Linux and Windows Compared: The Facts
Some readers of the ShelleyTheRepublican.com blog complained that my recent critique of the Linux computer program was unfair; They claimed that I was ignorant and therefore unqualified to review their product, moreover they stated that my opinions were biased therefore untrustworthy.
Shelley has given me the opportunity to defend myself; to tell you a little bit about myself and the methodologies I have used to evaluate Windows and Linux. This is also my opportunity to shoot down some of the more fanciful theories that have been proposed in response to my previous warning.
For starters my credentials; I am a former IT manager from a major city in Oklahoma. I am also vice-president of IT for our regional Prayer Team. Some years ago I’m proud to say that I graduated as a Microsoft Certified Engineer; I have a wide understanding of both technical and business computing issues. I am sure you will agree that I am exceptionally qualified to speak on this subject.
As for “bias”, I am not a “Microsoft Fan-boy”? or any of the hundreds of more offensive things I have been called. I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web. Where would we have been without Microsoft? Perhaps typing obscure Russian commands into a barely comprehensible command-prompt on a Chinese made computer.
And as for our methods of evaluation: They are based on exactly the same bench-tests used by PC Magazine, which is the world’s most trusted IT journal. Let me share some of my recent findings:
We prepared two nearly identical machines. The windows “rig” was based on an AMD “Athlon 64 X2″? 2Ghz chip, whereas the Linux machine was based on an Intel “Pentium 4″? 2Ghz. We would have liked to test Linux on an Athlon as well, however AMD would not provide us with a Linux driver CD; In any case both of these chips were approximately equal in power because the Intel chip had has “Hyperthreading”?.
Naturally we tested the latest version of both operating systems. For Windows we chose the 2003 edition, available at almost every computer retailer in our country. Finding the latest version of Linux proved a challenge in itself:
We had been told that the newest version of RedHat Linux was version 3.0, which for a “flagship” product was surprisingly hard to find. When we did locate it, we were astonished to be told that it was “quite old” and that RedHat no longer provided any level of technical support for it.
When we opened the shrink-wrap box we were astounded to find that it contained a large set of floppy-disks. I cannot imagine what Redhat were thinking in this age of DVDs; still this would be a step up from the magnetic-tapes upon which FreeBSD is normally supplied (Free BSD is an older kind of Linux).
This alcoholic has Linux installed on his laptop.
After a number of failures, we managed to take the tedious floppy-disk based installation to it’s conclusion. We could not have been more disappointed. The GUI seemed garish and hard to use. It was a woeful mish-mash of primary colors and clashing visual styles. We had become accustomed to Microsoft’s visual sophistication. The crude Linux desktop was a shock to our poor eyes:
A typical Linux desktop: Note in yellow the Linux “equivalent” to Microsoft’s Outlook.
Is this really the best that Linux had to offer? We decided to gloss over the superficial aspects of the interface and get down to actual usability.
The Linux installation did not include a web-browser, but according to the manual one could be “easily” installed using Linux’s RPM utility. After spending half an hour trying to decode the “man page”, we were able to install the latest version of Netscape Navigator, the new browser from Firefox.
This truly uncompelling start contrasts profoundly with the Windows installation experience. There was no need to download a web-browser for Windows (Microsoft thoughtfully decided to integrate one with their operating system), so instead we downloaded a small shareware productivity utility called “Bonzi Buddy”?.
Most commonly used productivity tools are not available on Linux; For example, this program uses Microsoft Agent technology which has not yet been ported to Linux.
The installation couldn’t have been simpler; The install icon appeared on my desk. All I had to do to install the program was double-click on it. There were no additional passwords to type in and as an additional courtesy to users, Windows installers often include extra programs that might be of interest.
For example, my download included Claria, and Comet-Cursor. A review of these utilities is outside the scope of this article, nonetheless it was gratifying that the makers of Windows software have the freedom to innovate.
The same could not be said for Linux. In the time that it took me to install three great utilities, I had barely managed a single Linux installation. Had it not occurred to the makers of Linux that their users might wish to use the Internet? Installation of some basic software required a complex series of commands and passwords to be entered.
Now what can we say of the Windows browsing experience? Many of you will be familiar with Internet explorer. Millions of Americans have grown accustomed to it’s ease of use, slick presentation and universal compatibility;
But what about Netscape?
This is how the STR site appears to a Linux User. The images are jumbled, the layout appears random.
The experience as you can see was somewhat surreal: Images appeared jumbled fonts were bizarrely out of proportion and the vast majority of websites simply failed to load. I imagine this is how pot-heads must see the world; I suspect that only a pot-head would assume that this is how the rest of the world is supposed to appear!
A Linux user’s view of the world. Hallucinations from excessive use of Linux might be similar to those of LSD or pot.
As expected, this browser lacked many of the basic features that Microsoft’s users take for granted. For example, it was incompatible with “Active X”, an exciting technology from Microsoft that allows “plugins”? to be instantly loaded.
On Windows, these are seamlessly downloaded and installed in the background, usually without causing any interruption to the user; On Linux, a simple browser plugin apparently requires extensive knowledge of the command-shell; Once again, we asked ourselves why Linux users would be willing to put up with this?
Finally we looked at support; Access to technical information is important for any software. Microsoft offered an extensive knowledge base in addition to a commercial, “per incident” based support line. While the support was friendly and expert we felt no need to consult Microsoft. On the other hand, Redhat’s product was baffling from the start.
Lacking any official support channel, we turned to something called ?IRC?? for help. Lacking offices, or immigration visas, many Linux developers often use IRC as a means of communication. We were quite baffled as to how anybody might expect to get any assistance at all, the whole IRC experience resembled a sordid on-line brothel:
The #linux channel, seemed to be a venue of immorality; I would not wish my wife or children to use this service. It appeared to be some sort of pick-up venue.
We soon gave up expecting to find any help at all; I expect that this is what any Linux user who is not fluent in C++ will have to do eventually.
In conclusion; the much hyped combination of Linux and Mozilla’s “Netscape Navigator” does not measure up to Microsoft’s latest offering. While I feel Linux might be applicable to certain niche applications, I for one couldn’t think what that application might be. It certainly is not yet ready for the desktop.
I should hope that dispels some of the more fanciful notions about Linux’s worth to a corporation; It’s an absurd to suggest that great companies like Google and IBM might have had anything at all to do with this mess.
Of course, this review is somewhat incomplete; Linux is defficient in many more ways; For example it does not feature something called Digital Rights Management; It certainly seems that Linux users have chosen to become a 2nd class citizen compared to users of more mainstream operating systems; That too is outside the scope of this review, but please be reassured that we will return to it soon enough.
God Bless You,
Tristan
I’m not a technician certified by Microsoft, i’m only 17, and i know how to use Linux (and windows). I installed Linux and erased Windows from my computer, on sunday (after going to church).
I don’t want to criticize but … how me, a young user, can use a complicated OS when you, a experienced technician, can’t ?
That’s only objectives facts. You take them the way you want.
But I think it fails you some … obectivty in your test. Two ways to explain that:
- You are really incompetent (i really don’t think so, but i could be)
- You don’t want to understand how linux works
But that is only my point of view. Facts stay here: You, as a technician, do not know how to install a Linux OS, and me, as a young student, use Linux every day (at home).
Oh my good god! Get your heads out of your a$$, this is the funniest thing I have ever read in my life! I run Ubuntu Dapper on my laptop and would never ever run a Windows OS again. This has got to be a huge joke.
Ubuntu
Oh my, it’s just hilarious, too bad this alleviate all doubts about the true nature of this blog.
Now it is too obviously comedy.
It was so sweet to wonder and have the nagging feeling that it may be serious after all.
Somewhere in the American midwest there is a man with a sense of humour so subtle that he could write a “serious” comparison of the latest version of Windows with an 8 year-old release of RH Linux. That man is Tristan, and he is living proof that at least one US citizen gets the point of irony.
Best laugh I’ve had in ages!
Say, Tristan, have you heard of the latest and greatest OS? It’ll beat anything Microsoft has ever released. It’s been developed by IBM, whom, as you know, are an even older and more respectable American company. Those fine, upstanding citizens have developed an operating called OS/2 - it’s a must have! You must encourage all your friends to buy this wonderfully stable, lightning fast, fully compatible and totally virus-free system.
What i cant believe is that you are so behind the times that you don’t know that red hat has released many versions of its OS since the “comparison” you performed. i really want to know where in the heck you managed to find a copy of red hat 3.0 i dont think i have ever been in a computer store that even carried that old a version. 3.0 came out at a time where there were not alot of options. Best buy carries Suse 10.0 try to find that and compare it. i use linux at home on a daily basis and have no problems except pptp protocol to vpn into work with. that is only because pptp is a microsoft only standard. I render this page on firefox,netscape and konquerer just fine. i am not trying to mean but i would appreciate it if you just asked someone who actually knows better to help you with your request to explore the subject of comparison. i think retired IT manager says about everything about you i think anyone needs to know. posting the get the facts campain link doesnt help your real facts because its a microsoft sponsered listing of articles saying how great microsoft is. of course they would say that or they would lose customers. another correction FreeBSD is not an older Linux. its a version of Unix that is quite new. linux is a copy of Minix which is a unix that was written by a college professor for teaching operating systems.
Nice try to make Linux look like a bad OS
I don’t no, how you managed it to find such an old Linux. All Users should take a look at Ubuntu, a realy good Linux Distribution that is much better than Windows.
A Linux user’s view of the world. Hallucinations from excessive use of Linux might be similar to those of LSD or pot.
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Even the repeated reading of the Word Linux makes me feel sick, i fully support your battle against those Pot Smoking Linux Terrorists that are trying to take over the Internet with their program. Linux is nothing else than a weapon against God, G.W. Bush and America.
Your Prayer team has an IT Department?
Anonymous said…
Oh, this is funny.
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You get money for each hit on your blog, I guess. And the best way to get a lot of hits is to spread funny bs.
This is not true*** and it is no “BS”. The article is carefully researched by Tristan and I have no reason to doubt it complete truthfullness!
God bless America!
Shelley
PS: Let me know where I can sign up for getting paid for every hit. I would love that. I could donate the money to my church group!
Anonymous; Regardless of what you think, these are well researched facts. I am sure they are uncomfortable for you to read. Having one’s disillusions shattered is allways uncomfortable.
If you do not believe me, please take a look at the many INDEPENDANT research documents on this website:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/default.mspx
My own study concluded that Linux was not yet ready for the desktop, however feel free to read all the reports that show what other purposes Linux is unsuited for.
Tristan
I am still not quite certain if you are masters of manipulation, who get some sick pleasure out of stirring up the proverbial hornets nest, or if you really are a bunch of pompous idiots…but come on…even if you are…this is stupidity in the extreme. If you don’t like linux, that’s fine, don’t use it, and let us who seem to get on just fine with it to our own devices.
I sincerely hope that nobody believes this mumbo-jumbo. It is obviously a fake (there’s no way someone could be that stupid), but it is grossly misleading to people without personal experience on the subject.
Tristan is so right, Linux is a communist tool build on communist ideas. Without Microsoft no internet, no mouse and no desktop computer. Its not weird that Jobs uses a communist OS, he is one himself
still this would be a step up from the magnetic-tapes upon which FreeBSD is normally supplied
FreeBSD has never been supplied on magnetic-tapes. Even back ten years ago when FreeBSD 1.0 was released, magnetic tape was too unreliable when compared to paper tape and punch cards.
If it is possible for the author the revise his or her article, I would recommend replacing the word “Firefox” with “Mozilla” up at the browser comparison. Even if purposefully using dead & buried software, the names should be more or less correct ;-)
Besides, since Dan Brown wrote his idiotic mainstream ramblings it has become quite difficult to fool people into thinking that someone other that CERN invented the Web, or US Military the Internet, for that matter.
assuming that this guy has 2 brain cells that actually function. This has to be egging on the satire or his original post.
first off look at the fallacies that shouldn’t be there in the first place.
All linux distro’s can be downloaded and burnt onto cd’s or a dvd rom.
netscape is not even close to being the same company as firefox (firfox is owned by mozilla)
I can see where someone with no clue about technology could assume microsoff came up with the internet and http://WWW.
You also have to laugh at this guy comparing a 64 bit X2 chip to a p4 as the same when they aren’t even the same when you compare windows vs windows.
The only part in the article that makes any sense is the whole fact that yes linux takes knowledge to learn how to use.
Hi there :)
this article is very funny :)
1st screenshot is taken from some very old linux, try this one:
http://ventyl.web4all.sk/screenshots/1.jpg
(Slackware Linux 10.2 KDE 3.4.2)
2nd image: do you think, that every alcoholic must have Linux installed and do you think that every owner of Linux must be alcoholic?
Bonzy buddy is useless under linux. Linux has native support for multiple users in same time working on the same machine.
The netscape, which is used for viewing STR under linux is maybe 5 or 6 years old :) Thy newest Firefox, like me :) no problems :) (You can get same garbage when using Microsoft Internet Explorer 3 for example).
Next screenshot is probably some fractal. What is bad about fractal computing? Crazy colours? Can you give the proof of hallucinations from daily usage of Linux? I use Linux for about 2 years constantly every day and everything is ok :)
Do you still think, that this server uses Windows? Because i don’t think so :)
If you want to compare something, then first give equal chances to both compared products. Maybe these cheap lies can be consumed by average american head, but not everybody will allow you to lie him this way.
If you want further contact, you can do so at ventyl86(at)netkosice(dot)sk
Nice day
Men, how crazy people are out there, i imagine that you have the flag in your underpants, and a bible just next your 9 mm, are you racist to?, men you write bullshit seriusly, i realy hope that this articles are a joke, because it only speaks of a sick and loosy mind.
Ok, to benschmark products you need to know the basics of the products. First of all, you could have tested the linux on you AMD just aswell, as you don’t need any driver CD’s. Second of all, the latest distros are found right of their home pages, just download this ISO files, use your favourite CD-burning software, and you have a brand new instalation CD. The largest distros have loads of software available on their installations CD’s, and some of them have nice features for adding software directly from the internet (almost like Microsoft Update).
The lack of Active X is one of the reasons I use Linux. By removing that from my computer I have more controll over information sent from me.
The lack of DRM software is not a choise from the Linux society, but a result of MPAA and RIAA denying source information and protocol documentation to software developers. It seems like Microsoft and Apple are the only ones given this. DRM software will come to Linux too, but patience is the key for linux users.
BSD is not Linux, BSD is a UNIX system developed by Berkley university, and released under the GNU software license. Linux is based upon Minix, a system far much older than UNIX. I have to admit that Linux also uses much software under the GNU license, though the Linux kernel have its own license.
Counting linux versions goes on the kernel, not the distributions. I use a linux kernel version 2.6.15, which is only a few months old, new versions comes as new drivers are added, or various known bugs are fixed. Just like security upgrades in Windows.
Distribution versions is not the same as Linux versions. The distributions count their versions on the bundle of software it delivers. My current installation is a Gentoo 2006.1, that is the first bundle Gentoo delivered this year.
If you want to learn more about this, check out the following pages:
http://www.gnu.org/
http://www.linux.org/
http://www.kernel.org/
http://www.redhat.com/
http://www.gentoo.org/
http://www.debian.org/
http://www.freebsd.org/
http://www.suse.de/
Hope you manges to get the facts right next time.
PS: Gentoo have a great support sustem using web forums, so that you don’t need to go through the caos of IRC.
Absolute genius! I’m just sad it’s finally proved it’s all a big joke! I’ll still keep reading though. Thanks guys, the laughs just keep getting bigger!
Dear Tristan
I just felt obliged to give you some hints about not-100%-right parts in your blog.
- I admit, the testing computers you used are quite equal, yet it is not right to take this as a final result, since there are more CPU-drivers available for linux than for windows. You easily could have used the same computer!
- Personaly, I’d be wondering myself if I bought a “latest” product on 3,5″ floppies. Actually the bigger Linux-Distributions (whose product come with the latest version of the X-Server, a graphical frontend equivalent to your Windows 2003) do come on a DVD. By the way: a MS Windows does not need to be on a DVD, since a normal CD provides more than enough space. But Linux uses the space a DVD provides, because it comes with hundrets of FREE programs… I consider free software as useful, but one might think otherwise..
- “Note in yellow the Linux “equivalent” to Microsoft’s Outlook.” Ehm.. looks like Microsoft used my calender on the wall as their template! Or do you, dear Tristan, have a visually complete different schedule?
- “Is this really the best that Linux had to offer?……” Ehm, yes, back in 1996 it was something of the best Linux had to offer. But considering this fact, Windows 95 should be the OS in your test! [Source used: http://radawana.cg.tuwien.ac.at/mail-archives/lll/199607/msg00389.html, found with google: "redhat linux 3.0"]
- Software: hehe, FireFox is the new one, Netscape Navigator the old. However I’d like to ask: Who volonteerely installs SPYware (BonziBuddy) on his computer ? Yes! Right! Windows-user; simply because it hardly exists for linux. And this is after all a pro again.
- “it was gratifying that the makers of Windows software have the freedom to innovate” .. just read my second point.
- Could you please explain the link betwen the “surreal experience” and linux?
- Yes, absolutely right, Linux is designed for the more “demanding” users. Osama must be smarter than lots of people, or just more interested in computers! Ah, and by the way: did you know that YOUR army uses Linux aswell? (Source used: http://www.army.mil)
- Today, Microsoft doesn’t provide support for Windows 95 either.
- “It’s an absurd to suggest that great companies like Google and IBM might have had anything at all to do with this mess.” Did you know that Google is planing it’s own Linux! Read: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/
Thanx four your answer!
Regards from a Swiss who’s been to the USA, Germany, France, the UK and even other countries,
Marc
[emails are welcome aswell: contact{at}maerci.com]
p.s. Microsoft “bought” the ideas of the window-bases system and the mouse from Apple..
pp.s. sorry, my English orthography isn’t the best, but I prefer beeing able to lead conversations in six languages fluently to writing a - for me foreign - language perfect.
I have carefully read “Linux: A European threat to our computers” and ” Linux and Windows Compared: The Facts”. I have also studied in depth all, thats every one of, the 516 comments posted at this time.
The conclusion is deeply disturbing and incredibly difficult to come to terms with. But it is with proud patriotism and humble prayer that I plainly state the sinister subtext found in these writings.
Shelley and Tristan are advanced Linux Users.
Try the Xandos Linux Available on Ebay for $0.99 plus shipping.It is very good.
Some of the comments you recieved were very mean. Not Christian at all.
Check my Blogspot: http://www.dymoke.blogspot.com/
Howard
You think Windowns looks better than Linux?
You need glasses :-)
Tristan,
you made my day when I read your post from 4/20/2006 - Linux: A European threat to our computers (by Tristan)
and yet again you made me chuckle … keep contributing here :-)
and btw. it looks like U.S. Federal Aviation thinks different of Linux :-P http://www.redhat.com/rhel/informationcenter/successstories/government/faa.html
It’s a very old Linux that you have there, just check out the latest Ubuntu or Mandriva and you’ll see a big difference… And Netscape isnt a navigator from Firefox, actually, Firefox is a Netscape based navigator, wich is a LOT better than IE. Did you know that your so-called “fabulous” Active X is the cause of most securtiy issues of IE?
Have a nice day, iditot.
@tristen, how much were you paid as an IT manager? I truely wish to follow in your role. Hopefully the money will be better as I’m more qualified in my google diplomas. Equally I’m also good at making up things.
For more information in my expertise please see
http://www.ubuntu.com/
http://www.deviantart.com/view/28688856/ - Some awful linux desktops I found
http://www.deviantart.com/view/29001499/ - Hideous isnt it?
I cant believe they make stuff look like that… tsk
Tristan & Shelley, you two seem to be two god-fearing honest USA citizens.
In that spirit and to help humankind as a whole, i urge you to consider chemical sterilization
you REALLY shouldnt propage those genes. BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
priceless!
(especially the comments!)
Quite interesting reading.
I certainly hope that some day you’ll learn the values of tolerance, acceptance, and openmindness.
Why so much hatred? Is that christian?
I am still not sure if you are being sarcastic. Are you?
Well, I guess this is a joke but I can’t be too sure.
To even compare a AMD Athlon64 2X 3800+ 2 GHz with an Intel Pentium 4 2 GHz with HT is ridicilous. The “3800+” is used to compare the speed with a Pentium 4, so in this case you would have to compare it with a two (since 2X illustrates that the CPU is built with dual cores, almost comparable with two physical CPUs) Intel Pentium 4 @ 3.8 GHz. Even so the AMD is 64 bits, not 32 bits so there will still be quite some difference. And since when do CPU creators ship drivers for their CPUs? :D
I’m also interested in how you got a hold of Red Hat 3.0 since the latest version of Red Hat for personal computers is 9.0 and it’s successor “Fedora” is version 5 (Fedora Core 5), (there is also Red Hat Enterprise for servers where the latest version is 4).
Further more is Red Hat only one of many Linux distributions, where the three most used is Ubuntu, SuSE, Fedora and Mandriva (in that order, according to DistroWatch).
Red Hat also got excellent support for their products if you buy them or purchase a support subscription. But sure, IRC is a great way to get extra (and free) support when you’re stuck.
FreeBSD is not Linux, it’s a UNIX clone, based on AT&T UNIX via the BSD (Berkely Software Distribution) branch through 386BSD, while Linux is written from scratch and inspired by Minix. They got nothing to do with each other. Other examples of BSD operating systems is NetBSD and OpenBSD.
Netscape Navigator is not and have never been a product made by Firefox, as Firefox is not a company, but a software created by Mozilla Foundation (Mozilla is also the name of one of their software) which is the “successor” of Netscape Communications Corporation. And by the way, Firefox’ support for World Wide Web Consortium’s standards for HTML and CSS than Internet Explorer and it will always be this way unless Microsoft some day wakes up and quit ignoring current standards and stop creating their own standards instead.
I use Linux on all my computers (with the exception of my server/gateway/firewall which is running OpenBSD) and I love using it. In Linux I feel free, where as in Windows I feel like I’m being caged. Windows is asuming too much, making decisions for me which is incorrect most of the time. I’m not saying everyone feels like this, if Windows is the right choice for you then I won’t stand in your way. But from these blogs i either get the feeling that you hate everything without the name “Microsoft” in it or want to crack a good joke, which you have succeeded in doing flawlessly, and I can only thank you for the laughs I’ve been given. If neither of these are the case then you really need to do your homework because no one can miss that much information and facts.
So with this I thank you for your time and I once again express my hope for this to be a big joke. :)
and the oscar for best comedian goes to…..
im defintely not reading this another M$ glorification from some person who knows unix/linux/GNU only from postcards and from M$ apocalyptic movies. GG stop smoking that stuff man.
Heheheh great article ! Enjoyed it very much. I especially enjoy the comments. You have a boatload full of them now.
Is this a parody of rightwing americans or is this for real. Either way, fab.
Tristan you really don’t know anything about computers, seems that anybody can be ms certified.
1) BSD is not Linux
2) microsoft did not invent modern personal computer, ibm did it
3) microsoft did not invent internet, universities/army
4) microsoft did not invent www, cern
5) netscape is not browser from firefox, firefox is browser developed by mozilla foundation
6) huge amounts of attacks come through that great activex components
7) redhat el is not intended for desktop
8) even this blog uses linux as os
… and more
I expect you will test some modern linux desktop (ubuntu, fedora, suse) and you’ll apologize for nonsenses witten here. Trouble is that you _don’t want_ to learn how linux works. You expect that your knowledge of windows is enough. I think you are even unable to read data from cd under linux - you will probaly search some letter of disk, right?
… and more
How can I get my Linux to get these nice pictures as in the wonderfull example? I only have text on my SUSE Linux 10.0.
http://cache.novell.com/cached/xglrelease/transparency.mpg
http://cache.novell.com/cached/xglrelease/zoom-windows.mpg
http://cache.novell.com/cached/xglrelease/desktoporg.mpg
http://cache.novell.com/cached/xglrelease/desktopspin.mpg
Just some examples of what I have to endure everyday.
Review has no credibility. Comparing an old version of an OS to a new one is just being stupid.
ActiveX is old, and obsolete. It’s about to be replaced because of it’s incompatibility to anything.
All IRC Channels are like that. If you’re too dumb to use them, then don’t.
DRM is the worse thing ever invented. Even artists are speaking up against it. Read the news.
Hmm…
I just have to ask: what have you smoked lately?
Giving such rants about Linux in the year 2006 just makes me ask you, what the f*** is wrong with you?
Believeing that America is still numbero uno, and that every thing else is crap blatantly of you!
What’s wrong with Europe?
(Sorry I had to use some strong words, but I had to. You are so ignorant to everything not American, still thinking you are the best)
And may God continue to bless Europe!
you’ve got serious problems dude!
wake up for life.
You’ve got to tell me, how the hell have you have found that red hat 3 was one of the latest linux distribution?
do yourself a favor shut up!
Mozilla makes Netscape’s browser?
Tristan,
I also have an MCSE (along with an RHCE and an A+ cert plus a degree in CIS from Purdue) not to mention i’m currently employed by the U.S. government as a LAN admin and have been in the feild for 10 years now. frankly, i’m not surprised that your a “former” IT manager because if that’s what you call a benchmark report i’d be afraid to find out waht your were handing in as completed projects for your job. I’d fire you if you were under me and gave me that kind of work as a project.
My gut tells me that your credentials and experience are made up to support your credibility because your technical knowledge and ability demonstrated in both articles is pathetic. I have 20 year-old working under me that have a better grasp of the subject matter.
Why don’t you try some more mature distros of Linux and maybe use it as a server and benchmark performance over time instead of basing it on just the installation and end user desktop experience of one flavor of Linux. of course that would require you to actually learn how to install and use linux and not just screw around with it in your basement.
If i were you, I’d stick to IT support for your prayer group and go back to school and this time learn something.
I do have to give you one point of credit trippy screensavers ARE great fun to watch on acid!
Tristan, you are amazing.
Have you considered a career in humor?
A talent like that is rare. The level of sarcasm is so high it got everyone confused.
Keep up the good work!
Stephen Colbert would be proud of this website. I think you should try to get on his show. Perhaps do a technology segment. It would be glorious.
You Sir, are a cock of the highest order!
Are you by chance mentally retarded?
And Shelly;
This is not true*** and it is no “BS”. The article is carefully researched by Tristan and I have no reason to doubt it complete truthfullness!
God bless America!
Shelley
You my dear are clearly Delusional, i would suggest that you dis-associate yourself from this mindless moron.
And “God bless America!”, what the f**k is that all about? Did you really need to add that?
Wht do you think God (If he exists) would bless such a shitty, twisted, power-hungry country such as America?
Exactly…
Linux users be damned! For they rever the well-known pinguin as a true god and its prophet Richard Mathiew Stallman. They don’t go to church for their prayers; instead, they utter obscure and obfuscated orations in front of their computers. I’ve heard a friend say, he knew linux users who wanted to “overtake the world” in a kind of evil competition with dangerous Muslim fundamentalists. Did you know that the symbol (or trade mark, but I doubt these commies would even accept such concept) of a related system (open BSD) is a devil? It is high time that the heathens were denied access to web, so you should learn how to produce home pages that can only be viewed with decent software that respect the industrial and intellectual properties. There are techniques for it, just use explorer-specific codes!
Post-scriptum: FWIW, you seem to have less experience with pot than with a linux install, for the former doesn’t give you hallucinations in a normal use. I’d be glad to mail you some so that you can give us a more accurate account on that matter.
I have got to say that this BLOG is a pure example of the brilliant comedic arts.
You really must be a democrat ‘liberal’ (oh how you misuse the term in the states)
If I didn’t know better I’d say you were John Clease…
Sir Clive Wolfe.
“But I think it’s too bad that this one is an overt fake, even though some people (as the comments here clearly show) are going to believe you are actually believing what you are writing , that being that brainless, hopeless and cluess is actually possible. (Well, it probably and unfortunately *is* possible, but not in your case, IMHO) For example, the screenshot of shelleytherepublican.com being rendered in netscape is too obviously faked to be believable (that or that old version of netscape is really worse than I would have thought…)”
Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. I made that screenshot of Netscape myself. Perhaps you should download it yourself and try. Is it my fault that Mozilla’s Netscape is a really bad web browser? Please state why you believe it is a fake other than your own ignorance.
I gave Linux a fair shot. It’s not my fault that it isnt ready for the desktop!
Hahaha
I’m a bit supprised that RedHat 3.0 even worked ( At least the X bit )
Linux Sucks Ducks cloaca’s
You can take you ultra right wing, highly biased, utterly ignorant views and shove them up your ass.
Once you’ve done that, there should still be plenty of room so take your creation theory, Linux reviews, homophobia and racism and cram them up there too.
I’m an English liberal atheist. I regularly drink myself stupid. Occasionally I smoke marijuana. I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥m your worst enemy. I believe in common sense. I don’t believe in pushing my beliefs down everyone’s throats, but I will criticize you. You want to know why? Because I’m 15, and if I can laugh at what you’ve written then just imagine what far more intelligent people than I are doing.
As for this review, associating Linux with drugs is not fooling anyone.
I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥m also interested to know how you got that certificate you waved at us, and still managed to dredge up the tripe you have here.
Finally, I need a laugh, so please express your views on violent video games. I want you to email me this with your signature at the bottom to jamie.waters@ntlworld.com. I want to be able to utterly crush you, to shut you up, to prove that you have nothing but complete nonsense on this blog.
Rule, Britannia, rule the waves;
Britons never will be slaves.
That linux is… really old
Look at mine for god’s sake (fedora core)
http://invader02.googlepages.com/Screenshot.png
They also support AMD’s 64 bit…
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora
x86_64 is AMD’s architexture. Even if it wasn’t supported, AMD should’ve run the really old Red Hat anyway.
- The European Organization for Nuclear Research, commonly known as CERN, is the world’s largest particle physics laboratory[...] It is also known for being the birthplace of the World Wide Web.
This taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cern
- Red Hat 9 is the last version of Red Hat Linux
- I was reading the RedHat website and get this: the FAA is using Linux!
https://www.redhat.com/rhel/informationcenter/successstories/government/faa.html
In conclusion, Tristan you are an IT manager of what? solitaire?
I feel sick.
This post is beyond absurd.
dude, i love u
theres nothing I hate more than these fucking liberals
i cant stand people who hate america, the single greatest country to exist in history
great site
I love the “I’ve graduated as a MCSE”.
Apart from the MCP its the lowest Microsoft Cert avaliable.
Secondly god help any company that has an IT manager who only has a MCSE under his belt.
Good laugh. If this isn’t a piss take god help you.
Ghostz.
I am sure you will agree that I am exceptionally qualified to speak on this subject.
No you are not, you moron.
Being an IT in Redneckville, Backtown USA and having a couple of MS certifications in Powerpoint doesn’t give you any knowledge whatsoever in operating systems design.
You probably can’t even read since you didn’t even get the latest RedHat version right - a simple logon to the site (https://www.redhat.com/apps/download/) would tell you that it’s up to 9.0 and now the Enterprise version.
Man! You are such a moron
alright, I’ve read this blog for a couple days, not sure if it’s a joke or not. I’m still not sure about Shelley, but this post cannot possibly be anything other than a joke.
The quotes that tipped me off that this is either written by a 12 year-old or a joke or both:
“…the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web”
“We would have liked to test Linux on an Athlon as well, however AMD would not provide us with a Linux driver CD; In any case both of these chips were approximately equal in power because the Intel chip had has ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Hyperthreading???.”
“We had been told that the newest version of RedHat Linux was version 3.0, which for a ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?flagship??? product was surprisingly hard to find.” [RedHat Linux was discontinued 2 years ago, after version 9. Version 3 was from ~1995]
“…we were able to install the latest version of Netscape Navigator, the new browser from Firefox”
“There were no additional passwords to type in and as an additional courtesy to users, Windows installers often include extra programs that might be of interest.”
“It’s an absurd to suggest that great companies like Google and IBM might have had anything at all to do with this mess.”
Tristan, I salute for some of the best satire on the web.
Shelley, if you’re not in on this, you might want to reconsider letting this stuff be posted. It’s humor at your expense, and as funny as it is, I think you’re funny enough by yourself.
I think this article cost Tristan his, almost sure, place in heaven.
Dutchilly
How can you own a certificate from Microsh*t without knowing where to find newest Linux ???
While snapshooting images from 2 or 3 different Linux versions for the shit you tell people and downloading “BonziBuddy” which is declared free SPYWARE…
http://www.spywareguide.com/product_show.php?id=512
So YOU own a certificate from MS ???
And you still don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t know that the “mouse”, the “windows” and nearly everything about windows is just bought up or stolen from other companies ???
While youre “god bless him Bill Gates” was laughing about “mouse and windows” OTHERS invented, what he stole after…
And YOURE still owning a certificate from MS ???
While not knowing that Linux means “FREEWARE” maybe you should “DOWNLOAD” the actual version of it, before testing 10 year old software ???
And while youre comparing 10 year old software - lets check up LOVELY “windows 1.0″ against lets say “freebsd” and please don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t forget telling me what stability you reached with both systems…
And YOU ARE still owning that certificate ???
And even without that certificate and just a lil?Ǭ¨?Ǭ• mind - you should have seen the dust on that linux hardcover you bought for let me think 2$ it?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s worth - which should have made you thinking…
Anyway - it just shows that thoose certificates make you NOTHING…
And the rest of that page is just - im sorry for youre children that they grow up in this Nazi-behaving (now calling Republicans) Land.
Maybe you just forgot - who shot you on the moon ???
Neil Armstrong ? George Bush ? Ronald Reagan ??? Nasa ???
The Answer is definitivle : “Werher von Braun” which was a “real good old american” inventing the V1 and V2 rocket for Nazi-Germany which most of youre Unique technologies are made of…
History Song (they where laughing before of the sh*t you talking) “Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun” (its in youre language - you could understand)
And now lets see the World at War right now : Iraq - Iran maybe if America likes to - then lets see vietnam? or china? - they may now since youre Bush-Clan changed the laws in YOURE “godblessed” (laughing) country…
YOURE Military tortures, kidnapps, kills and lies all around the planet and you still don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t see - youre just poor people which lost theyre part to reality…Maybe you should check youre mind and see things from other views then youre “one foot view angle”…
YOURE JUST SH*TTALKING - F*CK THE Bush Clan - and youre just that dumb of believling any sh*t YOURE Government is telling you…
P.S. : Check youre sources before you tell shit on any internet page.
P.P.S. : Youre a real good example that a cardriver needs a licence but children could be made by anyone…
P.P.P.S. : Certificates from MS means nothing…
If the newest you could find was Red Hat Linux 3, I guess you never read the fact about windows and linux on the microsoft site you refer to, since all their test is with Red Hat Linux 9.0 (even that is old to).
Wow. This is quite possibly the most intense use of sarcasm I’ve ever encountered. If by the slim chance it’s not, I’m afraid it’s you who needs the help.
I?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•m a gammer, so Windows all the way.
Someone told me that this year is the Linux year…. that was about 5 years ago….
The true ignorant people are the ones who think this is real. This site is a JOKE people. And the joke is on you ignorant anti-whatever (Microsoft, Windows, Republicans, Christians) people.
It’s great that the authors of this site (who most likely are Linux loving, Microsoft hating, liberal nerds) are able to poke fun of their own kind. Bravo!
Onn the basis of his living in Iowa City, Iowa alone, I suspect this is parody. While there are plenty of conservatives in Iowa, you won’t find many of them in Iowa City.
[Quote]Sam Godfriend said…
Linux is nothing else than a weapon against God, G.W. Bush and America. [/Quote]
Now this gets my hopes up. Can it really be true?
Wow… Look at all the people GRENADE!…
Thats all you had to do was post relatively uninteresting, overly verbose rubbish, in a semi-convincing manner, add an occasional reference to a non-descript church, and people fizzed like this?
It suprises me that they believe that their replies can change your mind, as much as it suprises me that you believe your opinion, despite it being carefully designed to, could change theirs.
Your wasted in the IT industry, your talents so obviously destined for the political arena.
Your country needs you! The IT industry doesnt…
Bravo! You make me laugh again. I like your articles and spread they among my friends … the linux users :))))
What kind of IT Pro are you really if you can’t find a recent Linux version?! Didn’t even read the rest of this crap. Next time compare XP to Suse Linux 10 and try to get serious.
You said “This alcoholic has Linux installed on his laptop.”
Do you know that there are drug dealers, killers and also homosexuals that own american Motorola cell phones?
And also there are comunists that use Microsoft Office?
Gee!!! A european once said “Only two things are infinite: universe and human stupidity”. His name was Albert Einstein. Was he talking about you?
Einstein must’ve been, because he was a dirty ol’ socialist, that Einstein guy.
I take it Shelley also boycots the general theory of relativity?
Tristan Shuddery wrote :
Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. I made that screenshot of Netscape myself. Perhaps you should download it yourself and try. Is it my fault that Mozilla’s Netscape is a really bad web browser? Please state why you believe it is a fake other than your own ignorance.
I must admit I added this line about the netscape screenshot at the last time, and kinda regretted posting it.
It isn’t really good an example, and is perhaps not as obvious as I thought when I read the article (But hell, I was quite tired at that time, even though I was not high)
But anyway I didn’t (and still don’t) want to rant about all the blatant innacuracies and lies in your article, as many people did (perhaps having knee-jerk reaction every time someone writes bullshit about linux or wanting to show their better knowledge, or just wanting to educate the ignorant masses that with no doubt crowd that blog). But I think it’s plain useless, either this being serious or being a joke.
As for my alleged ignorance… I unfortunately do know what I’m talking about. I know linux well enough to really have a good laugh at this article, and to really appreciate its utter absurdity.
Jambo!
ROTFLMAO! What’s even funnier is the number of people who can’t follow the various statements for long enough to see the self-referential parody!
Hey folks! When a plush penguin with a handle of beer is introduced as an alcoholic with Linux on his laptop, and you don’t see that … ! OMIGOD! And Claria as an extra utility!
At the rate you’re going, Shelley, and Tristan, you won’t have a God-fearing America, you’ll have an America-fearing God!
Mjinga Wawa (From Kano city and Zanzibar)
Hello,
chmod 666 Tristan
:)
Tristan Shuddery wrote :
Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. I made that screenshot of Netscape myself. Perhaps you should download it yourself and try. Is it my fault that Mozilla’s Netscape is a really bad web browser? Please state why you believe it is a fake other than your own ignorance.
Where the hell did you manage to download such an old version of netscape anyway ??? bizarre
The latest version of it is version 8.1 you can get it here: http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/
Is it really so difficult to tytpe http://www.netscape.com in your browser? Then again I’m not suprised you find the internet difficult to deal with judging from your’s and shelley’s mindless, bigoted, racist, homophobic other ‘articles’
for your info your site looks like this in netscape 8.1 http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2186/shelleynetscape5ks.jpg
Ans like this in firefox 1.5.0.2 (lastest version)http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9436/shelleyfirefox7xg.jpg
And like this in IE http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2006/shelleyie6xx.jpg
All look pretty similar dont they…only difference being IE is sooooooo slow, unstable, crashes all the time and years out of date. Firefox is very very fast, secure, never crashes and no pop-ups
the first linux article was much more fun!!! so for the next one, please more pseudoreligious and polemic stuff .. not boring “facts” :)
if you had taken your time to actually find another distro (like debian, ubuntu, or about any other), and a newer version (not a 10 year old version like you chose), you would have found both a better GUI and a included internet browser…
and
Cool I didn’t know that Linux looked so beautiful in the year 1994 :>. I read 1/4 of the articel and I almost gave up on the world. But the articel is getting funnier with every line I read so i guess im going to read it.:>
Hi Tristan
I am student of information technologies from Slovakia in Middle Europe.
I use Linux 2 years and have no problem with it.
Linux what you install is very,very,very old from 1996-7.
I look to your images and see 25Mb that you have 25MB ram in your Intel 2GHZ machine is it true??I really thing that you are lair.You post here very very old images and use very very old linux distro only because you manipulating with people who reds this blog.Somebody who is MCP hae to know such things like what is liux,unix etc..
Your blog is something like propaganda made to Microsoft(MS) looks better as they are. That site with no styles on it is badly coded and don’t respects standards ,MS use it’s own standard but it;s not correct :).Active X is security miss feature,many many exploits and virusses use these “feature” to get into your computer and get your private data.If you surf internet with active X enabled you are hazarding with your datas.
For your information Linux is widely used server operating system,IBM,SUN,HP supports linux on their servers.
Unix was born in AT&T and become predecessor Solaris,*BSD,AIX,MACOS X,Linux.FreeBSD is not linux distributon but it is derivate of UNIX from Berkley University.
Regards
Thanks Tristan,
You’ve shown that Americans really do understand satire! In one post you’ve satired Linux, MCSEs, Windows and user’s natural ability to install pointless spyware!
Congratulations on a hilarious post!
Maybe you should really look at what a linux desktop really look: http://www.ubuntu.com/screenshots
Being a microsoft certified engineer does not makes you qualified to speak about linux even if you think so, you seem to consider linux as a copy of windows but this is a really different system and you need to learn how to use it not just take what you know under windows and try to do the same thing under linux.
You are so right! God thanks there are still so beautiful people left. You are the ones who will save the world. Ilove you.
Use an updated version of linux if you want to be serious. You’re not being fair and this can be accounted as a sin.
sinner!
I loved this article. It flipped me from thinking this blog is written by a right-wing racial bigot ignorant faithboy to thinking it is written by someone with at least a sense of humor which is nice.
This was the clincher:
“When we opened the shrink-wrap box we were astounded to find that it contained a large set of floppy-disks. I cannot imagine what Redhat were thinking in this age of DVDs; still this would be a step up from the magnetic-tapes upon which FreeBSD is normally supplied (Free BSD is an older kind of Linux).”
Let me reiterate: I think this is a brilliant joke. If not, god help America, because no-one else will.
And then there is the evil Fox News http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.foxnews.com
Time for Africa to have a say:
Scenario 1: You are joking
Thank you very much for this (and the previous) article about Linux! It is funny beyond description. Have you ever considered becoming a standup comedian? Its almost as good as the story about the city of Tuttle IT manager who confused the Apache default page on a Centos server for a hacking attempt!
Scenario 2: You are serious
Get a life! Try and catch up to what is happening in the world of IT. Read some IT magazines. Hell, ask the 15 year old snotfaced kid from nextdoor to show you the difference between Linux and Windows. Make sure about the facts before you make an ass out of yourself before millions of ppl. Good God! A primary school kid kan do better research than you! I am embarressed for your sake! It’s like watching a retard play with shit because he thinks its play-dough! And then to make Linux users out as sinners? How naive can you get?! Are you Amish or something? Shelley: pull your head out of Bush’s ass. Tristan: pull your head out of Steve Ballmer’s ass. (BTW: referring to Steve Ballmer as an “expert” from M$ was the funniest part of the original article)
Cape Town
South Africa
Registered Linux User #356674
All i needed to read from that article was that your an ex IT manager and an MCSE, your officially one of the most usless people in the IT industry and can’t be taken seriously when it comes to technical issues.
For being vice-president on a IT-department I expected more knowledge regarding linux and how it works in addition to Windows. Even my younger brothers (13 and 16) seems to understand the way of installing Linux better then you do. Im not sure I can trust your vice-president position at all.
Outstanding text to read, I have never laughed so hard from a text like yours.
I m shocked by your terrible lies, you are not even ashamed to say, the “typical linux desktop” you display is old, as old as windows 3.x. Now, GNU/Linux, is modern, it’s beatiful, see the linux screenshot gallery
This is someone’s idea of a joke right?
I can’t believe that someone can seriously be this incredibly stupid and biased towards windows and the like.
thank you!! i had never laughed that much in my entire life!!..really!
I’m sure tristan had a tough one looking for the oldest version of redhat available, and using programs that even the bigest fan of Linux could’t use… I mean… Netscape?? who use it? XD XD
however, this site is giving more publicity to linux and opensource, i really don’t think anyone could believe any of the “facts” on this site, matter in fact the whole web comes here just to laugh of you.
http://www.opensuse.org
See…I found this on a “drinking-beer-and-smoking-pot” day. One of those days that look eternal… still, I thought I was alucinating ‘cuz of what I’ve read. Then I thought “I’ll just find that again and see if it’s real”
And it is…
…
Sad isn’t it?
Today I’m “clean” of alcohol or drugs, and still I find this f****** website surreal. Why? Just ‘cuz… WTF??? What do u guys mean with that shitty “Oh-my-God-If-it’s-not-american-it’s-not-good”?? Let me tell u something for u to remember, U WOULDN’T KNOW HOW TO READ IF THE BRITISH HAD NOT CONQUERED U!! U would be just some american natives praying to the rain god. I have nothing against other cultures, but u seem too. I bet u two would love to have a dictator. not that g.w.bush is far from that..
oh well… i’m not writing to explain to u again why u’r so wrong about Linux (I’m posting this with a Linux OS and Firefox),it would be worthless, I’m just saying how stupid u r.
1st-> U ignorants, the world wide web belongs to everyone, not just the americans. doesn’t mather who created it, it belongs to the world as the name says.
2nd-> “I would give all the money to my local church”…… If some bigger idiot than u paid for this, u would just be to anxious to get ur paws on the money. u wouldn’t just give it away. unless u were just some milionaire teen with nothing to do.
I laught a bit ‘cuz of this… but I must say… U know nothing about pot allucinations! there’s no colorfull wirlwind “smiling” to u… just a sleeping-feeling like u’r dreaming with the reality.
Farewell, and remember:
Even in Portugal are better leaders than G.W.Bush. I know, I’m Deutch, living in Portugal.
I have already read your deliriums about mozilla Nestscape….
How old is the latest IE version ? 2001
Does Firefox feature a download manager ?
Aren’t you obliged with IE to open a lot of widows to browse several site ?
Does IE block ads ?
Can you easily debug a Javascript iw M$ browser ?
Does IE report the syntex error is CSS ?
To conclude, I am French (and proud of it), I study computing and I can’t bear when ignorant people tell lies about good free software, I use everyday ( God knowshow they’re useful ), and say freedom is hell. You know yourself how you should be ashaed of telling lies, remember you can lie to men, not to God.
He said he’s a Microsoft engineer, thus he could actually be THAT stupid! :lol:
I bet this moron does not even know the difference between Linux and GNU/Linux.
what?
windows is better than linux?
hope you pc will be hacked by someone.
god bless your pc
alexander t.
(german dpd(gay,atheist))
Shelley and Tristan
Please send me ten pounds of the stuff that you are smoking. It is obviously good stuff!
Microsoft vs Linux
Before I start with my comparison of Microsoft to linux I would like to share my credentials with you. I saw a computer in a store once back in 1992 and owned one just before the y2k epidemic hit. Ok, now that that is out of the way, let me start with saying that it was very hard to find the newest version of Microsoft. I was able to finally locate a product called Windows 3.1. I was surprised that it came on floppies. Any distro of linux comes on at least CD’s. I referred to my PC for Dummies which we all know is the most trusted book being published. I set up one computer with a P3 and another with a Athlon 64 3800+.
I must say that I was amazed at how hard it was to install Windows 3.1 on the p3 machine. There was virtually no driver support and it didnt even come with a browser. I called microsoft ask for support on this issue and they were very rude and told me they would not help. I dont understand since this is a brand new product.
The install of Fedora Core 5 went much smoother on the Athlon 64 3800+ machine. I only had to answer a few prompts and it did everything else. The desktop was much nicer looking than windows 3.1. And had a browser, oofice suite, audio/video editing software, games, and much more already installed for free!
I also like to add that Hitler himself use Windows and that means if you use it to you will go to hell.
Tristan, this is how your article sounds to people with actual knowledge of the IT industry. Your ignorance is the reason why people hate America(Yes I am a US citzen). And shelly please stop using the http://WWW.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA… Redhat 3.0 is the newest??? HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
your a blind follower to your own ass!!! to many of you in this world… cant u just die, and let the rest of the world live there lives HOW THEY WANT TO!!!!!!!!!
Now I know why you are a Microsoft Certified Enginer.
I’m 17 and I know how to use Linux and I’ using it while I’m writing this.
“RedHat Linux was version 3.0, which for a ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?flagship??? product was surprisingly hard to find.”
You never considered http://www.redhat.com ? lol
You Really are a nerd, and full of pure american shite!!!!!!!
To quote your article:
” I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.”
You can honestly say that, and claim to be an IT manager?
Doesn’t the fact that the DoD (Department of Defense) originally invented the ‘net ring any bells? Besides your worthless MSCE, do you have say a CISCO or Net+ cert? I very, VERY highly doubt it.
It’s idiots like you that prevent future expansion of great open source products.
Yes, the software industry is a multi-billion dollar operation, and is WORLD WIDE. It isn’t an American market anymore. Being the good religious person you are, you should be the first to acknowledge that uniting the world under one goal would be a good thing.
BUT OH MY GOD THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!
Please.
I really, really doubt if you know anything about the rise of the Personal computer industry. There have been a series of very good TV programmes in the USA about it, called “Triumph Of The Nerds” (they made later a TV movie and DVD about it “Pirates Of Silicon Valley) which paints the true story about how Steve Jobs from Apple stole the idea for a GUI (Graphical User Interface) from Rank Xerox while Bill Gates stole it from Steve Jobs. BTW Microsoft bought DOS for $ 50,000 because they had no ideas for a more or less stable OS. Linux was developed from Minix, a Dutch mini OS made out of Unix and Unix is as American as you can get them! Computer Operating Systems don’t haver anything to do with Christian of non Christian, even more, me as confessing Christian am ashamed for someone as you who as confessing christian try do paint an Operating System as a devilish tool. While a organisation which tries to strangle all kind of software competition in the world, by stealing and buying other’s software and buying off their lawsuits and which is convicted as monopolist, is put by you on a pedestal! Moreover I am ashamed of all the rubbish you talk about OSses while there is so much really bad stuff going on in the world some done by terrorist, others by well meaning American influence.
Just a few notes in no particular order:
1. I’m not sure why anyone would want to intentionally install spyware like Bonzi Buddy. It doesn’t work on Linux because the folks at Bonzi want people who don’t understand the true nature of the product to use it. Most Linux users learn the details of the software they install.
2. There are distributions of Linux that have been using the 64-bit capabilities of the AMD processors since they became available. Microsoft was supposed to release something this year that adds a 64-bit appendage to their 32-bit Windows XP, rather than rebuilding to make it work properly.
3. Red Hat 3.0 is a dinosaur, it’s Fedora Core 3.0 that you should have been looking for, and it’s still not the latest or the greatest Linux has to offer. Try SuSE 10.0 it’s far better, more polished, and includes some great software to beat nearly anything Microsoft has to offer.
4. Why look to AMD for drivers? Since when do you go to the CPU manufacturer for CPU drivers? Everything you need to run Linux is provided by the Linux community, since most hardware vendors do not provide drivers for Linux (many of them don’t provide Windows drivers either).
5. Linux is an Operating System, not a political system. If it were, I would still choose the so-called “communist” Linux over the “evil empire” of Windows. I would rather have the freedom of self-regulated social interaction (like Linux) than the oppressive feudalistic repression (like Windows).
6. Why should I choose to support a company that rips off the people it says it’s working for, rather than choosing the freely-distributed, non-corporate option? I prefer to support the software I like, rather than paying (a lot of money) for the software I have absolutely no use for.
Just thought I’d throw that mess in there. Practically every point made in the actual article seems uninformed, baseless, and generally stupid. I thought I’d add some real information here in case anyone wanted to read this far.
Word is out on the street that European and Asian car makers are working together to take over the US brands. Can we expect killer cars (Christine?) in the near future on route 66?
This is the funniest thing I’ve read all day. Great sense of humor and writing skills.
I so totally agree with you. You are right!! Anything American is better than old-Continent stuff. You don’t really need arguments; it’s a generally accepted fact. More like a law of nature. So of course, the billion-dollar making Microsoft is better than the free Linux. I also think that bottled water is better than clear mountain-spring water since you don’t pay for that. And an analysis of mine has shown that you can get your hands wet if you drink water out of a mountain spring whereas using bottled water seems so much more cultivated. Way to go!
i worked with linux once and i can tell ya: NEVER AGAIN!!!
i tried to install a modem driver on suse linux 7.5.. OH MY HOLY CRAP! it virtually impossible! I hated it. I turned away from linux and never looked back.
why would I need it anyway? there are good systems as it is. i am using the mac os now and it’s great!
An idiot is just an idiot.
An educated idiot, though, can be dangerous.
I have found that the general atmosphere in this website is that of which certain short-sighted and narrow minded people express their views, and they get a plethora of counter-attacks, orthological, and of course in complete accordance with reality. I am a european, and I just can’t believe how much fear you have expressed. God exists, I know, but yet you do not follow him. You don’t consider yourself as equal to the rest, which shows that you dread comparison. There needn’t be a comparison, everyone has a place in this world. But, wasted typing I fear, because you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. I bet you have never been abroad, as George Bush before presidency, a puppet of unseen hands quietly playing his part. Oh, and having different partys in a country is totally normal - at least for the rest of the world. BROADEN YOUR MINDS, TRAVEL A BIT, because right now you have the political maturity of an 8-year old.
Shelley. Tristan is taking your ass for a ride. Does it feel nice? Maybe you should do some research before you let some random joker pork you. This is the most hilarious stuff I’ve read in a long time! I AM an IT manager, unlike Tristan, who is an professional retard (or excellent comedian). Keep up the good work! By the way, I work for your US Army, and all of our training simulators run on Linux! Sweet Jesus, I can’t stop laughing…
BTW, did anyone tell you that there’s no such thing as a “Microsoft Certificate of Excellence”? :P
my dear god… redhat 3? where did you get that? And how come do you call it the latest version.. come on!
Check http://www.centos.org download the latest Enterprise Linux version, 4 at this time, and install it. You are comparing a 10 years old OS with your favourite windows.. get a life!!
Try to be a little bit more accurate.. BTW, why dont you compare win 3.11 with centos 4? or ubuntu? You wont because you are comparing two OSes far away in time…
At least spread the truth. The whole truth.
I want you to know, that you’re just sinking into a deeper hole of ignorance, Triston. Nevermind the fact that you’re placing this on a filth/hate filled blog. You should know that the GUI that you’re posting about is so old, you probably couldn’t find someone who still runs it (but microsoft has plenty of 95 users out there rgiht?).
You’re ignorant.
oh my god… have yo ever seen “evolution” or “thunderbird”, those are the real e-mail clients for linux, and guess what…. they’re the best. I am against chavez policy here in Venezuela, but you people make me think that maybe he is rigth about everithing he says about you, You need to read and study before you post lies on line. Linux is not made for terror!. This blog is hosted in a linux server and the owner did’t know, that’s sad. Did you know that Microsoft uses linux as firewalls to protected them from their own O.S.?. that’s a TRUE fact!
As for the geeks who are getting irate, don’t they realize this is a JOKE.
For a start, bonzibuddy is referred to as productivity and the foistware it comes with as a bonus… i think that’s obvious, if not the fact that red hat 3.0 was used, when the world is raving about ubuntu, etc.
theres many more subtler points, if you’d like me to point them out, this is an excellent piece of satire.
-MJG
Tristan, this, and the previous article are some of the best satire I’ve read in a while.
Almost as funny are the linux zealots’ knee-jerk replies.
I don’t use linux much myself, I use KDE and Firefox and OpenOffice. Linux is somewhere in the background but I don’t see it.
Someone could replace my kernel with BSD or Solaris overnight, and as long as KDE and all userland apps remained intact I wouldn’t notice the difference and wouldn’t care. Anyway, I digress. Keep writing satire and God bless America!
Yuri de Groot
New Zealand
(Yuri’s Law:
As an online discussion about computers or IT continues, the probability of an analogy comparing computers or software to cars approaches one.)
What a load of rubbish!
I to am Certified by Microsoft and I find it very frustrating having to use the no brainer tools supplied by MS to do the simplest of tasks.
An example.
We wanted to add a wildcard dns entry to our dns servers.
On the linux dns server all I had to do was open the zone file in a text editor, add the wildcard entry, save the file and make bind re-read the file. Time taken 60s.
On our windows dns - soon to be replaced - Open regedit, change the registry to allow wildcarding, close regedit - reboot. Open the management console, add a new entry to the dns zone file (not a wildcard entry), close mangement console, restart dns, open zone file in notepad, change entry to wildcard, save file, restart dns. Time taken 10 mins.
I was once a microsoft fan - no longer. Too expensive, too buggy, too many missed deadlines (Vista now Q2 2007 or later!!!) and too many security holes.
One other thing, the prerequisite for writing a critique on a subject is a small amount of knowledge about that subject - not just mindless propoganda.
Goebels is alive and well, living in Iowa City.
not to be blunt, but your a shithole
all political bias aside,
maybe you should try using two different OS’s you’ve never used before. of course linux wont be as easy if you’ve never used it before. of course xp will seem easier if you’ve been using it your whole life
also, linux’s goal is not solely ease of use, but making a computer that doesn’t crash, and is more secure than alternatives
it also doesnt have to restart after every program install, nor for updates
and that guy up there who said use mac- surprise! mac is kinda like a pretty linux
nothing against mac tho, but i’d rather have a free OS
I’m really hung over today, and as such, missed the the fact that you were joking.
How sad the world is when one could think you were serious.
Well done by the way.
Hilarious.
I work for Bill Gates.
So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.
Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.
But trust me?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?. You don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t.
I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t know what you are talking about.
This is how bad info gets passed around.
If you dont know about the topic?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?.Don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t make yourself sound like you do.
?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Cuz some people belive anything they hear.
Wow. Tristan has absolutely no idea what Linux is or where it comes from. First of all, Red Hat Linux doesn’t exist anymore. The Fedora Project took them over a while ago. Secondly, I was using Red Hat Linux 7.3 almost 4 years ago. Secondly, FreeBSD is not an older type of Linux. It is a UNIX derivative. UNIX was made by Bell Labs in the 1970s. Also, BSD stands for Berkeley Science Distribution. As in the university. FreeBSD is also not released on magnetic tape disks. That is just ubsurd.
Also, this idiot misreads the term free. When people refer to Linux as “free,” they are speaking about free as in free speech, not as in beer. Also, the nature of Linux makes it more secure than Windows simply because of its inherit security measures. Which Windows lacks sorely. Also, Linux can be completely optimized for your solutions. You can compile whatever features you require into the kernel. This also leads to excorcising the mounds of bulk features you dont require.
Also, installers for Linux are quite user friendly now. Anaconda Installer even offers a more user friendly installer than Windows. Also, because of the awesome advances made to the Xorg server, the visuals and eye candy greatly exceed that of XP. Distributions that focus on useability like Ubuntu, even offer a more user friendly experience than XP. If you require an application to have features you can add them because you look at the code required. To borrow an analogy, image if your aunt had a recipe for a cake and gave it to you and you wanted to change it. You could. But imagine a world where this is impossible, because someone has gone out of their way to forbid you from ever seeing the recipe. Well that person would be alot like Microsoft. And your aunt would be the open source community.
Also, Shelley, I feel obligated to point out that if it werent for Apple’s Mac OS and Linux, Microsoft would have a monopoly on computer software. A monopoly, as a good upstanding American citizen would know is defeatist to the capitalist way. Human knowledge belongs to the world. Not to a select few people. I am sure I don’t have to explain what would happen if one greedy person happened to have control over all medicine. He could inflate prices however he wanted.
And to cap it up, Apple’s Mac OS outperforms Windows even on Intel’s chips and also has an easier learning curve than Windows does to the computer illiterate. I highly advise you erase Tristan’s articles. His “opinions” are only making you look stupid. This site has popped up on many tech forums on the internet. And the general response is laughter. You are being taken for a bunch of ignorant simpletons. Which by reading these articles, is exactly what you are. Do some research before making idiotic posts.
–Alex
dude 15 year olds are smarter than you, you are perhaps the most stupid person since george bush.
MR Tristan, i will not flame you for what you have done, even if it is the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever read from a IT professional, before you downloaded or bought or whatever you have done with redhat… did you go to http://www.distrowatch.com in search for other distributions? such as ubuntu dapper? i guess not, you had to use one of the worst linux distro around, why don’t you compare it to DOS ? lol that would be more interesting, that “yellow thing you said it was like outlook made me laugh my ass out” ever heard of gnome? or KDE? and mozilla firefox? why did u have to use netscape navigator… everyone know’s it’s crap, and by the way… the IRC thingy… made me laugh too, ever heard of google? or public support forums? most if not all of “GOOD” linux distro’s have one and all of them are very helpful and i’m not a c++ coder neither lolol, i still use windows… for gaming which is the only thing i can’t do 100% on linux because when games start to get released to run natively on linux, believe me, some windows users or dual OS users like me, will simply make a “mke2fs -j /dev/hdaX” (u understood me) on one thing i agree with you, some man pages are not very understandable but i can live with that, i always learn my things by myself with little or no help from others, i’ve been using linux since… 1995? 96 maybe, and i think it’s a very good project indeed, oh and another thing … “AMD has not provided drivers for LINUX” ??? omg… where do u live? everyone knows that LINUX doesn’t “need” drivers supplied with the hardware… it’s a modular kernel, that means everything can be included in the kernel itself, or loaded later by user “request” modprobe rules you know?
One more thing… i know another MCSE “MiCrosoft Solitaire Expert” too and he’s like you… he can’t see past “M$ Windows” that’s why he wasn’t chosen for my job lol because he couldn’t “evolve” himself more than M$ thingys… he was just too close minded… so if you Mr Tristan would like to share ideas on M$ and Linux, feel free to add me on MSN devilboy@sapo.pt , and i will not flame you, i’m not a IT professional (didn’t finish my studies lol) i only have High School but i think i’m up to talk to you about linux, because for what i understand… i might know a little more about linux working than you. i’m not writing all this crap to make you change your mind, but to make you know Linux better.
Best Regards
Tiago Peralta aka Devil
Okay, first of all microsoft did not invent the internet, the internet is largly based on TCP/IP which microsoft was the last to support. Also, Red Hat Linux 3 is outdated, if you did so much research why didn’t you go to http://www.redhat.com and see what products they offer now. Red hat 3 is from the early ninties, when microsoft barely had any gui at all, much like red hat. Red Hat now sells enterprise linux, which is new and has a nice gui, no cli at all if you want to avoid it. The reason linux doesnt really support active x is because it is closed source and that is moraaly wrong to use. Go and get a copy of windows 3.1 or 95 and compare those on the same machine, then write a blog about it.
And by the way, a Pentium 4 is not equivalent to an amd X2. Intel has no dual core desktop processor that can hold a candle to an X2. Also, you dont need driver disks for linux, the drivers are built into the kernel, you just have to make sure you are using the correct linux version for the job at hand. I;m actually suprised that RH3 ran on a P4 at all! BTW, the amd X2 is equivalent to a 4.8GHz intel P4 chip, approximately. So, really this is not at all a fair comparison. And dont say that the clock speeds are the same so they are equal, the amd is a true dual core, the intel is a pieced together single core long past its expiry date. And, hyperthreading is nothing, intel doesnt even use it on its new products because it is only useful in certain server related applications,