dude. Additionally to the individual who wrote this wild article… You can bet that a guy who has a one-night stand with a girl he found in a bar wearing “skimpy outfit” would be thrilled if she were to get an abortion if he got her pregnant. There is no way the vast majority of guys would want to be tied down like that. You don’t know a lot of men out there, dude.

]]> By: Chrissiann http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99328729 Chrissiann Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:06:17 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99328729 As much as people may dislike abortion, abortion and infanticide have always been with us and occur all over the world. Making it legal or illegal will not stop fetal and neonate deaths, as it as has been shown, newly born remains have been found tossed into rivers, off bridges, in dumpsters, on sides of roads, etc. In order to help this issue, there are laws to allow people to legally abandon a baby up to a certain time, so to avoid the child being killed as a neonate if the mother could not afford or obtain abortion legally. However, our foster system is currently overwhelmed with 500,000+ unwanted BORN children. And the foster child list grows since unwanted children are added to it annually. Making abortion illegal is never the answer as unwanted children will still be killed or packed away in foster homes. We need to stop unwanted pregnancy. That is the ONLY way to stop abortions and infanticide. Abstinence programs help as it encourages kids to have anal sex instead of vaginal; a female cannot get pregnant through anal sex, thus no abortion to follow. And I have sadly learned from many years of personal experience that Christians are the worst when it comes to premarital sex. They are also the worst when it comes to denying their behavior. Every church I have been in, and even Christian leaders. I could not take the lies and hypocrisy anymore, so I had to leave the nonsense. If you really care about children, ADOPT ADOPT ADOPT! Take them into your home and hearts. Take as many as you can. If you really care about children, care about the born ones -- as well as the unborn ones. As much as people may dislike abortion, abortion and infanticide have always been with us and occur all over the world. Making it legal or illegal will not stop fetal and neonate deaths, as it as has been shown, newly born remains have been found tossed into rivers, off bridges, in dumpsters, on sides of roads, etc. In order to help this issue, there are laws to allow people to legally abandon a baby up to a certain time, so to avoid the child being killed as a neonate if the mother could not afford or obtain abortion legally. However, our foster system is currently overwhelmed with 500,000+ unwanted BORN children. And the foster child list grows since unwanted children are added to it annually. Making abortion illegal is never the answer as unwanted children will still be killed or packed away in foster homes. We need to stop unwanted pregnancy. That is the ONLY way to stop abortions and infanticide. Abstinence programs help as it encourages kids to have anal sex instead of vaginal; a female cannot get pregnant through anal sex, thus no abortion to follow. And I have sadly learned from many years of personal experience that Christians are the worst when it comes to premarital sex. They are also the worst when it comes to denying their behavior. Every church I have been in, and even Christian leaders. I could not take the lies and hypocrisy anymore, so I had to leave the nonsense. If you really care about children, ADOPT ADOPT ADOPT! Take them into your home and hearts. Take as many as you can. If you really care about children, care about the born ones — as well as the unborn ones.

]]> By: Outraged http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99318363 Outraged Fri, 03 Dec 2010 08:59:40 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99318363 This is the most disgusting uneducated piece of crap I have ever read in my life! Classic victim blaming and something that has been widely written on. (You would know that if you bothered to read anything but your church pamphlet). You think that because some women dress a certain way, that justifies raping them. What you are really saying is that women do not have the same right to be in this culture as men. You want women to dress modestly out of fear of "encouraging" rape. (The academic term for that is sexual terrorism). When you say that they are asking for it, you are basically saying that if they don't behave, men have a right to punish them. You first reprimand the woman for stepping out of her place before you ever condemn the guy who is doing the raping. You look at what the women supposedly did wrong before you would ever demonize the rapist. That you would actually be stupid enough to say that rape is not that big of a deal is amazing. Would you really be saying that if someone gangraped your mother or sister?! Would you tell her to get over it? So what if they violated her, made her feel less than human? So what if she is terrified to leave her house? So what if she is depressed and suicidal? So what if she feels worthless? You clealy have never spoken to a rape victim or even tried to comprehend what they are going through! It is one of the most inhumane acts in the world and any resonable person or government recognizes it as a severe crime against humanity. (But I'm sure you are smarter than all them, right?) Say what you want about abortion but, unlike a fetus, a grown woman feels emotion! THAT is the worse part of rape; the psychological aftermath. (Something which you have obviously never bothered studying). You are a sorry excuse for a human being and you are NOT the Christian you think you are. You CANNOT truly follow God's teachings while you feel such little compassion for the humans that are living on this Earth! (Ie: not a bunch of cells). Do you really think Jesus would say that women ask to be raped?! If you do, you know NOTHING about the religion you supposedly believe in. Great, you care about a fetus, but it all goes to shit because afterwards when these people actually out in the world, you clearly don't give a crap about them. Christian my ass. Anyone who says rape is something women want is clearly disturbed and needs help. I feel sorry for you. Also assholes, sexual violence often occurs within the female's home. In other words, it has nothing to do with what she is wearing. It is because she lives in the same house of someone who thinks it is ok to rape. Stupid, sexist ignorant fuckers. I'm assuming that you guys would never say that about a boy being raped. Do they ask for it too? Your argument is clearly deeply rooted in sexism. Comments like, “Well why was she out by herself?” or, “How could she trust him?" are often made without hesitation. Yet, if these degenerates would only stop to think I hope they would realize that that kind of attitude just creates a culturally safe space for perpetrators to act while chastising the victims and making it more difficult for them to seek help for fear of judgment and thus, actually continuing the cycle! Also, to anybody who agrees with this fucked up blog - I am assuming that you all allow your daughters to walk around in the middle of the night by herself then, right? After all, if a woman is not dressed slutty then she has nothing to worry about, right? She can go anywhere and do anything because no one would rape a female who was not asking for it. Thus, since your daughters are behaving properly, there's no reason for her to have restrictions. No one would rape your daughter because she is not a slut. I'm sure you don't even worry about her safety. Right? This is the most disgusting uneducated piece of crap I have ever read in my life! Classic victim blaming and something that has been widely written on. (You would know that if you bothered to read anything but your church pamphlet). You think that because some women dress a certain way, that justifies raping them. What you are really saying is that women do not have the same right to be in this culture as men. You want women to dress modestly out of fear of “encouraging” rape. (The academic term for that is sexual terrorism). When you say that they are asking for it, you are basically saying that if they don’t behave, men have a right to punish them. You first reprimand the woman for stepping out of her place before you ever condemn the guy who is doing the raping. You look at what the women supposedly did wrong before you would ever demonize the rapist. That you would actually be stupid enough to say that rape is not that big of a deal is amazing. Would you really be saying that if someone gangraped your mother or sister?! Would you tell her to get over it? So what if they violated her, made her feel less than human? So what if she is terrified to leave her house? So what if she is depressed and suicidal? So what if she feels worthless? You clealy have never spoken to a rape victim or even tried to comprehend what they are going through! It is one of the most inhumane acts in the world and any resonable person or government recognizes it as a severe crime against humanity. (But I’m sure you are smarter than all them, right?) Say what you want about abortion but, unlike a fetus, a grown woman feels emotion! THAT is the worse part of rape; the psychological aftermath. (Something which you have obviously never bothered studying). You are a sorry excuse for a human being and you are NOT the Christian you think you are. You CANNOT truly follow God’s teachings while you feel such little compassion for the humans that are living on this Earth! (Ie: not a bunch of cells). Do you really think Jesus would say that women ask to be raped?! If you do, you know NOTHING about the religion you supposedly believe in. Great, you care about a fetus, but it all goes to shit because afterwards when these people actually out in the world, you clearly don’t give a crap about them. Christian my ass. Anyone who says rape is something women want is clearly disturbed and needs help. I feel sorry for you. Also assholes, sexual violence often occurs within the female’s home. In other words, it has nothing to do with what she is wearing. It is because she lives in the same house of someone who thinks it is ok to rape. Stupid, sexist ignorant fuckers. I’m assuming that you guys would never say that about a boy being raped. Do they ask for it too? Your argument is clearly deeply rooted in sexism. Comments like, “Well why was she out by herself?” or, “How could she trust him?” are often made without hesitation. Yet, if these degenerates would only stop to think I hope they would realize that that kind of attitude just creates a culturally safe space for perpetrators to act while chastising the victims and making it more difficult for them to seek help for fear of judgment and thus, actually continuing the cycle! Also, to anybody who agrees with this fucked up blog – I am assuming that you all allow your daughters to walk around in the middle of the night by herself then, right? After all, if a woman is not dressed slutty then she has nothing to worry about, right? She can go anywhere and do anything because no one would rape a female who was not asking for it. Thus, since your daughters are behaving properly, there’s no reason for her to have restrictions. No one would rape your daughter because she is not a slut. I’m sure you don’t even worry about her safety. Right?

]]> By: sergio http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99311481 sergio Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:37:08 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99311481 YOUR ATTITUDE IS STUPID, YOU BASICALLY DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU ARE SAYING THAT AFTER ALL, WOMEN THEMSELVES ARE SOMEHOW WANTING THEM RAPED, JUST BECAUSE THE WAY THEY 'ACT' OR THEY 'DRESS' WHAT DO YOU WEAR WHEN YOU GO OUT A MONK SUIT? SO THE NEXT TIME I SEE YOU WEARING SHORTS WHICH LET THE OTHERS SEE YOUR LEGS I WOULD RAPE YOUR ASS JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ASKING FOR IT. OF COURSE ITS SHAME, BUT ON YOU, AND I THINK THAT MOST OF PEOPLE HERE AGREE WITH THIS POINT OF VIEW RATHER THAN WITH YOURS. SINCERELY SHUT THE F*CK UP IF YOU ARE GOING TO TALK THIS CR*P YOUR ATTITUDE IS STUPID, YOU BASICALLY DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU ARE SAYING THAT AFTER ALL, WOMEN THEMSELVES ARE SOMEHOW WANTING THEM RAPED, JUST BECAUSE THE WAY THEY ‘ACT’ OR THEY ‘DRESS’

WHAT DO YOU WEAR WHEN YOU GO OUT A MONK SUIT?

SO THE NEXT TIME I SEE YOU WEARING SHORTS WHICH LET THE OTHERS SEE YOUR LEGS I WOULD RAPE YOUR ASS JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ASKING FOR IT.

OF COURSE ITS SHAME, BUT ON YOU, AND I THINK THAT MOST OF PEOPLE HERE AGREE WITH THIS POINT OF VIEW RATHER THAN WITH YOURS.

SINCERELY SHUT THE F*CK UP IF YOU ARE GOING TO TALK THIS CR*P

]]> By: lula http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99311050 lula Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:31:57 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99311050 All of you are sick!!! Jesus doesn´t even exists! Everybody have the right to dress wherever they like. All of you are sick!!! Jesus doesn´t even exists! Everybody have the right to dress wherever they like.

]]> By: janelle http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99302612 janelle Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:46:18 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99302612 so, i just stumbled upon this website and there's a few things i'd like to say. First off, being a woman, it was absolutely appalling to hear people basically condone rape. That's down right disgusting. It's that simple. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY should be put thru such a horrible traumatic event. Woman aren't the only ones who suffer from it. Young boys don't dress in skanky clothing, but yet, they get raped everyday. A person who believes it's okay to force any type of sexual act on someone, is not only a DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN SPECIES, but they do not care what you're wearing or how you act. All they want is the control. Secondly, saying that someone "asked for it", is indescribably horrific. A friend of mine was raped multiple times by her own grandfather. Now, do you think an 8 year old had sex on her mind? DOUBTFUL, you pricks. Now, do you think even if she wanted sex for some strange reason in 2nd grade, do you think she wanted it from her grandfather?? DOUBTFUL, you pricks. She is almost nineteen now, like myself. That's almost ELEVEN YEARS LATER, and she is STILL traumatized from this. It makes it hard for her to trust people, trust her self, and you can COMPLETELY rule out her sex life. It's too scary for her at times. She gets involved with asshole guys her treat her like an object, because at 8 YEARS old, she was an object to a disgusting excuse for a man. Much like the people who condone such a thing. Thirdly, say her grandfather impregnated her, if she were a couple years older, should she be forced to keep the incest baby? I for one think not. Especially with all the risks such a baby could have. Also, I hate to say it, but there are thousands, probably millions of unwanted children in this world. Most probably wish they were dead because their circumstances are so bad. And if a mother were to have a baby from a bastard that forced himself upon her, should she explain why daddy isn't in their lives? Or now should we force that woman and child to have that inhumane person to be in their lives? I mean, if he can force sex and reproduction upon her, can he now force a relationship with that woman and child? And if so, can he beat them too? Or rape his daughter? Can he murder them if he feels like it? I THINK NOT. Honestly, I can't even believe this is a discussion. It should be obvious that its not right. For anyone, in any situation. If there is a hell, which NOBODY CAN PROVE, anyone who condones such things will go there. And if there was a God, which NOBODY CAN PROVE, I'm sure that he would want us to be kind, respectful, caring, and generous. He would want us to conserve the Earth because it's our home. He would want us to be happy. And I HIGHLY DOUBT he would want us to rape or cause any pain towards one another. I DARE ANYONE TO DISAGREE. Even you bible-followers. Use the brain "God" gave you. What would Jesus do? That's what you say. right? Would Jesus brutally rape someone because their legs are showing? so, i just stumbled upon this website and there’s a few things i’d like to say.

First off, being a woman, it was absolutely appalling to hear people basically condone rape. That’s down right disgusting. It’s that simple. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY should be put thru such a horrible traumatic event. Woman aren’t the only ones who suffer from it. Young boys don’t dress in skanky clothing, but yet, they get raped everyday. A person who believes it’s okay to force any type of sexual act on someone, is not only a DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN SPECIES, but they do not care what you’re wearing or how you act. All they want is the control.

Secondly, saying that someone “asked for it”, is indescribably horrific. A friend of mine was raped multiple times by her own grandfather. Now, do you think an 8 year old had sex on her mind? DOUBTFUL, you pricks. Now, do you think even if she wanted sex for some strange reason in 2nd grade, do you think she wanted it from her grandfather?? DOUBTFUL, you pricks. She is almost nineteen now, like myself. That’s almost ELEVEN YEARS LATER, and she is STILL traumatized from this. It makes it hard for her to trust people, trust her self, and you can COMPLETELY rule out her sex life. It’s too scary for her at times. She gets involved with asshole guys her treat her like an object, because at 8 YEARS old, she was an object to a disgusting excuse for a man. Much like the people who condone such a thing.

Thirdly, say her grandfather impregnated her, if she were a couple years older, should she be forced to keep the incest baby? I for one think not. Especially with all the risks such a baby could have.

Also, I hate to say it, but there are thousands, probably millions of unwanted children in this world. Most probably wish they were dead because their circumstances are so bad. And if a mother were to have a baby from a bastard that forced himself upon her, should she explain why daddy isn’t in their lives? Or now should we force that woman and child to have that inhumane person to be in their lives? I mean, if he can force sex and reproduction upon her, can he now force a relationship with that woman and child? And if so, can he beat them too? Or rape his daughter? Can he murder them if he feels like it? I THINK NOT.

Honestly, I can’t even believe this is a discussion. It should be obvious that its not right. For anyone, in any situation.

If there is a hell, which NOBODY CAN PROVE, anyone who condones such things will go there. And if there was a God, which NOBODY CAN PROVE, I’m sure that he would want us to be kind, respectful, caring, and generous. He would want us to conserve the Earth because it’s our home. He would want us to be happy. And I HIGHLY DOUBT he would want us to rape or cause any pain towards one another.

I DARE ANYONE TO DISAGREE.

Even you bible-followers. Use the brain “God” gave you. What would Jesus do? That’s what you say. right? Would Jesus brutally rape someone because their legs are showing?

]]> By: Link48010 http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99301584 Link48010 Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:11:15 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99301584 Then shut your ass up before you go talking. The only way someone as bitchy as you could get laid would be to get raped. Your standards are so low, you try to justify rapists, but you hate Bill Clinton because he boinked a girl for the same reason, amazing how that double standard works. Then shut your ass up before you go talking. The only way someone as bitchy as you could get laid would be to get raped. Your standards are so low, you try to justify rapists, but you hate Bill Clinton because he boinked a girl for the same reason, amazing how that double standard works.

]]> By: Shelley Goodman http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99301561 Shelley Goodman Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:31:01 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99301561 Sorry, but I never dress like a slut. Shelley Sorry, but I never dress like a slut.

Shelley

]]> By: Link48010 http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99301559 Link48010 Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:13:02 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99301559 Well Shelley? Why don't you try it then? Go see if it's a myth and then come back and tell us your results (although you'd likely lie in any case.) Well Shelley? Why don’t you try it then? Go see if it’s a myth and then come back and tell us your results (although you’d likely lie in any case.)

]]> By: Shelley Goodman http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99301558 Shelley Goodman Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:11:57 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99301558 Amy You were one of them lolita types, probably.. who knows. Shelley Amy

You were one of them lolita types, probably.. who knows.

Shelley

]]> By: Shelley Goodman http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99301557 Shelley Goodman Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:11:07 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99301557 Steve Just shut up. Sam is right, rape is a myth. These dirty sluts wear clothes like that because they want it. Shelley Steve

Just shut up. Sam is right, rape is a myth. These dirty sluts wear clothes like that because they want it.

Shelley

]]> By: steve f http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99301554 steve f Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:03:01 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99301554 you are such a cunt how about you go get raped and then we'll see how much you "asked for it" fuck you, steve f. you are such a cunt

how about you go get raped and then we’ll see how much you “asked for it”

fuck you,

steve f.

]]> By: Amy http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx/comment-page-3#comment-99297787 Amy Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:45:52 +0000 http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/11/28/rape-or-a-justified-response-to-provocation.aspx#comment-99297787 I too was raped ar a 6 year old.... i gess i was asking for it?!?! sick fucks! I too was raped ar a 6 year old…. i gess i was asking for it?!?!
sick fucks!

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