Old folks. The Christian solution to their problems.
Today, I?d like you to spare a thought for all the old folks out there. And I?d like you to ask yourself, what are we, as good American Christians doing to help them?
I did this thinking too, and here?s the conclusion I came to:
We?re doing way too much.
Vampire-like these useless old people are sucking the young and healthy of this country dry, using up valuable resources, costing us good tax money, and wasting the time of hundreds of thousands of doctors and nurses around our great land. The very same doctors and nurses that could be looking after our troops and finding cures for diseases that affect useful tax-paying Americans!
An old society is an unhealthy society. I mean, look at Japan – that’s full of old people and all everyone there wants to do is eat disgusting raw fish, get drunk, sing in karaoke machines and sniff young girls panties.
How very selfish most old people are!
I put the problem to the STR.com team and the thoughts below are a compilation of some of the very sensible conclusions and suggestions that were made about how to deal with this scourge on our nation.
The problem is that so many old folks just do not prepare for their old age and yet still force society to pay for their upkeep. Ronald Reagan told us that there is nothing more frightful than welfare: The Republican Party has always been the party of responsibility, not the party of hand-outs, so why are we giving so much money to old people to take out of the useful economy?
Our Medicaid program is way too generous too. After all, if you are poor it’s probably because God has chosen you to suffer. And it?s certainly not the government’s business to interfere with the will of God. In any case, churches and volunteer organizations are much better at providing welfare than government. We should divert Medicaid money to where it?s needed. The economy and our troops. Not ugly toothless moaners.
We started thinking about the way old people never pay tax too. Is that fair? They still get all of society?s benefits. They still use our roads (and how! Anyone who?s ever been stuck behind an old person in a Winnebago will know just how enraging they are! Selfish. Selfish. Selfish.) Wouldn?t it be simpler and fairer if old people should continue paying tax at the same rate as they did when they were working (and still useful, I might add). Only the very rich should be exempt from tax, so that they can reinvest their wealth into boosting the economy and helping America grow.
We are also concerned by this thought: If people are not independently wealthy by the time they get to the end of their natural lives, it is extremely likely that they have been a burden on the state somewhere along the way. Naturally, if this is the case, the state is entitled to recoup some of the money it has contributed throughout the person’s lifetime. We would suggest a system in which actuaries could calculate the average government expenditure per citizen lifetime and set this as the “age bounty”. Upon reaching the nominated age (I think 70 is best) citizens can either:
a) Pay the bounty themselves and continue doing what they do because they’ve obviously been considerate enough not to be a burden on others.
b) Forfeit property and possessions to the state to pay the bill.
And failing all that:
c) Submit to compulsory corporeal acquisition and subsequent sale to the highest bidder (eg pharmaceutical companies who may be able to find a use for their otherwise burdensome bodies).
After the payment of the bounty, the problem may eventually arise that those old people who have annoyed God and who haven?t succeeded in life will run out of money and probably grow sick too, starting to cost everyone else (yet more!) money in the process. The question is then, what should we do with them?
Of course, we at STR.com are not like those Liberals who delight in hoovering up embryos and snuffing them out before they?re even alive or able to think. We don?t recommend so-called painless euthanasia. We know that it would be kinder, more sensible and more pleasing to God to just gently cut old people off. Instead of having to spend money on pensions, companies can just reinvest the millions of dollars they save into the economy (as well as providing suitably large retirement bonuses for their CEO?s to reinvest themselves). The old peoples? health care should be deemed forfeited as soon as they stop paying for it too, thus freeing up doctors and nurses. Then, when they can no longer afford to keep their houses, the old people can be allowed to simply drift away into the streets where they will quickly and painlessly succumb to the elements.
That older Americans die is God’s will – that is the life He has ordained for us. And I don?t see any problem in helping to speed up the whole process so that the old people can fulfill God?s will a bit earlier. And, as my pastor pointed out when I also discussed the matter with him, this system has the added bonus that it will stop old Liberal people annoying God any more, and give them a better chance of not being sent to hell. We?d be doing them a favor (even though they probably don?t deserve it!)
May God Bless You All,
Sam Johnston
Images come from http://mahalanobis.twoday.net/, http://dystemper.hardedge.net/ and www.trent.ceritus.com. (This last image was censored by Our Lord Jesus to protect Christian Americans from seeing a disgusting hand gesture.) The audio file is from Air America Radio’s “Morning Sedition”.
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I hope you die old and poor, because nobody wanted to help you. Then you see what crap you are talking here.
Sam, this article dovetails nicely with the earlier report on poor people. This is the type of story that the LLL MSM refuses to report. Praise the baby Jesus for the Internets where the truth is allowed to get out.
Japan is obviously a dangerous and depraved island. I look forward to a future expose about the danger Japanese culture represents with anime, manga, bad religion, etc.
Nothing much to add yet, but I could hardly wait to praise your work. You give “investigative journalism” a good name. Perhaps “evangelical journalism” would be a better term since the original one is tied inexorably to the Anti-American liberal media.
Congratulations Sam! You’ve done it again. Our Lord surely weeps with joy.
Come on, now this is really quite radical. It\’s a great idea, but I can see a small problem. Don\’t you know that many old people are voters? I think you need to remove their voting rights before you do anything.
You’re incredibly insane !!! You’re pretending to be christian, and as you say Christianity is all about love, peace understandin and bla bla bla bla. But in this article (and many more) you just show that you’re not christian, first considering that tax money should be invest in the army, and as you say war is not christian, then you think (as the good protestant you are) that poor people doesn’t deserves to be cured, that’s terribly not christian and i really believe that the christ himself would blame you and curse you to hell for all this hateful, selfish and ethnocentrist words.
In this blog you just show how americans can be narrow-minded and religion fanatics as some of the muslims are. You’re as dangerous as one’s Bin Laden disciple. You really freak me out.
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To be honsest. I am what you would call an old man. I worked a few times in my life to build up my fortune and I and my servants now live off of it. The state is constantly trying to interfere with my affairs – valuing this, emancipating that. I think that the author of this article has some interesting ideas but he doesn’t consider the possiblilty that us oldies you’ve strived to reach such uncalculable wealth’d be happy to see those free-loading types get their come-up-ance.
By Golly, keep up the good work my transatlantic chum.
You know, that older people, are not supposed to drive, bcause they can’t see that good anymore. Other old people can’t make right decisions anymore, so
Einmaliger, and even as they become more and more, old people may loose their right to vote, won’t they?
Maybe if the ungrateful Youth like shelley and yourself would take care of the elderly instead of allowing the governement to take care of them maybe we would be better off. Nothing christian in any of your Postings. Christ wanted to Love everyone including the Sick Elderly and Poor.
btw you might want to know what is engraved on the foundation of the Statue of Liberty: ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Give me you poor, your tired, your huddled masses; yearning to breath free.?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?
Telling the truth about Shelley 24/7:
http://shelleyuncovered.blogspot.com
Wow sam, i mean Hitler…
They did tests on the jews too…
Why dont we just put all the old people in “happy camps” where they can work (by knitting or some sort of production that can be sold) and support our economy, in return they get food and a small cot.
This is all FUBAR.
All of you at STR
Dear “Nice” Hacker,
I don’t believe that’s your real name, as there’s no such thing. The Statue of Liberty is French and in New York. That’s the last thing I’d turn to to get my decent American values!
Rt Hon Ernest Lowe-D,
Thank you – of course I’m not saying all old people are useless. Some are rich and wise, just like you. What sensible comments!
Shouldn’t Spur be in the Free Speech Zone? Off topic posts like links to his Anti-American liberal islamic satanic porn website with embedded subliminals should not be tolerated, in the interest of a free exchange of ideas. Tolerance of evil and off topic posts is not a virtue.
And ‘Nice’ Hacker is obviously a sponging oldie commenting using a taxpayer funded laptop from his cardboard box over WiFi.
The poor, tired, huddled masses are free to breathe all they want. The fresh air in our public parks and forests might do them some good. They are not however entitled to a handout.
As ususal, STR.com is far too fair.
well sam if you knew anything about history you would know that the plack that has that written on it was actually written by an american. Also there are nice hackers and if you would pop your head out of the Outhouse in which you live for once you would know that. Whats worthless in this country is uneducated people like yourself spouting ignorance and hatred about. Btw i wouldnt use my real name or email because of spam issues. you are looking to get tons of spam if you sport your email about.
Agree wholeheartedly. In the 60s, protesters were critisised for being so young. Today, those free-loving hippies are old farts: Weak from deacades of marijuanna use.
I say: Cull the herd!
This evil side is yet another proof that some (or maybe some more) us-americans are just a bunch of blasphemous, gun-wielding, Dollar-worshiping, human-despising, and ignorant protestants.
But that’s okay. God loves you too. Because he loves all humans. Even people that aren’t christians like jews, muslims and protestants.
May the Lord bless you all!
Roman Catholic greetings from Germany
Clemens
Clemens, don’t you realize that Catholics go to Hell? It’s a false religion misleading you to eternal damnation. See this important tract for Catholics on how to be saved: Last Rites.
Jews, Muslims, Liberals and “Goths” are similarly damned until they accept Jesus and join the Republican party.
Richard first of all i am a 28 year old and there is quite a bit of difference between giving a government handout and saying the old and poor should die or live in the park system. I think it should be up to you to fund your old people in your family. good thing all of you are not very christian like or else i would have to put up with you there!
Kill yourself now Sam, and save God the trouble. Your going to hell anyway, no way to change that.
I must say, there are much better articles on this site.
Clemens, oh yes, and you Catholics are way better, right? Being proud of “finally permitting the use of condoms for AIDS prevention”? Not allowing priests to marry (so instead they turn to child abuse)?
Unbelievable. Religion is so outdated.
Maybe if congress didn’t keep tapping into the SS fund, SS would actually be effective. What you neglect to point out is that these ‘old people’ have been paying into the SS fund all their lives. Of course they should be able to tap into it.
Is this site serious?
Not ugly toothless moaners.
You mean Shelley’s brother?
Of course you do, traitor.
Richard 23 wrote:
Clemens, don’t you realize that Catholics go to Hell?
If it’s God’s will to send me to hell then I have to accept it! It’s God’s great plan and I’m only a part of it.
But I have no right to judge over others. If I pray, then I pray for -all- people but I don’t say them what they have to do. Discriminate old people only because they are old? That’s too wicked, even for protestants.
You should better use their wisdom to learn and to become a better Christian!
I REALLY hope you end up one of these old people who NEED the money. >\
Jeez. Your whole article speaks for itself. It’s stupid. I’ll laugh my ass off when you get old. :]
Radical idiots. I pity you.
You want to save unborn babies but you’d rather make old people die sooner ? Ahhhh ….
Fools. You think people actually take you seriously ?
When i see how you are i understand why you hate old people… Especialy your parents, isn’t it ?
One more time you’re putting money over humanism, displaying pictures with wrong legends and saying something brainless.
I think like Hugo that you’re ready for Hell… Praying is not the only thing to do to be Christian. You have to be human and i doubt about it more and more …
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?É¬Æ having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬÆmen of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
2 Timothy 3: 1-9 (NIV) (emphasis added)
I don’t know, is Shelley very sarcastic or very stupid, but I don’t realy want to know. Go on Shelley, the world is ready for the WW3!
Some articles on this blog clueless. This is just mean and idiotic. Pity you…
I don\’t know what to think.
What I\’ve just read is criminal.
Shorter Anonymous: I can cut and paste Bible verses without bothering to read them. I live a sad and empty life in which I love Google more than I love the baby Jesus.
Repent sinner!
Shorter Richard 23: I live in a room in my Mom’s basement. I see devils everywhere when I run out of my medication. I am a weak minded fool who must follow others. I am lower than pond scum.
Someone has hacked our sound file! Why do liberals insist on keeping decent Americans from the truth?
Yeah, great, thanks for posting the comment I submitted. I completely endorse all my previous statements on this site.
People, people, people you are wsting all of this energy repying to a blog that is a joke! It is here for one reason to make liberals look like morons. This is not a serious blog don\’t get all worked up over nothing..
bubba wrote: I am lower than pond scum.
On that we agree.
Pkarm: People, people, people you are wsting all of this energy repying to this blog! It is here for one reason to make liberals look like morons.
Look in the mirror. [Waiting....]
See, STR.com is working, isn’t it? Does your mother dress you like that?
Mr Johnston, my grandpa smells funny. Can I help him get to heaven sooner? He gave me five dollars on my birthday. I want more. Why are old people so cheap?
I LOve it, this blog changed the wording of my post! What a bunch of gutless a*****les that run this site!
Dear Einmaligner,
It was a very smart comment, I thought it was an intelligent question and it\’s one I\’d like to adress. Perhaps the best idea would be to have some kind of test to see if the old people are still fit to vote, based on wealth, intelligence and knowledge of the Bible. That would have the added advantage of wheedling out the liberals too. i\’m not sure, I\’m just batting around suggestions here. Do you have a better idea?
Sam, I think you are missing something here. Since those liberats in France and other godless places are always going on about how good their welfare is, why don’t we just ship the old folk who can’t afford to stay off to Europe?
The other alternative, of course, is to make them engage in useful work – putting them on the front line when we invade North Korea. After all, they are nearly dead anyway, and they would be fulfilling their patriotic duty – it isn’t like they have anything else useful to do to keep the USA great, this is the one contribution they can really make!
Little Billy,
I’m not sure if i can answer your question in a short space, but I do suggest you stop taking handouts and earn some money for yourself.
Tell you what Sam: As soon as you reach 65, I’ll fly across the atlantic, buy a gun and shoot you. That seems fair.
Richard 23, Is the 23 in your name referring to your IQ ?
PS. The old are wise. Let them be.
I have finally realised the purpose of this site. It is pure propaganda, for te republicans, against the democrats. By getting openly insulted for valid reasons people begin to against with them. People sympathise with those who are insulted, thus raising support for Lord Jesus.
Anom. is a typical liberal: hurling insults when they have no facts and no rational argument. Congratulations, kookbat!
Maybe you should try reading the United States Declaration of Independence sometime:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men… are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life…”
Sounds like you want to take away that right prematurely. Did you ever stop to think that if God wanted them to die early, they would have died early? Can you honestly say that their actions are postponing the ability of God to end their lives? Or is “liberalism” more powerful than God? Or is it that liberalism is more powerful than whatever god you worship? If that last is the case, then you should consider converting to Christianity, where you can worship a powerful and living God.
Or maybe you should think of the Golden Rule: Do to others as you would have them do to you. (Luke 6:31) I can’t believe that you would want to be kicked out into the streets if you ever get old or lose your money.
“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.” – Abraham Lincoln (the first Republican president, I might add.)
I’m beginning to think that you and Bin Laden are cut from the same cloth… you both want those who disagree with you to die horribly, and you both are waving false religious reasoning to justify your horrible actions and words. You are no more a “true” Christian than Bin Laden is a “true” Muslim.
I used to think that the people who wrote for this site were simply ignorant and extremely naive. Now I see you are clearly completely insane. And you are giving Republicans, Americans, and Christians a black eye by pretending to speak for us all. I am a proud Christian, a proud American, and a Republican, and I am absolutely sickened by the lies, half-truths, and misinformation (not to mention the pure hate, racism and intolerance) you put on this site, all in the name of Christianity, America, and Republicans. I have yet to read a single article on this site that I can agree with, even when you talk about topics that I want to agree with (in those instances, your reasoning is so bad and so full of untruths and hate-mongering that agreeing with you is all but impossible), and I can’t even begin to express my outrage on items such as this where your comments are not only un-American, but un-Christian.
Maybe you should take a break from the website and read the U.S. Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, the Federalist Papers, the Bill of Rights, and the Christian Bible, because clearly you haven’t read any of them before, or if you have, you haven’t let them sink in. Until you do let them sink in, you won’t know what this country or Christianity really stand for. In the meantime, I will be doing the best thing I can to change your minds… I will be praying for you.
“Richard 23 wrote:
Clemens, don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t you realize that Catholics go to Hell? It?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s a false religion misleading you to eternal damnation. See this important tract for Catholics on how to be saved: Last Rites.
Jews, Muslims, Liberals and ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Goths?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? are similarly damned until they accept Jesus and join the Republican party”
dear richard23, i’ve read the comic in the link and actually it’s about how i feel true christianity is about. the catch however is: much of old testament contradicts the new and it’s a merit of the catholic church to point those out in hundreds of years of theology. but again, even with my low rating on any religion, i like the fundamental aspect in your posts.
but when i think about the early church, before the roman conversion and while christians where used as lion food in circusses,
i wonder were the true enlightment, the speaking in tongues and miracles of those days are,,,
i just can’t help notice the decline of god’s awesome power from the creation of heaven and earth over the destruction of sodom and gomorra to the helplessness of his son’s death at an artifact of torture.
were is the god who leaded his people for fourty years and gave them personally the commandments?
were was he when christianity became idolatry? were is His voice and presence? according to the bible it has been more then 2000 years ago the last was heared from Him personaly.
one last remark, deepen yourself in the subliminal matter. a comment about embedded pornographic messages on another website is dubious when posted on a site where graphic censoring occurs with jesus-pictures (no graven image? ok, the nuance between “graven” and pixelbytes is obvious but that’s a catholic merit for pointing out)
“Shorter Richard 23″: I wanted to put the entire Bible in my post, but I knew that wouldn’t be read, either. And yes, I have read the Bible, multiple times from cover to cover, every word from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21. How about you? Do you even own a Bible?
I highlighted the parts that I wanted to emphasize, but if I didn’t want people to read the whole thing, and if I didn’t think the whole didn’t fit the topic, I wouldn’t have posted the whole thing. It isn’t my fault if you aren’t capable of reading 9 short verses of the very book you claim to follow.
Maybe I should have shortened it to simply “their folly will be clear to everyone”. Clearly that is the case here.
BUSH visits GERMANY today! Hope he will not get spoilt in the evil old Europe. ;-)
Dear Mr Corfman,
Apart from the Holy Bible, those texts you cite are, as George Bush our President has pointed out, just useless old pieces of paper. You know it sickens me when people try to bend Christianty for political purpose like you democ-rats. Everyone knows that Jesus was a Republican and God loved just wars. You just have to read the Bible (ie God’s word!) to understand this.
How about putting old, poor and other useless people into working camps where they can become useful members of the society? For example in Alaska, they could build the new Pipeline from Northwestern Alaska to Valdez. They would be a very good replacement for the unreliable, lazy and alcoholic eskimos.
Jesus took bribes from Jack Abramoff too? You said he was a republican, so he must have. Until we republicans can clear out the corrupt cabal currently in Washington, Jesus would not have anything to do with being a Republican.
Great Idea!!!
Start with GW Bush.
Sam you are doing some “doblepensar”. you make me feel sick.
1984 read that book.
If you are going to throw out “useless old pieces of paper” like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, when they are the foundations of the United States of America and are only 200 years old, why do you believe in the Bible which is the foundation of Christianity and over 2000 years old? Or do you believe in the Bible?
If Bush really said that, then I sincerely regret ever voting for him… twice. And I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Democratic party. We Hoosiers are predominantly Republican.
You claimed, “It sickens me when people try to bend Christianty for political purpose.” Have you even looked at this site? There is hardly a single Christian ideal on this entire site, yet it is twisted to claim to be “Christian” ideas. Let’s look at this post, for example. Where is the justification, from the Bible (the Christian Bible, that is, not whatever satanic book you seem to follow), for throwing people out into the streets to die? I submit that is a purely political viewpoint, not even close to a Christian point of view. But if you can prove me wrong on this one issue, I will be happy to write a complete and full retraction on everything I have said in every post I have made on this site. But you need to supply me with verses to back up your point before I will concede, preferably with at least some verses from the New Testament.
BTW, Jesus wasn’t a political figure, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Federalist, Torrie, Nazi, Communist, or otherwise (although he has certainly been used a lot over the years to “justify” some terrible atrocities). Talk about “bending Christianity for political purposes”. And I don’t remember the New Testament ever talking about how we should go to war with anyone (don’t get me wrong, though, I do support the war in Iraq, and I thought we should have gotten rid of Saddam when the first Bush was president, that would have saved us loads of headaches over the last decade and a half, but I don’t remember seeing a justification for this in the Bible… in fact, the phrase “turn the other cheek” comes to mind, as does “love thy neighbor” and “do unto others”).
I think these old people have had it too well for too long. Social Security is the greatest boondoggle since Louis XIV, and Medicaid is like giving every codger in America a credit card with an unlimited balance and 0% APR. When will these old people learn to take care of themselves? If they haven’t figured out how to get by int eh first 70 years of their lives, why are we helping them out now?
The Christian thing to do would be to smite these ingrates. Jesus said in the Bible, “I don’t bring you peace, I bring you the sword.” He also said, “Let the dead bury the dead,” a clear reference to the elderly.
So clearly, from both the standpoint of the Church and the standpoint of the State, America is better off without old people. But what about the elderly themselves? It’s difficult to understand their perspective, given the difficulties inherent in trying to communicate with them. But as for me, I know I’d rather die than not be able to appreciate Britney Spears music or contemporary Christian rock. Do the elderly feel the same way about this issue? In their heart of hearts, I’m sure they do. I’m sure they do.
I thank you for your time.
It’s not the current crop of elderly who concern me. They were the ones who fought for freedom and democracy in WWII, and as such, deserve our utmost respect. It’s the baby boomers who worry me — look at what things were like as the baby boomers came of age. We entered decades of hedonism, drug abuse, disrespect, lewdness, and sin. And now, they’re getting older, and whining about how we’re all going to have to take care of them, even though half of them were dodging the draft when we were trying to fight the menace of communism! They were all pretty anti-US, weren’t they? And now they want Uncle Sam to give them a handout. Shameful.
‘you can tell how civilised a society is by how well it looks after its old people’ i’d like to point out that what you are suggesting IS euthanasia and the worst thing is,its not even painless!!! do you realise that even though your country is doing better than ever economically, the minimum wage is lower than it was 30 years ago. this means that someone may have worked their whole life and not been paid enough to save up for old age, and you suggest leaving them to die! i think its disgracefull that you consider this a reasonable way to treat people, and i suggest you ask your parents or grandparents if they wouldnt mind you leaving them on the strets to die.
If Bush really did say that about the U.S. Constitution, then he is breaking his own oath to office:
I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Without the Constitution, he isn’t President, the United States doesn’t exist, and you have nothing to defend.
Shelly’s imaginary sky god appears to be as evil as she is in professing to represent this evil. Shelly is an author proving that reason can exist with faith only if the world’s religious adherents can manage to keep their faith reserved to their respective religons while learning to use reason for reality here on earth.
Sadly, there?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s 10s of millions of muddled Christian minds in the huddled masses that remain in this sort of deluded, thought dependent, spoon-fed Orwellian twilight zoned reality. Unfortunatly for the few ‘realists’ or rational thinkers in the land, trying to help the faith-full of shit see reason is almost like arguing with a drunk or someone using drugs to ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?escape?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ reality. It?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s very difficult to convince them of what?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s real and what?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s not. When confronted with evidence against their faux reality, the muddled ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?dependent thinking?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ minds of these huddled masses in America have become so dependent on the fallacies they?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ve been spoon fed, they encounter an intense fear that their world view, or faux reality, will come crashing down around them. Which it must in order to cure their psychosis and exist more fully in a rational reality. It is the same foundation of fear used by religion that causes a complete rejection of factual evidence to the contrary. When the factual evidence is rejected, one acts against reality. Rejecting a fact-based rational reality is an act of self-destruction.
?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?you can tell how civilised a society is by how well it looks after its old people?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥
True. And our society has not yet taken care of this problem. Until we deal with the elderly, they will consistently slow down our efforts to enhance our civilization. If we cut off even 1/2 of the elderly from Social Security and Medicare, we could devote over $100 million more to finding a cure for old age. This is clearly in everyone’s best interest, but to these criminal coddling, pie-in-the-sky liberal rubes, continuing to subsidize the problem is the solution.
“i?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥d like to point out that what you are suggesting IS euthanasia and the worst thing is,its not even painless!!!”
The ugly mischaracterizations one has come to expect from the “reality-based” community.
“this means that someone may have worked their whole life and not been paid enough to save up for old age, and you suggest leaving them to die! i think its disgracefull that you consider this a reasonable way to treat people,”
No, you’d prefer to finance the stupidity of others. I consider that economic foolishness. This is where we disagree.
“i suggest you ask your parents or grandparents if they wouldnt mind you leaving them on the strets to die.”
My grandparents had the decency to die. They no longer burden our great nation. My parents are squirreling money away in anticipation of a move to Sweden or some other European “ally” (enemy) of ours, where they can live by leeching off resources from the alien state. Using the resources of a backstabbing former ally against them is a high-minded, if devious, form of patriotism IMHO.
And you? Why aren’t YOUR parents/grandparents working to bankrupt the EU?
GOD IS CONTROLLING THE ACTION OF EVERYBODY: SO LIBERAL ARE SERVING GOD! You republicshit should just sleep all days and nights, not caring about what happend around you, anyway god will decide for you.
Potto said “the minimum wage is lower than it was 30 years ago.”
Minimum wage:
1976: $2.30
1997: $5.15
Another kookbat liberal lie is exposed.
Richard 23, that is the raw monetary value. What is that adjusted by inflation? Or do you think things cost the same amount today as they did in 1976?
I tell you what, Richard 23, I will save you the trouble to find out.
According to http://www.aier.org/cgi-aier/colcalculator.cgi, $2.30 in 1976 is worth $8.09 in 2006.
$8.09 is less than $5.15.
Now who is lieing?
As Yogi Berra said, “A nickel ain’t worth a dime anymore.”
BTW, a nickel in 2006 is worth a penny in 1976.
Jason, you can throw all the far left pseudo-math garbage you want at me to try and muddy the waters. You can quote baseball stars. You can pretend you have a time machine. None of it matters.
I tried an experiment today. I dug through my change and found a 1976 nickel and took it to the store. I asked for change for that nickel. Guess what? I got five pennies, not one!
Now look back at pot smoker’s original assertion: ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?the minimum wage is lower than it was 30 years ago.?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?
$5.15 (today’s minimum wage) is greater than $2.30 (30 years ago mininum wage). So who is right? The guy with the facts: R23!
Ahahahahaha you stupid [foul word deleted]!!! This site is the best education I get every single time I feel holy enough to drop by! What a load of utter [foul word deleted]!! Didn\’t mommy and daddy pay enough attention to me when I was young, or is it that they dropped you on the floor once too often?
Richard 23, and how much could you buy with that nickel, compared to how much you could buy with it in 1976? I remember buying gum balls out of vending machines with pennies back in the 80s. I haven’t seen a gum ball machine for less than a dime in years (not that I chew gum anymore, but I still notice these things).
And if you go back farther, my dad talked a lot about having $5 when he was growing up and being able to get a hamburger, fries, and coke, and then going to the movies and getting a coke and popcorn and still had money left at the end of the night. Try to do that now and see what happens.
The FACT is, money doesn’t stretch as far today as it did in 1976. And if you had a quarter of a brain, you would realize that.
“I mean, look at Japan – that?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s full of old people and all everyone there wants to do is eat disgusting raw fish, get drunk, sing in karaoke machines and sniff young girls panties.”
I’ve never been to Japan, but I’m pretty sure they aren’t all like that.
You are narrow-minded.
I love buying girl’s panties from the local train station vending machine.
What’s so wrong with that? And those sailor scout schoolgirl uniforms! Oh, bliss!
Aha! JapanMan admits it! Beware Pokemon hentai porn!
It has been five days and nobody has risen to my challenge in post 57, paragraph 3. Could it be because there isn’t a Biblical reason for this stance?
I’m still willing to keep up my end of the bargain, BTW. That is, IF you can prove to me that it is a Biblical stance and not just your own ideas. If it truly is a Christian idea, then it will be in the Bible.
Dude, the inflation argument has to be one of the funniest things I have read in this site. I realize that people who writes these are dead serious (which scares me), but that was just hilarious. “I dug through my change and found a 1976 nickel and took it to the store. I asked for change for that nickel. Guess what? I got five pennies, not one.”
As a Christian (I’m not going to say fellow Christian b/c this blog is more Satanistic than.. satanism), I first have to announce that whatever you read from this blog is NOTHING like what Christianity teaches. Jesus told us we should help the needy, the weak, the disadvantaged, etc. What you’re proposing is exactly opposite of that.
As a QT leader of my church and as a person who have studied the Bible his whole life, I ask you to actually read what God told us before writing what you THINK God told us. What you are doing, brother, is blasphemy.
Another day has passed and nobody has risen to the challenge in post 57. Of course, based on the current article about how Song of Soloman was somehow mysteriously added to the Bible by liberals and was only recently “discovered” makes me think that I am not going to get a Biblical response since it is clear that the people writing for this site have no idea what the Bible actually says. But I will keep counting.
I’d feel old too if I didn’t go to: http://www.nomorestr.blogspot.com
Well, 10 days have passed since my challenge in post 57. I will give you another 4 days (that will be July 27, a grand total of two weeks from the initial challenge) and then I will withdraw my challenge. But for such “knowledgable” “Christians” such as yourselves, this challenge should be a piece of cake.
For simplicities sake, I will repeat the challenge:
“Where is the justification, from the Bible (the Christian Bible, that is, not whatever satanic book you seem to follow), for throwing people out into the streets to die? I submit that is a purely political viewpoint, not even close to a Christian point of view. But if you can prove me wrong on this one issue, I will be happy to write a complete and full retraction on everything I have said in every post I have made on this site. But you need to supply me with verses to back up your point before I will concede, preferably with at least some verses from the New Testament.”
Well then Jason,
Let’s start with the poor:
Deuteronomy 28:48 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright ?Ǭ¨?Ǭ© 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in nakedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the LORD sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.
1 Samuel 2:7 (New International Version)
The LORD sends poverty and wealth;
he humbles and he exalts.
Proverbs 6:11 (New International Versio)
11 and poverty will come on you like a bandit and scarcity like an armed man..
Proverbs 14:23 (New International Version)
All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty.
Leviticus 19:15
” ‘Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.”
Deuteronomy 15:4
However, there should be no poor among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you,”
These are just a sample of the quotes that prove poverty is the Lord’s judgement for evil-doers.
Here are a few verses which I think prove you wrong, also from NIV:
“There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land.” Deuteronomy 15:11
“I know that the LORD secures justice for the poor and upholds the cause of the needy.” Psalms 140:12
“He who mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished.” Proverbs 17:9
“If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered.” Proverbs 21:13
“Rich and poor have this in common: The LORD is the Maker of them all.” Proverbs 22:2
“The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.” Proverbs 29:7
“Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy” Proverbs 31:9
“She opens her arms to the poor and extends her hands to the needy.” Proverbs 31:20
“What do you mean by crushing my people and grinding the faces of the poor?” declares the Lord, the LORD Almighty.” Isaiah 3:15
“Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless. ” Isaiah 10:1-2
“The scoundrel’s methods are wicked, he makes up evil schemes to destroy the poor with lies, even when the plea of the needy is just.” Isaiah 32:7
“He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?” declares the LORD.” Jeremiah 22:16
“Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.” Ezekiel 16:49
“You trample on the poor and force him to give you grain. Therefore, though you have built stone mansions, you will not live in them; though you have planted lush vineyards, you will not drink their wine.” Amos 5:12
“Hear this, you who trample the needy and do away with the poor of the land… The LORD has sworn by the Pride of Jacob: “I will never forget anything they have done.” Amos 8: 4, 7
“This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the alien or the poor. In your hearts do not think evil of each other.’” Zechariah 7:9-10
“Looking at his disciples, he said: “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.” Luke 6:20
“But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”" Luke 14:13-14
“When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”" Luke 18:22
“But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.” Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham.” Luke 19:8-9
“For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the saints in Jerusalem.” Romans 15:26
“If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.” 1 Corinthians 13:3
“…sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; poor, yet making many rich; having nothing, and yet possessing everything.” 2 Corithians 6:10
“Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in shabby clothes also comes in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong? If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.” James 2:2-10
“You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.” Revelation 3:17
Dear Jason,
I hope you aren’t inferring that the Bible contains contradictions! That is the path to hell or athiesm!
Well, if you want to consider your six verses as contradictions to my 25 verses, that is your interpretation, not mine.
Besides, Deuteronomy 28:48 says that poverty is a possible punishment, not the only punishment, nor an automatic punishment. 1 Samuel 2:7 says that the Lord sends both poverty and wealth (but doesn’t describe either as a punishment). Leviticus 19:15 would seem to fit my interpretation more than it fits yours. Deuteronomy 15:4 was pretty conditional upon the Israelites following God in the Promised Land, which they didn’t (and in case you didn’t notice, the United States is not the Biblical “promised land”).
Of course, if you remember, Job was “punished” with poverty and he didn’t do anything wrong.
And none of your verses were from the New Testament, which means that you aren’t following the teaching of Christ (that is something of a requirement for being a Christian, afterall… people who only follow the Old Testament are Jewish, not Christian), whereas five of my verses were quotes from Jesus.
“These old people want to stop our just wars. Presumably because they hope that that way more taxpayers money will go to them. Shameful!”
It is YOU who should be ashamed!! How dare you criticize these old people!! They seem much more intelligent than you are!! At least, THEY have understood that a war is never “just”. There are always innocent people killed. You are just a fanatic, intolerant and stupid man… I feel pity for people like you…
You are calling old people as blood sucking vampires.It is shameful on your part.You cannot blame them who have given you life.I don’t know why the hell you feel like that.I pray to the almighty that you should realise importance of elderly in our lives.May some day you grow so old and weak and then let your successors call you vampire then I’ll ask you how you feel.
you are a fucking idiot i hope you die old so that when nobody wants you and you want help i hope someone spits in your face and teh war in iraq and afganistan are wrong and so-called Pres. Bush is a disgrace to our country
sam u shud be put against a wall and shot u terrorist!
sam I agree with everything you and rest of str say I have bought a gift that I know you and the rest of str will like I just need to know the address of the str office so I can mail it to you think of it as a late christmas gift.
someone should tire STR idiots in a chair and make them listen to slayer for days on end .