Thought of the Day – 11 : How can Germans face the Mirror?
Today’s ‘Thought of the Day’ has been brought to you by our new guest writer JIMMY K. of Tucson, AZ
Hello STR readers!
I just recently watched the movie “Schindlers List” again.
Germans like to hunt, but only when they know they can win. They need to smell the fear, if you let them lick blood they show their blind hate for all mankind
Picture: Property of Universal Studios
In a quite upset state of mind I visited an AOL chatroom with many German users in order to talk about the movie with the actual offspring of the nazi killers. This is the chat transcript***:
JimmyK: Hi all, I just watched the movie Schindler’s List. Does anybody here know it?
Hansilein520: Jes, i know it. its very interesting but vull of lies.
JimmyK: What are the lies? It’s supposed to be very accurate.
Hansilein520: The jews have stolen from the germans. Most of the deserfed what they got.
HeissemiezeBerlin: Hast recht hansilein.
FrankBirne19: Heil Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JimmyK: Are you serious? I honestly don’t think so.
Hansilein520: What do you know about it ami?
JimmyK: Ami?
FrankBirne19: Scheiss auf das ami arschloch, hansi. ich finde hitler geil.
Hansilein520: You know what, we would have won the war. We were that close! Damn, Hitler should have waited with the attack on france. Just a little strategie error.
JimmyK: Does this mean you would have supported Hitler and you don’t regret what the nazis did to the Jews?
HeissemiezeBerlin: I cant speak for the others, but I hate the f*cking jews.
JimmyK: Wow. I am honestly shocked. I can’t believe what I am reading here!
Hansilein520: I am sorry but that is our opinion and we stand by it.
FrankBirne19: heee, now piss off amerikan! we piss on you and your amerika, we piss on everything ekzept GERMANY! DEUTSCHLAND, DEUTSCHLAND ?BER ALLES, ?BER ALLES IN DER WELT!!!!!
JimmyK: Thanks for the chat, I better leave now. I learned a lot today. Good day.
***The names of the AOL members have been slightly changed for legal reasons. The rest of the chat is exactly like it occured. Although I don’t speak German, a friend of mine translated the German texts and I can tell you, it’s very hateful stuff.
What do hell is wrong with you, Germans? You must feel very proud of yourself, right? You dare to accuse Shelley to be a racist??? You know what? I am a gay man, and I told Shelley right away and she said she does not like it, but she respects me as a human being, but you guys … I would have never mentioned it to you. You probably hate gays as much as you hate Jews.
Sorry to say, but in my opinion the Germany we know today has to end. Soon. You are like a timebomb. You inflamed the word twice already and you are going to do it again. I can feel it! Watch out, rest of the world, the world will be ending soon and Germans will be the cause.
Jimmy K.
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Yes, in these dangerous times it is important that America and Israel both remain a sober-couterbalance against the pro-terrorist nations. Germany may appear to be civilized, but beneath that bratvorst chomping exterior lies a poweder-keg of racism, violence and athiesm that threatens the entire world.
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Well, ‘Shindler’s List’ is full of lies. AFAIK, it wasn’t a valiant and selfless effort of rescuing the Jews, but Gestapo operation with the main goal of sucking money from abroad for ‘better conditions’ of imprisoned Jews and even their ‘runaway’. Just business, you know.
Anyway, it’s not too important. Hitler was crushed by military might, not by such ‘sabotage’ or pathetic (and quite overblown after the war) european ‘resistance’.
And about present Germans… if you stand by right to love whom you love, then you should stand by other’s right to hate whom he hates. Because it’s the same right.
Thought of the day: I have a bad experience in a chat with a guy who claims to be german. Conclusion: All the 83 millions of germans are racist, and bad people. Go on, guys, at least we have you to open our minds…
Seeing what was writtent here in other article I don’t know how you can criticize Hitler when you seems so alike…
Killing old people, poor people, destroying everything beside the US, make everything think as you think, I even wonder if you are not worse than him in some ways.
This Chatmessages are a fake. Why would any German, that hates the USA AND jews, use AOL?
The spelling is too obviously artificial. The sad thing is, it seems like an actual German helped you write that nonsense.
Also, since you found it so important to point out that you’re gay: compare gay rights in Germany and the US. ’nuff said.
Its scares me to think the most powerful nation on earth has right wing followers so naive and ignorant as to believe the views posted on this site!
str IS a racist blog, read her articles.
german ? nazi
buy a dictionnary
germany is not going inflame the world, contrary to USA, germany is a pacific country.
OMG, this chat quote seem to be a fake. There are spelling errors, which would not even a 10 years old german, who just started learning English, do.
Why? Why do you have to fake things, which every normal human can see, to proof your interests?
Even if the chat quote weren’t a fake, it just shows two people of 80.000.000! And there are racists all over the world, even in the USA! And btw, telling lies and wrong stories is what you do and what Hitler was doing too!
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This would be such a good blog, if you only could present your opinion in a neutral way and let people discuss about it. But for you, everything which doesn’t match in your point of view is wrong. That’s the biggest mistake a human can make. And yes, the Nazis did this mistake too!
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I am a 17 years old german and know the truth, but more important I know that rly not every amarican is like you are here.
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Jimmy K. I’d rly like to chat with you too! Is that possible?
ROFL. Have you ever heard of German antifa, shelley? Or do you filter all information through your star-spangled, opaque point of view?
Germany doesn’t scare me!
U-S-A!! U-S-A!! U-S-A!!!
This chatters really seemed to be germans, so it is not faked. But honestly, what chat did you join there? I can not believe this was a normal one. I bet you especially searched for a chatroom wich seemed to be right-winged.
Let me tell you, as a german, it is just a small minority who are Neo Nazis. In numbers, they are not more than racists in other countries. Please do not judge a whole nation just of some stupid racists.
I am 22 years old, lived my whole life in Germany and I have never met a Neo Nazi! Honestly!
Well that conversation is obviously fake. Do you really think Germans type with German accents?
Please read the text: “a friend of mine translated the German texts and I can tell you, it?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s very hateful stuff” – the translator obviously put in the accent to make it more realistic. Now what part of the American language do you not understand?
Uh oh. Teenagers. Quick, judge the entire population of Germany by them.
American language? I wonder if it’s different from African language.
Just another piece of BS to stir up people. I am sure these dudes are laughing their butts off about you guys, but dont worry pals…so do we about you.
Ummm…. Shelley, you REALLY need to STFU, ever heard of NASA?…GUESS who made it possible…oh, thats right, we had better GERMANS than the soviets….. ever hear of Oppenheimer?….hmmmm, the name sounds German to me, ever hear of Albert Einstein, sure he was a Jew, but as far as I can recollect, he was a “European” (You hate them too right?). AND let me add as a Sidenote, I take it you’re White? (probably “White Trash” would be more like it, but White nonetheless), ALL White people descend from european ancestry, so before you go talkin about everyone, I’m sure your gramma must’ve gotten knocked up by people who were at LEAST Partially german when she was turning tricks.
Yes, translated the German texts. Presumably the whole thing wasn’t in German and only the “Scheiss auf das ami arschloch, hansi. ich finde hitler geil.” was translated. So the “Germans” were typing in English and were writing with accents. But maybe they were being polite and writing with accents to make it more realistic. Regardless, I think the whole thing is funny, so keep up the good work.
and oh, btw, I’m glad to see that you are FINALLY running on Windows…can’t WAIT to see when your server gets hit by a worm, or virus, or even better…a DDoS
Germans are the best.
That?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s why the Pope is German.
What German says ‘Crap on the American @$$hole’? That’s obvisily made up. But that wouldn’t be to far away from your normal behavior, now would it?
is this serious???
what do u think???
I never got such a resonance in a chatroom.
the ppl would get banned in every moderated chat. So take ur complains to the operator…
Talphin where did u get ur figures?
83 mio? –> 82,4 mio
15 mio of that have an immigration background
6 of the 15 mio have no german passport.
http://www.destatis.de/presse/deutsch/pm2006/p1340025.htm
cant remember the film. but this doesent matter.
u cant tell such stories on the net its defenatly not obvius, it looks like su only see what u want to see.
Have u in mind that there may be guys out there which may take this word for word as truth ?
I am German and i think its a big satire whats postet here. But take care to declare it also as satire…
English language, fuck-head…
Evidently there are some people that are either clueless about anti-Semitism on the rise or they are simply refusing to believe what they read or hear. On paltalk , I have heard (not read) mostly the Muslims refer to Jews as “sons of pigs and monkeys”, “filthy” etc. Praising hitler, saying things as “hitler should have finished the job.” And “God bless hitler.” It used to shock me to hear this kind of speach, but to be honest, I expect it now. Best wishes.
Jeff Davis
Gee, I am really wondering why you are even writing for her, Jimmy K. Shelley hates gay people.
Well,
sadly there are a few (really a few) germans, who believe in hitler, but you can find those kind of people in every country (even in the USA).
Don’t judge a nation by some idiots from a chatroom, that woundn’t be fair.
I, as a German, feel sorry about my country’s history BUT I CAN’T CHANGE IT AND I’M NOT TO BLAME FOR IT!
The Germans must never forgett, but they should and they do look forward and so, you should do.
Happy to be German
Happy to live in Europe
Happy tp live in peace
I guess his friend translated the texts INTO German. It is obviously faked as the “??Ǭ?” is spelled in lower case without reason (twice) for example. Only someone who needs to add it manually would do it that way.
Amazing all the personal attacks on Jimmy K. and S.T.R, attack the ISSUE not the PERSON. Personal attacks are used when people have no logical argument to the topic of discussion. Denying that anti-Semitism exists is just as bad as anti-Semetism itself. And it’s not just a “Few” people around the world, for God sakes, the Muslims are spouting that same illogical argument as well.
I am tired of reading your antigerman sentiments for the fourth or fifth time. Admittably, your far-reaching insights into german mentality have left us somewhat dumbfounded as to the concealment of our plans: Total domination. Then again, we didn’t really try to hide it anyway. After all, your spineless leader probably gets freaked out when seeing mice in the kitchen (which, of course, his black servants will have to kill), so there’s no point for us in worrying about a pre-emptive attack that will never come. Go sit back in your chair, Untermensch, we are never far away. And one morning, when the doorbell rings, it will not be the milkman …
Gideon wrote:
“I am tired of reading your antigerman sentiments for the fourth or fifth time.”
She did not make you read it, you read it on your own. Any thoughts on the topic of Anti-Semitism in Germany? Or elsewhere? Shelley , I’m starting to get the drift that you have hit a nerve here. Instead of complaining about hating Jews, they seem to be angry that the cat is out of the bag, and some people can’t stand it. GREAT BLOG SHELLEY !
Jeff Davis
“And there are racists all over the world, even in the USA!”
Wrong! All USA is racist.
Just can’t wait that North Corea shot their Nuke at you, bastard.
@ TRISTAN SHUDDERY : Please tell us the name of the translator!!! No excuses! If not, we all know that its a fake. And we wanna try this strange translator to !
i’m seriously suspicious about that chat conversation, i think you made it up
but even if you didn’t, you can’t tell that all germans are neo nazis, just because you talked to 3 17 year old rebel wannabes.
There are a lot of neo nazis in america (most of them republicans), and that doesn’t mean all americans are nazis.
Germans today are not the same ones that killed the jews back in 1940, so don’t be such an asshole
Oh, the hatepost about Quana was deleted… how come ? It was such an admirable piece of scholar courage and contained so many valuable insights on the situation in the middle east…
Yes, they said all children killed there by the IAF were terrorist and deserve to die.
Nice crap, even when the IAF really know about them in the building.
hehe, it would be nice to hear Condi talking with the Israel prime minister “OMG you have fucked all off!! couldn’t you kill them in a small numbers? so much in a time is very embarrasing for us…”
Anyway, somebody remember about the UN watchers killed so they cannot report about the atrocities they were watching??
You!! Remember the USS Liberty!! remember all those 56 brave US sailors which were killed by the Israelian Air force, so they cannot listen to their plans to invade Egypt!!!
And anyway, you support them, just because they have money, and a lot of electors in USA
Pathetic…
Hey!
After reading the comments and the article itself, I was wondering if you don’t need another translator! It is allways more accurate, if you have more than one oppinion (in this case: translation). I would feel honouerd if I was chosen as translator ;)
No, serious, Shelley, you and your writers shouldn’t hesitate to ask me, I’ll love to translate your texts from German to English and French or whatever way arround..
Marc
You will have a really hard time to find any german who would even concider saying such a thing. What is wrong with you? Why do you try to incite people against germany by posting fake chat logs?
I have lived in germany for already 27 years and I never met anyone justifing what had happened about 60 years ago. There are prolly more nazi and racisit movements in the US of A than in germany. The germans learned from the mistake back then. Unfortunately the states that helped liberate nazi germany didn\’t.
Good luck faking a chat log next time. Btw, maybe you might want to try using less stereotpye nicknames next time. And if you try to insert typos to make it look more authentic, you might want to alter the grammar as well.
Taking typos like \”full\” -> \”vull\” and \”deserved\” -> \”deserfed\” are good examples for altering words. Look at the sentence: \”I am sorry but that is our opinion and we stand by it.\” is phrase that would be too sophisticated for the same german who can\’t even spell simple english words.
It is sad enough to take quotes out of context to make a point, but faking them??? that is even more pathetic…
just look at this theres enough stuff to clear the matter.
http://www.verfassungsschutz.de/en/en_fields_of_work/rightwing_extremism/
in addition i think the definition of the rights fits in my opinion of this page.
just remember the first sentence of the newly posted wiki article:
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By the right I mean both the people who are quite correct and the people who vote Republican, love Jesus and hate Liberal Democ-rats and Muslims. And by attack I mean an insidious, pernicious campaign of black propaganda and falsehood.”
This is the facist nazi way … just counter propaganda
so close this page pls and do a favor to the world
Oh, some thing else: In the “log” one writes in capital letters except the umlauts. Couldn’t find the unicode for “??ɬ?” instead of “??Ǭ?”?
Soemthing else: “You inflamed the word twice already and you are going to do it again.”
I know the first time but when was the second? If you refer to WWI then I have to tell you that you might want to take some history lessons. Germany didn’t start that war.
Austria-Hungary declared war on serbia due to the assassination of their heir to the throne which triggered a series in an already delicate situation between both countries. Russia joined serbia and germany had to join Austria-Hungary because Emperor Willhelm II was inane enough to not renew the non-aggression treaty with russia and due to another treaty that bound germany to ally with Austria-Hungary in case of a war (The stupid thing about it was that germany had to ally with them even if Austria-Hungary was the aggressor and not the one being attacked). Well, that’s where it started and escaleted.
There is surely not enough space to explain the situation before WWI broke out to understand the context of world political situation. But you might want to look up all details before embarrassing yourself with another unqualified comment.
Is this Weblog a Joke, sone kind of comedy? I dont get it… it simply can be true, cause its just too dumb…
If you believe this article is serious you have something wrong with you.
Its someone who managed to get an article onto the site and is taking the piss out of shelleys writing.
Well, bless my soul, at lease STR isn’t anti-semitic as well as anti-everyotherbloodything. That’s something at least…
At least the Germans learned from their mistakes in history. I can’t say the same for the USA.
PS. And like the Germans would say : Du bist ein Scheisskopf, und ich bin geil. Genau.
Haha
I knew that we don’t get an answer on which translator was used. Because there is none!
You neve get any answer here, when shelley or the other poseters post a comment they just ignore what they don’t like or make a stupid and useless answer.
http://goodnewsomg.ytmnd.com/
I can rant too.
“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”
– Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
Sure some Americans learned there lesson from history but sadly from the wrong side.
Greetings from Germany
Your atheist liberal democ-rat germ…see you in hell ;)
“Hansilein”
Yeah, right. LMAO
I am laughing my ass off. Please, publish more articles about the inferior Germans.
Ahhh… Sweet stuff to read here. Very funny at all. I’m looking forward to read more articles about the bad Germans, who just know “racist-stuff”, hate, violence, killing jews and other innocents.
Gosh, Shelley (if that’s actually your real name) and all the other great writers on this page, when do you wake up? When are you going to realize that you’re talking bullsh*t? I’m sorry, I want to stay believable and reliable, but what you’re writing here is just crap.
You try to agitate other people against the “Krauts” (dont you call them so because thes’re eating that all day long, wearing dirndl dresses and stuff? Amentia, too) and the rest of Europe, to support you and your “Holy War” against the bad infidels?
Sry, but I still can’t believe that there’re still such stupid people like you..
I’m a 17 year old guy myself, and I do know a lot about the german history and its politics today and I can ensure that your written stuff is NOT true!
Looking forward to read more crap on your page, it’s really funny though..
See you,
Kindest regards
a german reader
Hiho American friend,
I’ve heard of an american organisation called KKK. So I present my new thought of the day: All Americans are racists and hate black people!
You see how stupid your article is? No? Of course not, such an ignorant idiot like you just sees the facts he wants to see.
But try to see the truth only one time: Everything we can see in this blog is crap. You tell us that christianity means tolerance and next to it we see the link “false religions”. How tolerant! But I’m sure you understand the next sentences:
I really would like to write more but I urgent need my “Bratwurst mit Sauerkraut”. I have to support our “warpreporations” and soon we will bomb Pearl Harbour, just like we did at WW2. In addition my “Hitler-moustache” is itching. ;)
Just keep your attitude towards other nations, Jimmy, and we will see us at WW3: USA against the rest of the world.
So long! Your German friend, “Horst-Detlef”
lol dudes cool down…
this whole site is so obviously fake, i can’t believe you even spend one minute trying to defend germany^^
lol wieners….
U and ur site sux. the whole log is faked. i didnt even believe u really were in a chatroom! the germans r obviously the friendliest and nicest ppl on the world! i was there on Worldcup 06 and it was a great time with great ppl!
I love the germans!
cya
hahahahha, after I read the article abotu Canada I just had to read this one:
okay, first of all: I am proud to be German!
know why? not because I am racist or because I ahte other nations or any other bs like that.
no, I am proud to be German because we don’t deny our past! we know something went wrong in the early 20th century but today’s Germany is so much different from back then.
okay, some of the older generation might have lived during the war btu don’t you see it. they are the victims of a system of propaganda lies just like the us citizens are at the moment.
yeah, the holocaust is a very sad thing and I don’t want this ever to be repeated but what about the native americans? what about the so called “indians” how many of those had to die for the sake of your westward movement (in Germany we went eastward back then).
I am not denying the crueld things during the nazi dictatorship.
oh and waht abtou the tens of thousands of black people you “imported” from Africa to work in yoru cotton farms?
not the mention the number of black people that died during the trip to America or have been killed jsut because they wanted to live as free human beings. but you know waht? let’s stick to YOUR truth. it is much more comfortable that way, right?
but you seem to mix facts and fiction. Schindler’s List is a movie. you can tell me you believe the things you are told in movies – like any movie. (oh by the way did you know middle earth isn’t an actual country- you must have lookd for it by now in order to aim your nukes on it!).
besides I am quite sure your chat is fake! and if not what makes you think it represents the german society as a total? couldn’t you jsut ahve gotten in the middle of some sutpid teenager talk? either this or it is fake!
besides why do you think Germans shouldn’t be allowed to sing “Deutschland, Deutschland ??Ǭ?ber alles!”? as a amtter of fact that part of the lyrics exsted before the nazi-time and was only abused by them in order to get a common feeling or patriotism. wait a minute…you ahve songs like that too, don’t you?
“Blest with vict’ry and peace
May the Heav’n-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made
And preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must
When our cause it is just
And this be our motto:
“In God is our trust.”
wow, I mean, wow! you really talk about war and fighting and even conquering in your national anthem! well, we didn’t in ours.
anyway, I am thankful for all the people trying to defend the Germans here. especially after wolrd cup 2006 I was deeply moved hearing all the nice comments about Germans. I really had tears in my eyes hearing even brithsih people saying how much they loved it here.
so now, my final statement is this:
critisism isn’t something negative. you should see it as advice. as a little help from friends!
when the US is critisised it doesn’t mean we hate you! we want your good that you might have lost somewhere adown the spiral of blind hate.
really, come back to reality!
I think if there had been somthing like the internet in 1930s and 40s, Hitler would have used it like you to bring his hate and propaganda to everybody.
Congratulations and good done!
1. The chat log is fake (see the explanations above)
2. Any chatmaster would have kicked them out within a second, because praising A.H. and using Nazi symbols is strictly forbidden in Germany (see the German constitution).
3. I don’t have anything against jews (though I am German), but I know that in the middle ages they had been slaughtered by Christians because they accused the Jews of having killed Jesus.
I hafe to say, you are absolutely correct about us Germans!
We all love Hitler, and we’re really looking forward to the day we launch World War 3, preferrably by bombing a defenseless country like, say, Iraq, into oblivion for no reason at all!
And of course we hate the jews, that’s why we send lots of money to Israel so it can build more weapons and cause others to hate jews too! You see, this time we won’t make any stupid strategic mistakes.
Heil Bush err…. Hitler!
A Deutscher Reader
I am not a Zerman, but I hafe to say ve Europeanz chreally like your zite! It iz zo vunnie! Zis iz aczually zaken vrom a Zerman zatroom!
oh, jimmy your writing is so good it gets me really hot!give us a kiss loverboy
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I can’t believe that that chat is true!
Everybody I know is against Nazis, hates Hilter and would never say “Heil Hitler” or “Deutschland, Deutschland ??Ǭ?ber alles”.
I guess that that chat is faked!
I’m very embarressed for that people in the chat if it isn’t fake…
GERMANS racist thats funny…i married a black american man 25 years ago military ..the only place racist ..guess what ..america …i was born 61 and all i ever heart in 1st grade already how awful we germans are ..we where watching anne frank i could not even understand the whole plot at 6 years old ..all i understood that i somehow come from a bad people …germans arent anymore racist as the rest of the world at least we are thought in highschool that race is a social construct ..unlike america where that information is saved for post graduates…i wonder why…perhaps someone can enlighten me on that fact….
“Well that conversation is obviously fake. Do you really think Germans type with German accents?”
^ Seriously.
maria, you’re such a whore.