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Friends,

One of the great things about the Internet is that it’s a great information resource for homeschoolers. There was a time when looking up information on the Internet was like being forced to attend a DNC rally in drag. The liberal bias was overwhelming and most sensible parents simply banned their children from using the Internet.

However these days things are different. Conservatives can find great information sources like Conservapedia that are free of Anti-American and Anti-Christian bias. And if you take a look on the right-hand column of our site and look under “Shelley’s Friends” you will see a carefully selected, hand-picked assortment of web-resources. Every one of these sites is guaranteed to be 100% pro-family.

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Liberals Must Die is a great resource for calm factual discussion about the threats that America faces such as terrorism, homosexuality and secularism.

We just added a new site to our list of friends today: Liberals Must Die – this web site tackles some of the most important social issues we as Americans face every day, such as terrorism, the erosion of our religious liberties and the threat that liberal secular culture poses to all of us. So please visit them today, and join together in thanks to Jesus that we patriots still have the right to speak God’s truth in the Land of the Free.

Like Shelley The Republican, Liberals Must Die gives you sober analysis of news and current affairs. For example this is what they say about an Egyptian blogger who has been imprisoned for the crime of insulting Islamofascism:

Why is it that a 3rd world country like Egypt, can be progressive enough to put Atheists in jail, but in 2007, and in the United States of America, the greatest country in the world, and the home of “one nation, under God”, we can’t do the same?

Well why the heck not? We at STR.com have always been in favor of compulsory re-education for the atheist minority who are ruining America. Liberals Must Die have the courage to go one step further.

Yours in Christ,

Tristan J. Shuddery

PS. One of our patriotic readers wrote in to remind me that Conservapedia does not yet have an article about the Linux threat. I’m sure one of our readers is already hearing the call of Jesus to write an article that every American will be proud of.

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  1. the truth March 2nd, 2007 4:12 AM

    You understand that you are supporting a website called liberals must die. If they, or you, actually believe that all liberals must die, that means you/they are in favor of genocide. So straight up, would you support a genocide “cleansing” the US of liberals?

  2. Ignacio March 2nd, 2007 4:53 AM

    There is one thing I don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t get, you call yourself a true “son of GOD” but you do not respect other peoples choices of beliefs. Every writer in this page is an extremist, mind-blinded dickhead that belives that your way of thinking is the truth and only way. All of you make comments about the situation in the world and the truth is that none of you have ever left th U.S.
    I have seen the world, I visited lots of third world countries, I have even kissed Jean Paul?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s ring, the reason why th U.S. (not America, America is a continent) is the 1st country in the world is beecause of your great war business, nothing more. U.S. will fall, Rome did.

    P.S: Shelley, I bet you dont have sex for over 30 years, no one can be that bitter!

  3. Tristan Shuddery March 2nd, 2007 4:58 AM

    You understand that you are supporting a website called liberals must die. If they, or you, actually believe that all liberals must die, that means you/they are in favor of genocide.

    If the site was called “Sinners must die” do you think anybody would complain, heck no because sinners WILL die, and that is what the BIBLE tells us. The editor of this site is just pointing out a logical extension to this idea. There is nothing wrong with eliminating liberals so that the majority of conservatives can go about our business without having our cherished beliefs constantly under threat.

  4. True Christian March 2nd, 2007 6:09 AM

    Here?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s a little something for you About Homosexuality, i know it?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s off topic, but there you go….

    What the New Testament Says About Homosexuality
    The following article was written by Deirdre Good who teaches New Testament at an Episcopal Seminary and is reprinted here with her kind permission.
    As anyone who has read any recent literature on the topic will be able to tell, there is no word for homosexuality in Greek or Hebrew so while the Bible condemns many things, what we call homosexuality isn’t one of them. First we have to define homosexuality. But that’s a digression. Let me leave that aside and turn to the texts.

    What does Romans 1 and I Cor 6:9 condemn? In the former case, idolatry. One of the behavioral consequences of idolatry is people who engage in same-sex relations by substituting the truth of God for a lie and who do things that are para physin (beyond nature). Romans 8 makes it clear that even while the pagan world of Romans 1-2 and the Jewish world of 3 falls under the judgment of God, nothing separates either from the love of God. I Cor 6:9 lists behaviors that will not enter the kingdom, including the Greek terms malakos and arsenokoites. When the term homosexuality was invented in the 19th Century, it appeared in some modern translations and replaced earlier translations relating the terms correctly to men e.g. tyndale for arsenokoites “abusers of themselyves with the mankynde.” Sometimes an attempt was made in modern translations to separate the act from the person, so for arsenokoites read “practicing homosexuals.” (This was at one time proposed for the NRSV).

    A way to get at the meaning of arsenokoites is to look at other contexts in which the Greek word appeared independently of Paul. These other occurrences (Sibylline Oracles 2.70-77, Acts of John; Theophilus of Antioch Ad Autolycum) suggest that the word refers to some kind of economic exploitation by means of sex (but not necessarily homosexual sex). Perhaps the more important question is why some scholars are certain the word refers to male-male sex in the face of evidence to the contrary. Perhaps ideology has been more important than philology!

    Malakos occurs widely in ancient sources and refers to the softness of expensive clothes, the richness of food, the gentleness of winds and breezes. The term refers to the effeminacy or softness of which penetration by another man is a sign or proof; it does not refer to the sexual act itself. In philosophical texts, the plural term malakoi are those who cannot put up with hard work. Xenophon uses the term for lazy men. In Josephus and Plutarch (both first century writers from different cultural backgrounds), cowards are malakoi.

    In the ancient world effeminacy was implicated in heterosexual acts just as much as homosexual. Chariton in his novel Chaeras and Callirhoe provides a typical portrait of an effeminate man: he has a fresh hairdo, is scented with perfume, he wears eye makeup, a soft (malakos) mantle, and light swishy slippers; his fingers glisten with rings. He is off to seduce a woman! Why, given all the ancient evidence, some of which I have mentioned here, was the translation “effeminate” for I Cor 6:9 rejected by Bible translations? Because it reinscribes the misogyny of the term? Because condemnation of something socially embarrassing could hardly be called the word of God?

    In short: the allegation that the New Testament condemns homosexuality is not just poor but lazy and inexcusable scholarship. An attempt by some scholars to interpret I Cor 6:9 by taking malakos to mean the passive partner and arsenokoites the active partner is based on circular reasoning. The meaning of arsenokoites is problematic. There is no evidence that malakos was ever considered as a technical term for a passive partner. (There are other terms for passive and active partner in Greek. They never appear in the NT) Malakos’ general meaning of effeminate is independent of sexual position or object. To define malakos arsenokoites is to define something already clear by something that is obscure.

    May I suggest some books? Brooten: Love Between Women; Nissinen, Homeroticism in the Biblical World. Also Dale Martin has an article on the two terms “Arsenokoites and Malakos: Meanings and Consequences” which I could send to anyone who asks in Biblical Ethics and Homosexuality ed. Brawley from which I took some of the above.

    Deirdre Good

    General Theological Seminary

  5. Ugg March 2nd, 2007 7:56 AM

    Tristan Shuddery interesting how you ignore comments like the one of Ignacio March and others on other articles.

    Just to say Liberals MUST die means you are not a true christain. Ever read the bible?

  6. Mean March 2nd, 2007 8:09 AM

    “There is one thing I don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t get, you call yourself a true ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?son of GOD?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? but you do not respect other peoples choices of beliefs.”

    It’s not a question off respecting an opinion. if you say that the world is flat we will inform you that you are wrong.

    Towelheads have some funky religion that denies the true god. Liberals have all kind off weird things they claim is true. They are also wrong.

    America is the greatest country in the world. That?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s not an opinion its a fact. What other country could god love more if not the greatest?

    Liberals is misinformed homos. That?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s also a fact not an opinion. The bible clearly states that homo sex is a sin. There is also lots of examples on what god dose to sinners. Just see what happened to Egypt when they refused to release mosses an his people.

  7. Marc March 2nd, 2007 9:08 AM

    Tristan, do you know anybody who didn’t die?
    Furthermore, you don’t want to have your “cherished beliefs” under threat. But what about the cherished beliefs of others? Is it OK to constantly threaten them?

  8. LiberalAssKicker March 2nd, 2007 10:20 AM

    Thanks for the kind words about my site!!

    I’ve been a reader of this site for a while, so it’s nice to see my site up here!

    It’s just sad that sites like ours are in the minority on the Internets. I keep hoping that God will unleash a few of his angels to destroy the liberals in a blue state city or something, so that people will wake up and realize that Jesus and the GOP are the only way to live, unless you want to risk eternal hell fire.

    Also, you may be interested to know about my sister site: http://www.OsamaLovesObama.com.

  9. Cut-Me-Own-Throat Weasel March 2nd, 2007 11:01 AM

    Wow, this seems just as full as baseless crap as the last time I visited it. No great suprise there.

    The real world farts on Tristan once more, then…

  10. Sam Johnston March 2nd, 2007 2:56 PM

    Thank you Tristan, for pointing out these sensible, mature and intelligent websites. And what a relief it is that the ‘rest of us’ finally get to have a say after so many years of the liberal elite controlling every media to the detriment of Jesus.

    I bet Al Gore didn’t think of that when he ‘invented the internet’. ROLTFL! ROLTFL!

  11. Proud german March 2nd, 2007 4:20 PM

    If the site was called ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Sinners must die?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? do you think anybody would complain, heck no because sinners WILL die, and that is what the BIBLE tells us. The editor of this site is just pointing out a logical extension to this idea. There is nothing wrong with eliminating liberals so that the majority of conservatives can go about our business without having our cherished beliefs constantly under threat.

    Actually I would protest against a site sinners must die. Heck, we are all sinners (and everybody telling me that he has not done a single sin in his life is just doing another one, lying!). And of course it?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s gods decision, not yours. Who are YOU to make a decision only god may take?

    The German Guy
    IMPEACH BUSH!

  12. Tristan Shuddery March 2nd, 2007 4:37 PM

    Tristan, do you know anybody who didn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t die?

    Yes, Jesus – I talk with him every day.

  13. gs March 2nd, 2007 9:05 PM

    right on tristan…i’m having a beer with jesus tonight!

  14. Danny Ditto March 3rd, 2007 9:33 AM

    “Compulsory re-education”? That doesn’t sound like conservatism,that sounds like Red China under Mao! LIBERALS MUST DIE does “sober analysis” and “calm factual discussion”? Yeah,right! That’s believable to neo-conned morons who are gullible enough to think Faux “News” is “fair and balanced”! They’re just social control propaganda like the Communist “News” Network except with the Neo-Nasties spin! The Re-Publican(the new tax and spend party) elite are destroying this nation along with the Democ-rat(the old warfare party) elite!

  15. Proud german March 3rd, 2007 10:35 AM

    Erm, Tristan? Did Jesus not die on that cross? Yeah, he came bac from death and stuff, but he DID die, no? So basically your answer is a lie. You should repent, man.

    (And visit a psychatrist, those hallucinations are bad.)

    The German Guy
    IMPEACH BUSH!

  16. good person (not like you) March 3rd, 2007 7:13 PM

    you call to this “freedoom blog”???
    what kind of moral is want other peple to die??
    i bet jesus would say “kill’em all!” right? i thought he was a “nice” guy…
    i bet george w. bush did not spend time and money making a documental about global warmin…
    NO, HE DID’N CAUSE HE WAS TOO BUSY BOMBING OTHER COUNTRIES
    Well, Al Gore did it.
    you are so hypocrats
    you make me feel sick

  17. Elvish In Chains March 3rd, 2007 8:36 PM

    If liberals had a website called CONSERVATIVES MUST DIE,the STR crew would be screaming “Terrorist threat! Call the FBI!” It’s like when Clinton was in office,Republicans bashed him verbally on his foreign policy repeatedly(as anyone should be able to about any President)but if anyone criticizes Bush’s foreign policy,Republicans hypocritically yell “Terrorist sympathizer!” and do everything they can to silence said critics! I thought liberals were bad enough with their “politically correct” speech codes but neo-conservatives are just as bad if not worse with their “patriotically correct” and “religiously correct” speech codes!

  18. Holton Chook March 4th, 2007 12:48 PM

    Son, if sinners repent they dont die they go to paradise along with all the good folk. Even if they have been homos and such like my littlst daughter. That is GODS MESSAGE!!!

    I dont see no Liberls doing no repentin do y’ll???

    Hey True Christian! Try speakin AMERICAN and mebbe folks can understand!!!

    Bless you anyways

    Holton

  19. I_Rape_Necons March 5th, 2007 10:46 AM

    You idiots don’t even realize that LMD is satire. You are being mocked so flagrantly and I am starting to think that this god-humping site is also satirical. Good luck with that.

  20. Caroline March 24th, 2007 10:46 AM

    Dear Sir/Ma’am;

    Jesus NEVER said ANYTHING about homosexuality, and Jesus did not exercise genocide, he ate with the sinners.

    Caroline

  21. Melf June 17th, 2008 1:41 AM

    Just because your ideas are going out of style doesn’t mean you have to live a life of embarrassment and without dignity.

  22. Sarah Berry October 6th, 2008 8:55 PM

    Wow…. there really are completely ignorant moronic idiots in this world:) First of all fideism is unintelligent, the bible was not meant to be taken literally word for word. I bet you people who say liberals must die probably didn’t finish high school and were severely abused by your parents as children. Jesus was born in Jerusalem and was not what you would call WHITE. Are you stupid???? Your not even an intelligent conservative, true intelligent conservatives would not even speak as unintelligently as you did. Second the Native American people were in this country first and Mexicans whom the website seems to bash are part native american. You obviously don’t know a thing about Mexicans to be saying such ignorant things about them. Like I said that website made me laugh because I just imagined that you must be a really ugly, sexually incompetent, short, lack of education, missing teeth, pedophile, little dissatisfied man. Or you are rich, really fat, need to take viagra to get your little manhood up, and wonder why you were such a social loser your whole life. If someone was dumb enough to marry you then I am sure they humped your best friend or many others to make up for your obvious lack of stealth. Orrrr you are homosexual yourself and bash other homosexuals because you want to keep telling yourself that you really are straight, did I get it yet?? People only hate others because of their own insecurities, I think I got it…. Your gay. Well because I see nothing wrong with homosexuality then I’ll still love you:) You must really hate yourself to be bashing so many people. I am guessing my imagination was correct. Sorry that your mother or father hated you sooo much that you became such a waste of oxygen. Go and get yourself a life, happy trails to you :) Your website is great for a laugh!!

  23. Sara Carter October 7th, 2008 4:01 AM

    that was beautiful Sarah Berry bravo.:D

  24. Mike November 6th, 2008 3:14 AM

    AHAHAHAHAHAhAHA…Liberalsmustdie.com is a joke site making fun of the ignorant, historically regressive ideology you dip shit conservatives hold so dear. I bet you think Steven Colbert is really a conservative too. How about you open a book every once in a while and educate yourselves on the complexities of this world instead of keeping yourselves retarded. You dumb fucking conservative republicans piss me off. I can’t believe you can vote!!!!

    And how do you have the balls to end your post “yours in Christ.” You are obviously not a true Christian because Jesus would love Liberals and not want them to die. In fact, I don’t understand how so called Christians leach on to conservative ideology when in fact liberalism in inherently more “Christ Like” (i.e. Liberals preach “love thy neighbor as you love yourself”) – this includes: blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Europeans, Eskimos, Canadians, Homosexuals, Indians (both kinds), Jamaicans, Hippies, Pirates, and everyone else on this fucking tiny ass planet…Jesus preached not to judge, not to hate, just to love. Sounds pretty freaking Liberal, huh? While the conservative base preaches hate of anyone who doesn’t look or think like them. Very none Christian like if I do say so myself. Oh yeah, we now have a black president. Get the fuck over it…

  25. Pete December 3rd, 2008 2:46 AM

    Satirical?
    No I really do mean it, if given a chance I’d wipe all you liberals off the face the map…..in a new york minute. So keep it up, keep pissing us off and we may get our wish. I hate you liberals scumbag, abortion loving liberals with every fiber of my being and yes I
    d love to hang you all from the tree of death. How ju like that? Jerks. So get on here and respond with your college educated brainwashed self and tell me how much of a bible thumping neo-con that I am, but always remember that I wish death upon your ass every second. I’ve declared war against you bitches.

  26. MEB January 11th, 2009 2:25 PM

    Psalms God says how He HATES the iniquitors. This would include homosexuals. Not to mention Sodom AND Gomorrah were both destroyed because of homosexuals, including the band of homosexuals who wanted to rape the Angel sent to warn Lot to leave.

    Funny how liberals constantly misquote the Bible in order to try and mix truth with lie. Which is a known tool of satan since the old days.

    The liberals will work harder to try and justify their evils then to just live a good moral life.

    As for the liberals who love to again misquote by accusing others of not being a good Christian because they wish death or dieing, have you forgotten how Charlemagne protected your European forefathers from attacks?

    How about King Otto of Germany defending the entire continent of Europe who was under sever Magyar attack?

    Or even the Christian Chechz who fought the turks keeping them out of Europe so your forefathers could reproduce and so on until you were born?

    Lets not forget the Visigoths and Flavious of Rome ‘both Christian’ who united to defeat the massive pagan Hun attacks of Attila.

    Before any liberals try and misquote me, I never made mention of the Crusades. Only legit threats to your ancestors.

    Liberals are at best pathetic and discredit their entire ancestral heritage. Just because liberals want to wallow in self destruction, they have no right to enforce their self hatred on us, which they constantly do.

    Such as with Freedom of Speech. Ironic how libtards cry and scream to have a voice, but once they have it through Freedom of Speech, they cry even louder when someone else uses Freedom of Speech that doesn’t coincide with their beliefs. Which is bluntly communism.

    Liberals are at best nothing more then narcissistic spoiled rotten children who are misguided and disillusioned.

    Actually, I have a very personal problem with libtards. Using my Freedom of Speech I have just as much right to say why I do as much as the liberals can flap their lips in the breeze.

    I have had many uncles serve in the Korean and Vietnam war. One of my uncles were not lucky enough to come home.

    He is missing. I have heard hippie communist libpigs arrogantly say how he would be justified by being in a rat filled swamp up to his neck as of today for his so called crimes.

    Crimes? Crimes because he fought willingly to preserve the Freedom of Speech those pigs pop out of their feces cannon basking away on some Myrtle Beach resort?

    Thats not the part that angers me. The part that angers me are those same communist pieces of s*** who say this about my uncle also cry and shed tears over the insurgents in the Gitmo prison getting three hots and a cot, along with air conditioning and cable TV.

    Heres my Freedom of Speech… liberals are best to stay silent around me in person, or you better have a good dental plan!

    However, do what all liberals do best… slander aimless words, oh, and make sure you use all CAP LETTERS as well, along with a reference about my mother or father and their consummating their marriage to be some zany retort referenced to me. Because we all know this really gives liberals vast amounts of credibility.

    And for the good hearted, American loving patriots on this blog, sorry to have vented, but just know another stands with you strongly!

  27. MEB January 11th, 2009 2:39 PM

    oh, and as for sarah berry, apparently you need to brush up on your history. Such as the French and Indian war, how the innocent indians raped and killed the white women AND children.

    Who was it…? Oh, I believe it was Pontiac who used the breast of a white woman as a tobacco pouch wasn’t it?

    Lets not forget Sitting Bull who single handedly wiped out the buffalo in canada during his exile from the US.

    Then there is cheif seattle who was proven to be nothing more then a drunk illiterate idiot who got fame by an egar english journalist who exploited his name for some fake story. ’see Skeptic Inq.’

    Now moving on the the mexicans with their history on up to today with their huge gang and drug gift offerings to the US, along with cheap labour which obviously dosn’t bother you sarah because apparently daddy buys you whatever your little flickering of a heart desires. Because your apparently a princess.

    We call this living in a soliptic narcisstic world of allophism.

    And more for you, and not forgetting that other liberal mike who claims to be a Theology major, you obviously seek a utopia, hence the word; Greek in origin. And this is a pity because the liberal mike claims to have such a vast knowledge of Greek, yet he cut his own throat with his own stupidity as all libtards do…

    Utopia is what liberals seek

    Greek: Utopia; a place or idea that dose not, nor will ever exist.

    Look it up oh ye Greek scholar :)

  28. Ben January 22nd, 2009 8:36 PM

    As a conservative I feel sorry that you people are this stupid. Liberalsmustdie is a satire site. It’s run by liberals that are so full of themselves that their warped perception of reality sets them on a mission in their sad, pathetic lives, to deceive the “everyman” into thinking that conservatism is a radical ideology.Duh!!!!

  29. park8iu March 14th, 2009 5:49 PM
  30. Jason June 9th, 2009 6:15 PM

    “Honestly, is there anything of major difference between Hitler and Obama?
    Other than the fact that he is black of course.”

    Oh yeah this site is a great even handed, not batshit crazy desperate for attention trolling site for morons to beg for attention.

  31. Satan June 24th, 2009 8:58 PM

    Fuck all you bible beaters. you side fucking LOST-
    get the fuck over it. I hope to piss off old ladies and shit on old men who try to stop me. Fuck your dead cult lies. your side fucking LOST because the rest of us want to move beyond your fucking redneck stupidity. fuck your bible- its a fucking lie. the world is 4.6 billion years old and abortion is a right. its sites like THIS that helped murder Dr Tiller. I can only hope some one does the same to you assholes. take your right to life shit and move to fucking iran you mother fuckers.

  32. Bizon December 30th, 2009 6:26 PM

    Sucktin, We don’t just get over it. Only queers like you get over it and start liking it up the ass. Conservative CHRISTIANS stand up and fight. We don’t buy all your queer homo satanic baby killing bullshit. I don’t believe in abortion but in your case I would of made an exception. Assclown!

  33. Bizon December 30th, 2009 6:36 PM

    I love to see all the Satanist talk about how Jesus thinks and feels. Such credibility that I’m dumbfounded. The problem with Liberals is they are constantly bashing us in the face with their Satanic (Evolution, Greenie Earth Mother, etc) religions and homosexual agendas. Then they tell our children that they are probably little homosexuals and they want to show them how much they will like it and rape them. Then they say it was mutual consent. Yeah Jesus loves you low lifes so very much…

  34. Jason December 31st, 2009 7:49 PM

    Bizon, just shut the Hell up. You’re an embarrassment to any dignified religion.
    God is the only being who can safely judge. Not your bigot ass.
    Stop using your religion as a shield to bolster your opinions.
    Christian conservatives have never thought for themselves, that’s the whole point of your belief system. You’re told what to believe and follow like good little sheep. Hell you even use that metaphor.

    Believe me, Jesus told you to turn the other cheek and judge not. However, Like all loud mouth hypocritical bible thumping pricks, you pick and choose what you want.

    How many traditional “conservative” republicans are out there fighting off the urge to fondle every little boy they see?

    How many priests are bending a choir boy over a pew right now? Apparently enough for the Vatican to set aside tons of cash to deal with them.

    No normal person is entirely lib or con. All the pussy hippies need to die and all the shitty neo con religious zealots need to die.

  35. Eric January 11th, 2010 7:32 PM

    Since obama and hillary have been sworn in they have done nothing but try to push health care reform. They are even cutting what medicare pays per dollar to hospitals to slowly force them to abide before they bankrupt and can help no one. This is the for front of the attack on our liberty’s and there wish to make us a socialist state controlled by few elite liberal democrats. They have no one’s best interest but there own. After the civil war the southern well all states lost there true freedom of land ownership. We pay for far to much, if you own land, house, or anything really what right do they have to interfere with that. It should be like the old days where if a “lawman” comes by your property and tells you when and where you can burn something(trash or brush,not what you were thinking)then you should be able to tell them to get the#$%& off your land and you will call them if you need them. This is because liberal democrats think so less of everyone that they feel the should monitor everything we do. WOW that is great freedom I’m sure that is what our founding fathers had in mind. This is from a non farm owning republican in pa not exactly what you pictured I’m sure. That felt great Have a great day!

  36. Eric January 11th, 2010 7:33 PM

    I didn’t mention biden for he is just a figure head for hillary

  37. Dan February 19th, 2010 12:21 AM

    Throwing athiests in jail is a prime example of exactly why Egypt is a third world country!

    Have you ever experienced dreamless sleep? Welcome to Heaven!

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