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		<title>By: helloyou</title>
		<link>http://ShelleyTheRepublican.com/2006/11/14/ancient-greece-cradle-of-perversion.aspx/comment-page-4#comment-99327376</link>
		<dc:creator>helloyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 22:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sadly people like you (seeing pervert and christ everywhere) are also interested in sex.....

If not... people like you would disappeared....

If god create all things on earth! why doesn&#039;t he create pleasure, joy, sex, homosexual etc....

You play the good prude thinker but I am sure that in private you are like every other human being on earth and like they have been all of them in the past!!

Don&#039;t forget that the roman empire had quite the same sexual liberty... as celtic too... 2500 years ago....
so...  we are all children of pervert? gays? pederast?

Don&#039;t you think it&#039;s better to enjoy life instead of insult people dead thousand years ago... just because your religion invented by some human decided to burn for posterity all things they were not able to explain or understand?

What&#039;s the LOVE of god.... if it&#039;s for hate all you can&#039;t or you won&#039;t accept or understand?  Your &quot;LOVE&quot; is swimming and sinking in the middle of your ignorance and hate....

Hope your god will bless you for that.... ?!

PS:  I like very much the face of christ hiding statue&#039;s sex....  very elegant and respectful for your lovely god.... ;-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sadly people like you (seeing pervert and christ everywhere) are also interested in sex&#8230;..</p>
<p>If not&#8230; people like you would disappeared&#8230;.</p>
<p>If god create all things on earth! why doesn&#8217;t he create pleasure, joy, sex, homosexual etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>You play the good prude thinker but I am sure that in private you are like every other human being on earth and like they have been all of them in the past!!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that the roman empire had quite the same sexual liberty&#8230; as celtic too&#8230; 2500 years ago&#8230;.<br />
so&#8230;  we are all children of pervert? gays? pederast?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s better to enjoy life instead of insult people dead thousand years ago&#8230; just because your religion invented by some human decided to burn for posterity all things they were not able to explain or understand?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the LOVE of god&#8230;. if it&#8217;s for hate all you can&#8217;t or you won&#8217;t accept or understand?  Your &#8220;LOVE&#8221; is swimming and sinking in the middle of your ignorance and hate&#8230;.</p>
<p>Hope your god will bless you for that&#8230;. ?!</p>
<p>PS:  I like very much the face of christ hiding statue&#8217;s sex&#8230;.  very elegant and respectful for your lovely god&#8230;. ;-/</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 06:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely you&#039;re not actually the foul, ignorant creature that this article implies. This is a parody, isn&#039;t it? The Greeks had the most beautiful culture the world has ever known -- one that was far more beautiful than your stuck up, Southern shit. The idiot who gave you access to the internet should be shot. It&#039;s loud and uncultured prudes like you that give Americans a bad name. You should be ashamed of yourself. Go read a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you&#8217;re not actually the foul, ignorant creature that this article implies. This is a parody, isn&#8217;t it? The Greeks had the most beautiful culture the world has ever known &#8212; one that was far more beautiful than your stuck up, Southern shit. The idiot who gave you access to the internet should be shot. It&#8217;s loud and uncultured prudes like you that give Americans a bad name. You should be ashamed of yourself. Go read a book.</p>
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		<title>By: Els</title>
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		<dc:creator>Els</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greece is beautiful, culture is beautiful, sex is beautiful - If you don&#039;t agree with that then go bury your head in the sand and don&#039;t come up for air.
The language you&#039;re speaking is pieced together with parts of Greek, the maths you use is perfected by the Greeks. 
You create a bad impression of Americans... The stereotypical, xenophobic, sheltered type who makes judgements of other countries with a lack of proper education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greece is beautiful, culture is beautiful, sex is beautiful &#8211; If you don&#8217;t agree with that then go bury your head in the sand and don&#8217;t come up for air.<br />
The language you&#8217;re speaking is pieced together with parts of Greek, the maths you use is perfected by the Greeks.<br />
You create a bad impression of Americans&#8230; The stereotypical, xenophobic, sheltered type who makes judgements of other countries with a lack of proper education.</p>
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		<title>By: Laucen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laucen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was searching for some information on some ancient Greek culture and myths and I came across this blog. I know it&#039;s old but I still feel the need to leave my impression on what I took from this.

I am an American, I am Christian and I am gay, and I try my best to be tolerant of everyone. This garbage that gets spouted by someone who reads some books and interprets everything in the way that they want to see it. Then turn it all into some bigoted and hateful message that supposedly all the worlds worst aspects come from some ancient culture which you know very little of and have not in any way tried to understand it... well it doesn&#039;t make me ashamed to be an American it does make me feel upset that people like you can spread your ideas like some disease to people who genuinely want to learn and better themselves with knowledge and understanding of different cultures and history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was searching for some information on some ancient Greek culture and myths and I came across this blog. I know it&#8217;s old but I still feel the need to leave my impression on what I took from this.</p>
<p>I am an American, I am Christian and I am gay, and I try my best to be tolerant of everyone. This garbage that gets spouted by someone who reads some books and interprets everything in the way that they want to see it. Then turn it all into some bigoted and hateful message that supposedly all the worlds worst aspects come from some ancient culture which you know very little of and have not in any way tried to understand it&#8230; well it doesn&#8217;t make me ashamed to be an American it does make me feel upset that people like you can spread your ideas like some disease to people who genuinely want to learn and better themselves with knowledge and understanding of different cultures and history.</p>
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		<title>By: andr</title>
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		<dc:creator>andr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from Greece and that thing with the penis has nothing to do with Jesus. Believe me some Greeks can be as zealous with religion as you are. Maybe more. You are talking about things you dont know and that is obvious. Therefore I can&#039;t believe that you blaming the Greeks for INVENTING homosexuality. Its not an invention, and it would existed anyway because is something you have in your nature.(Also I can&#039;t believe that you put David of Michelangelo as a Greek statue)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from Greece and that thing with the penis has nothing to do with Jesus. Believe me some Greeks can be as zealous with religion as you are. Maybe more. You are talking about things you dont know and that is obvious. Therefore I can&#8217;t believe that you blaming the Greeks for INVENTING homosexuality. Its not an invention, and it would existed anyway because is something you have in your nature.(Also I can&#8217;t believe that you put David of Michelangelo as a Greek statue)</p>
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		<title>By: Oh my!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh my!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i forgot one thing - the reason for nude males in Greek art is purely for an aesthetic reason. 

The nude, as an art form, has changed dramatically over the centuries - and currently is considered female, with the viewer being male. However in ancient Greece, the male was the more appreciated form. Any ancient greek nude females are usually mythic examples or courtesans - and one of the first examples of the nude female statue was the Knidian Aphrodite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i forgot one thing &#8211; the reason for nude males in Greek art is purely for an aesthetic reason. </p>
<p>The nude, as an art form, has changed dramatically over the centuries &#8211; and currently is considered female, with the viewer being male. However in ancient Greece, the male was the more appreciated form. Any ancient greek nude females are usually mythic examples or courtesans &#8211; and one of the first examples of the nude female statue was the Knidian Aphrodite!</p>
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		<title>By: Oh my!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh my!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually never feel the need to reply to threads such as these - finding it usually a waste of my time, however i think you caught me on a bad day!

Having read your blog - i can honestly say i feel disgusted by what you have written. And before you preach the moral high-ground - i am a Christian, a Greek, and studying a Masters in Classics - so i am quite capable of storming the gates, so to speak!

I am very, very interested as to where you get your facts, which books etc - any historian knows that crediting your information is imperative! 

As a Christian, and a practising one, and a Greek i feel ashamed that you feel justified in saying such things about a country you clearly do not understand. I would like to point out that the icon you have used is a Byzantine one (wikipedia it - as i&#039;m pretty sure thats where you get your information from)! I should also point out that Greece was the first, or one of the first, countries to spread the word of God - America did not exist! 

Greece has been responsible for a great many good things - the birth of the artistic movement, carried on by the Renaissance, and highlighted by the White House itself as post classical architecture.
- a democratic system of ruling 
- literacy
- numerical calculations still used today
- philosophy - many that are parallel to what the Christian fathers themselves say

The list continues - next time you decide to post something like this - think very carefully about what you write. Just because you come from America, the so-called &#039;great&#039; nation does not give you the right to express ignorant opinions, that are hurtful and spiteful! Being Christian does not excuse you either!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually never feel the need to reply to threads such as these &#8211; finding it usually a waste of my time, however i think you caught me on a bad day!</p>
<p>Having read your blog &#8211; i can honestly say i feel disgusted by what you have written. And before you preach the moral high-ground &#8211; i am a Christian, a Greek, and studying a Masters in Classics &#8211; so i am quite capable of storming the gates, so to speak!</p>
<p>I am very, very interested as to where you get your facts, which books etc &#8211; any historian knows that crediting your information is imperative! </p>
<p>As a Christian, and a practising one, and a Greek i feel ashamed that you feel justified in saying such things about a country you clearly do not understand. I would like to point out that the icon you have used is a Byzantine one (wikipedia it &#8211; as i&#8217;m pretty sure thats where you get your information from)! I should also point out that Greece was the first, or one of the first, countries to spread the word of God &#8211; America did not exist! </p>
<p>Greece has been responsible for a great many good things &#8211; the birth of the artistic movement, carried on by the Renaissance, and highlighted by the White House itself as post classical architecture.<br />
- a democratic system of ruling<br />
- literacy<br />
- numerical calculations still used today<br />
- philosophy &#8211; many that are parallel to what the Christian fathers themselves say</p>
<p>The list continues &#8211; next time you decide to post something like this &#8211; think very carefully about what you write. Just because you come from America, the so-called &#8216;great&#8217; nation does not give you the right to express ignorant opinions, that are hurtful and spiteful! Being Christian does not excuse you either!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah, 

So I was searching for some information on ancient greece and here i land on this strange, strange blog.

I have goto say, I dont think i have ever red so much missinformation, bigottory, ignorance and stupidity, EVER.

When I read utter waste of space like this and see other people even agreeing, I wonder what the hell is wrong with some of you americans.

Well it matters not, your a tool and the way you think, it seems to me your the kind of person that will never experience happiness in live, so much anger and missguidance, disgusting really.

Hope someone burns you as the witch you are ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, </p>
<p>So I was searching for some information on ancient greece and here i land on this strange, strange blog.</p>
<p>I have goto say, I dont think i have ever red so much missinformation, bigottory, ignorance and stupidity, EVER.</p>
<p>When I read utter waste of space like this and see other people even agreeing, I wonder what the hell is wrong with some of you americans.</p>
<p>Well it matters not, your a tool and the way you think, it seems to me your the kind of person that will never experience happiness in live, so much anger and missguidance, disgusting really.</p>
<p>Hope someone burns you as the witch you are ;)</p>
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		<title>By: wasting my time on retards</title>
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		<dc:creator>wasting my time on retards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pederastic relationships were dyadic mentorships. These mentorships were sanctioned by the state, and consecrated by the religious establishment.&quot;

The pot calling the kettle black!  Your religious mythology sanctions cannibalism in the form of the euchrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pederastic relationships were dyadic mentorships. These mentorships were sanctioned by the state, and consecrated by the religious establishment.&#8221;</p>
<p>The pot calling the kettle black!  Your religious mythology sanctions cannibalism in the form of the euchrist.</p>
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		<title>By: giotis</title>
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		<dc:creator>giotis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 13:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh oh! Whats up with Jesuss face in front of Davids dick? Subliminal OR WHAT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh oh! Whats up with Jesuss face in front of Davids dick? Subliminal OR WHAT?</p>
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		<title>By: giotis</title>
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		<dc:creator>giotis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In ancient times it was allowed for people to marry animals? The youth is holding a bag of nuts, probably a courting gift? The Persian and Peloponnesian wars were fought just in order to capture slaves who they forced to work on their fields and in their beds? Greeks still use little stone penisses during their masses commonly believed to signify the penis of Jesus?    Man your are too stupid EVEN FOR AN AMERICAN!!!!!! No wonder you dont understand why is it that YOUR MOTHER, YOUR WIFE, and YOUR SECRETARY go to GREECE every summer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In ancient times it was allowed for people to marry animals? The youth is holding a bag of nuts, probably a courting gift? The Persian and Peloponnesian wars were fought just in order to capture slaves who they forced to work on their fields and in their beds? Greeks still use little stone penisses during their masses commonly believed to signify the penis of Jesus?    Man your are too stupid EVEN FOR AN AMERICAN!!!!!! No wonder you dont understand why is it that YOUR MOTHER, YOUR WIFE, and YOUR SECRETARY go to GREECE every summer!</p>
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		<title>By: don albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>don albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 09:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more with George the Greek and the others that have dismissed this post for the absolutely bigoted and homophobic nonsense it is. Although I wouldn&#039;t put it as bluntly.

There are too many inaccuracies to mention, but suffice to say the prudish attitude and censorship of the images is frankly, laughable...

The fact you have even bothered to do this with your time, is even more worrying.

Rather do some better research on the subject (preferably empirical) instead of an arbitrary trip to a museum followed by hasty-pasty photoshop work and your pathetically illogical &quot;conclusions&quot;. You should be ashamed of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with George the Greek and the others that have dismissed this post for the absolutely bigoted and homophobic nonsense it is. Although I wouldn&#8217;t put it as bluntly.</p>
<p>There are too many inaccuracies to mention, but suffice to say the prudish attitude and censorship of the images is frankly, laughable&#8230;</p>
<p>The fact you have even bothered to do this with your time, is even more worrying.</p>
<p>Rather do some better research on the subject (preferably empirical) instead of an arbitrary trip to a museum followed by hasty-pasty photoshop work and your pathetically illogical &#8220;conclusions&#8221;. You should be ashamed of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: George the Greek</title>
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		<dc:creator>George the Greek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its hard to even decide to comment on this atrocity of a blog. Saying you are uneducated, inaccurate, and worst of all a bigot is the largest understatement in the history of understatements. 
I would love to go through a list of every flaw in your thesis (may I call it that?), but a few others have covered them wonderfully. And quite frankly, such rubbish doesnt even deserve to be corrected. Thus Shelley, I merely will leave you with a string of insults.
Here goes: You are by far the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk this earth. Please dont vote...please dont procreate...actually...please dont talk anymore. I have a mentally handicapped Uncle beside me. And even HE just called you a retard (seriously...he did). 
You embarrased Christians, you embarrased Americans, and you embarrased yourself. 
You are worst than Hitler. 
Go fuck yourself.
I hope you choke.


P.S. - I&#039;m Greek...and I phoned Greece. They said they hate you and if you ever set foot in our country. You will be anally raped (The Greek way..of course) and never seen again.

Fuck your mother. You cunt.
xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its hard to even decide to comment on this atrocity of a blog. Saying you are uneducated, inaccurate, and worst of all a bigot is the largest understatement in the history of understatements.<br />
I would love to go through a list of every flaw in your thesis (may I call it that?), but a few others have covered them wonderfully. And quite frankly, such rubbish doesnt even deserve to be corrected. Thus Shelley, I merely will leave you with a string of insults.<br />
Here goes: You are by far the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk this earth. Please dont vote&#8230;please dont procreate&#8230;actually&#8230;please dont talk anymore. I have a mentally handicapped Uncle beside me. And even HE just called you a retard (seriously&#8230;he did).<br />
You embarrased Christians, you embarrased Americans, and you embarrased yourself.<br />
You are worst than Hitler.<br />
Go fuck yourself.<br />
I hope you choke.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; I&#8217;m Greek&#8230;and I phoned Greece. They said they hate you and if you ever set foot in our country. You will be anally raped (The Greek way..of course) and never seen again.</p>
<p>Fuck your mother. You cunt.<br />
xx</p>
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