Linux and Windows Compared: The Facts
Some readers of the ShelleyTheRepublican.com blog complained that my recent critique of the Linux computer program was unfair; They claimed that I was ignorant and therefore unqualified to review their product, moreover they stated that my opinions were biased therefore untrustworthy.
Shelley has given me the opportunity to defend myself; to tell you a little bit about myself and the methodologies I have used to evaluate Windows and Linux. This is also my opportunity to shoot down some of the more fanciful theories that have been proposed in response to my previous warning.
For starters my credentials; I am a former IT manager from a major city in Oklahoma. I am also vice-president of IT for our regional Prayer Team. Some years ago I’m proud to say that I graduated as a Microsoft Certified Engineer; I have a wide understanding of both technical and business computing issues. I am sure you will agree that I am exceptionally qualified to speak on this subject.
As for “bias”, I am not a “Microsoft Fan-boy”? or any of the hundreds of more offensive things I have been called. I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web. Where would we have been without Microsoft? Perhaps typing obscure Russian commands into a barely comprehensible command-prompt on a Chinese made computer.
And as for our methods of evaluation: They are based on exactly the same bench-tests used by PC Magazine, which is the world’s most trusted IT journal. Let me share some of my recent findings:
We prepared two nearly identical machines. The windows “rig” was based on an AMD “Athlon 64 X2″? 2Ghz chip, whereas the Linux machine was based on an Intel “Pentium 4″? 2Ghz. We would have liked to test Linux on an Athlon as well, however AMD would not provide us with a Linux driver CD; In any case both of these chips were approximately equal in power because the Intel chip had has “Hyperthreading”?.
Naturally we tested the latest version of both operating systems. For Windows we chose the 2003 edition, available at almost every computer retailer in our country. Finding the latest version of Linux proved a challenge in itself:
We had been told that the newest version of RedHat Linux was version 3.0, which for a “flagship” product was surprisingly hard to find. When we did locate it, we were astonished to be told that it was “quite old” and that RedHat no longer provided any level of technical support for it.
When we opened the shrink-wrap box we were astounded to find that it contained a large set of floppy-disks. I cannot imagine what Redhat were thinking in this age of DVDs; still this would be a step up from the magnetic-tapes upon which FreeBSD is normally supplied (Free BSD is an older kind of Linux).
This alcoholic has Linux installed on his laptop.
After a number of failures, we managed to take the tedious floppy-disk based installation to it’s conclusion. We could not have been more disappointed. The GUI seemed garish and hard to use. It was a woeful mish-mash of primary colors and clashing visual styles. We had become accustomed to Microsoft’s visual sophistication. The crude Linux desktop was a shock to our poor eyes:
A typical Linux desktop: Note in yellow the Linux “equivalent” to Microsoft’s Outlook.
Is this really the best that Linux had to offer? We decided to gloss over the superficial aspects of the interface and get down to actual usability.
The Linux installation did not include a web-browser, but according to the manual one could be “easily” installed using Linux’s RPM utility. After spending half an hour trying to decode the “man page”, we were able to install the latest version of Netscape Navigator, the new browser from Firefox.
This truly uncompelling start contrasts profoundly with the Windows installation experience. There was no need to download a web-browser for Windows (Microsoft thoughtfully decided to integrate one with their operating system), so instead we downloaded a small shareware productivity utility called “Bonzi Buddy”?.
Most commonly used productivity tools are not available on Linux; For example, this program uses Microsoft Agent technology which has not yet been ported to Linux.
The installation couldn’t have been simpler; The install icon appeared on my desk. All I had to do to install the program was double-click on it. There were no additional passwords to type in and as an additional courtesy to users, Windows installers often include extra programs that might be of interest.
For example, my download included Claria, and Comet-Cursor. A review of these utilities is outside the scope of this article, nonetheless it was gratifying that the makers of Windows software have the freedom to innovate.
The same could not be said for Linux. In the time that it took me to install three great utilities, I had barely managed a single Linux installation. Had it not occurred to the makers of Linux that their users might wish to use the Internet? Installation of some basic software required a complex series of commands and passwords to be entered.
Now what can we say of the Windows browsing experience? Many of you will be familiar with Internet explorer. Millions of Americans have grown accustomed to it’s ease of use, slick presentation and universal compatibility;
But what about Netscape?
This is how the STR site appears to a Linux User. The images are jumbled, the layout appears random.
The experience as you can see was somewhat surreal: Images appeared jumbled fonts were bizarrely out of proportion and the vast majority of websites simply failed to load. I imagine this is how pot-heads must see the world; I suspect that only a pot-head would assume that this is how the rest of the world is supposed to appear!
A Linux user’s view of the world. Hallucinations from excessive use of Linux might be similar to those of LSD or pot.
As expected, this browser lacked many of the basic features that Microsoft’s users take for granted. For example, it was incompatible with “Active X”, an exciting technology from Microsoft that allows “plugins”? to be instantly loaded.
On Windows, these are seamlessly downloaded and installed in the background, usually without causing any interruption to the user; On Linux, a simple browser plugin apparently requires extensive knowledge of the command-shell; Once again, we asked ourselves why Linux users would be willing to put up with this?
Finally we looked at support; Access to technical information is important for any software. Microsoft offered an extensive knowledge base in addition to a commercial, “per incident” based support line. While the support was friendly and expert we felt no need to consult Microsoft. On the other hand, Redhat’s product was baffling from the start.
Lacking any official support channel, we turned to something called ?IRC?? for help. Lacking offices, or immigration visas, many Linux developers often use IRC as a means of communication. We were quite baffled as to how anybody might expect to get any assistance at all, the whole IRC experience resembled a sordid on-line brothel:
The #linux channel, seemed to be a venue of immorality; I would not wish my wife or children to use this service. It appeared to be some sort of pick-up venue.
We soon gave up expecting to find any help at all; I expect that this is what any Linux user who is not fluent in C++ will have to do eventually.
In conclusion; the much hyped combination of Linux and Mozilla’s “Netscape Navigator” does not measure up to Microsoft’s latest offering. While I feel Linux might be applicable to certain niche applications, I for one couldn’t think what that application might be. It certainly is not yet ready for the desktop.
I should hope that dispels some of the more fanciful notions about Linux’s worth to a corporation; It’s an absurd to suggest that great companies like Google and IBM might have had anything at all to do with this mess.
Of course, this review is somewhat incomplete; Linux is defficient in many more ways; For example it does not feature something called Digital Rights Management; It certainly seems that Linux users have chosen to become a 2nd class citizen compared to users of more mainstream operating systems; That too is outside the scope of this review, but please be reassured that we will return to it soon enough.
God Bless You,
Tristan
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I’m not a technician certified by Microsoft, i’m only 17, and i know how to use Linux (and windows). I installed Linux and erased Windows from my computer, on sunday (after going to church).
I don’t want to criticize but … how me, a young user, can use a complicated OS when you, a experienced technician, can’t ?
That’s only objectives facts. You take them the way you want.
But I think it fails you some … obectivty in your test. Two ways to explain that:
- You are really incompetent (i really don’t think so, but i could be)
- You don’t want to understand how linux works
But that is only my point of view. Facts stay here: You, as a technician, do not know how to install a Linux OS, and me, as a young student, use Linux every day (at home).
Oh my good god! Get your heads out of your a$$, this is the funniest thing I have ever read in my life! I run Ubuntu Dapper on my laptop and would never ever run a Windows OS again. This has got to be a huge joke.
Ubuntu
Oh my, it’s just hilarious, too bad this alleviate all doubts about the true nature of this blog.
Now it is too obviously comedy.
It was so sweet to wonder and have the nagging feeling that it may be serious after all.
Somewhere in the American midwest there is a man with a sense of humour so subtle that he could write a “serious” comparison of the latest version of Windows with an 8 year-old release of RH Linux. That man is Tristan, and he is living proof that at least one US citizen gets the point of irony.
Best laugh I’ve had in ages!
Say, Tristan, have you heard of the latest and greatest OS? It’ll beat anything Microsoft has ever released. It’s been developed by IBM, whom, as you know, are an even older and more respectable American company. Those fine, upstanding citizens have developed an operating called OS/2 – it’s a must have! You must encourage all your friends to buy this wonderfully stable, lightning fast, fully compatible and totally virus-free system.
What i cant believe is that you are so behind the times that you don’t know that red hat has released many versions of its OS since the “comparison” you performed. i really want to know where in the heck you managed to find a copy of red hat 3.0 i dont think i have ever been in a computer store that even carried that old a version. 3.0 came out at a time where there were not alot of options. Best buy carries Suse 10.0 try to find that and compare it. i use linux at home on a daily basis and have no problems except pptp protocol to vpn into work with. that is only because pptp is a microsoft only standard. I render this page on firefox,netscape and konquerer just fine. i am not trying to mean but i would appreciate it if you just asked someone who actually knows better to help you with your request to explore the subject of comparison. i think retired IT manager says about everything about you i think anyone needs to know. posting the get the facts campain link doesnt help your real facts because its a microsoft sponsered listing of articles saying how great microsoft is. of course they would say that or they would lose customers. another correction FreeBSD is not an older Linux. its a version of Unix that is quite new. linux is a copy of Minix which is a unix that was written by a college professor for teaching operating systems.
Nice try to make Linux look like a bad OS
I don’t no, how you managed it to find such an old Linux. All Users should take a look at Ubuntu, a realy good Linux Distribution that is much better than Windows.
A Linux user’s view of the world. Hallucinations from excessive use of Linux might be similar to those of LSD or pot.
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Even the repeated reading of the Word Linux makes me feel sick, i fully support your battle against those Pot Smoking Linux Terrorists that are trying to take over the Internet with their program. Linux is nothing else than a weapon against God, G.W. Bush and America.
Your Prayer team has an IT Department?
Anonymous said…
Oh, this is funny.
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You get money for each hit on your blog, I guess. And the best way to get a lot of hits is to spread funny bs.
This is not true*** and it is no “BS”. The article is carefully researched by Tristan and I have no reason to doubt it complete truthfullness!
God bless America!
Shelley
PS: Let me know where I can sign up for getting paid for every hit. I would love that. I could donate the money to my church group!
Anonymous; Regardless of what you think, these are well researched facts. I am sure they are uncomfortable for you to read. Having one’s disillusions shattered is allways uncomfortable.
If you do not believe me, please take a look at the many INDEPENDANT research documents on this website:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/default.mspx
My own study concluded that Linux was not yet ready for the desktop, however feel free to read all the reports that show what other purposes Linux is unsuited for.
Tristan
I am still not quite certain if you are masters of manipulation, who get some sick pleasure out of stirring up the proverbial hornets nest, or if you really are a bunch of pompous idiots…but come on…even if you are…this is stupidity in the extreme. If you don’t like linux, that’s fine, don’t use it, and let us who seem to get on just fine with it to our own devices.
I sincerely hope that nobody believes this mumbo-jumbo. It is obviously a fake (there’s no way someone could be that stupid), but it is grossly misleading to people without personal experience on the subject.
Tristan is so right, Linux is a communist tool build on communist ideas. Without Microsoft no internet, no mouse and no desktop computer. Its not weird that Jobs uses a communist OS, he is one himself
still this would be a step up from the magnetic-tapes upon which FreeBSD is normally supplied
FreeBSD has never been supplied on magnetic-tapes. Even back ten years ago when FreeBSD 1.0 was released, magnetic tape was too unreliable when compared to paper tape and punch cards.
If it is possible for the author the revise his or her article, I would recommend replacing the word “Firefox” with “Mozilla” up at the browser comparison. Even if purposefully using dead & buried software, the names should be more or less correct ;-)
Besides, since Dan Brown wrote his idiotic mainstream ramblings it has become quite difficult to fool people into thinking that someone other that CERN invented the Web, or US Military the Internet, for that matter.
assuming that this guy has 2 brain cells that actually function. This has to be egging on the satire or his original post.
first off look at the fallacies that shouldn’t be there in the first place.
All linux distro’s can be downloaded and burnt onto cd’s or a dvd rom.
netscape is not even close to being the same company as firefox (firfox is owned by mozilla)
I can see where someone with no clue about technology could assume microsoff came up with the internet and WWW.
You also have to laugh at this guy comparing a 64 bit X2 chip to a p4 as the same when they aren’t even the same when you compare windows vs windows.
The only part in the article that makes any sense is the whole fact that yes linux takes knowledge to learn how to use.
Hi there :)
this article is very funny :)
1st screenshot is taken from some very old linux, try this one:
http://ventyl.web4all.sk/screenshots/1.jpg
(Slackware Linux 10.2 KDE 3.4.2)
2nd image: do you think, that every alcoholic must have Linux installed and do you think that every owner of Linux must be alcoholic?
Bonzy buddy is useless under linux. Linux has native support for multiple users in same time working on the same machine.
The netscape, which is used for viewing STR under linux is maybe 5 or 6 years old :) Thy newest Firefox, like me :) no problems :) (You can get same garbage when using Microsoft Internet Explorer 3 for example).
Next screenshot is probably some fractal. What is bad about fractal computing? Crazy colours? Can you give the proof of hallucinations from daily usage of Linux? I use Linux for about 2 years constantly every day and everything is ok :)
Do you still think, that this server uses Windows? Because i don’t think so :)
If you want to compare something, then first give equal chances to both compared products. Maybe these cheap lies can be consumed by average american head, but not everybody will allow you to lie him this way.
If you want further contact, you can do so at ventyl86(at)netkosice(dot)sk
Nice day
Men, how crazy people are out there, i imagine that you have the flag in your underpants, and a bible just next your 9 mm, are you racist to?, men you write bullshit seriusly, i realy hope that this articles are a joke, because it only speaks of a sick and loosy mind.
Ok, to benschmark products you need to know the basics of the products. First of all, you could have tested the linux on you AMD just aswell, as you don’t need any driver CD’s. Second of all, the latest distros are found right of their home pages, just download this ISO files, use your favourite CD-burning software, and you have a brand new instalation CD. The largest distros have loads of software available on their installations CD’s, and some of them have nice features for adding software directly from the internet (almost like Microsoft Update).
The lack of Active X is one of the reasons I use Linux. By removing that from my computer I have more controll over information sent from me.
The lack of DRM software is not a choise from the Linux society, but a result of MPAA and RIAA denying source information and protocol documentation to software developers. It seems like Microsoft and Apple are the only ones given this. DRM software will come to Linux too, but patience is the key for linux users.
BSD is not Linux, BSD is a UNIX system developed by Berkley university, and released under the GNU software license. Linux is based upon Minix, a system far much older than UNIX. I have to admit that Linux also uses much software under the GNU license, though the Linux kernel have its own license.
Counting linux versions goes on the kernel, not the distributions. I use a linux kernel version 2.6.15, which is only a few months old, new versions comes as new drivers are added, or various known bugs are fixed. Just like security upgrades in Windows.
Distribution versions is not the same as Linux versions. The distributions count their versions on the bundle of software it delivers. My current installation is a Gentoo 2006.1, that is the first bundle Gentoo delivered this year.
If you want to learn more about this, check out the following pages:
http://www.gnu.org/
http://www.linux.org/
http://www.kernel.org/
http://www.redhat.com/
http://www.gentoo.org/
http://www.debian.org/
http://www.freebsd.org/
http://www.suse.de/
Hope you manges to get the facts right next time.
PS: Gentoo have a great support sustem using web forums, so that you don’t need to go through the caos of IRC.
Absolute genius! I’m just sad it’s finally proved it’s all a big joke! I’ll still keep reading though. Thanks guys, the laughs just keep getting bigger!
Dear Tristan
I just felt obliged to give you some hints about not-100%-right parts in your blog.
- I admit, the testing computers you used are quite equal, yet it is not right to take this as a final result, since there are more CPU-drivers available for linux than for windows. You easily could have used the same computer!
- Personaly, I’d be wondering myself if I bought a “latest” product on 3,5″ floppies. Actually the bigger Linux-Distributions (whose product come with the latest version of the X-Server, a graphical frontend equivalent to your Windows 2003) do come on a DVD. By the way: a MS Windows does not need to be on a DVD, since a normal CD provides more than enough space. But Linux uses the space a DVD provides, because it comes with hundrets of FREE programs… I consider free software as useful, but one might think otherwise..
- “Note in yellow the Linux “equivalent” to Microsoft’s Outlook.” Ehm.. looks like Microsoft used my calender on the wall as their template! Or do you, dear Tristan, have a visually complete different schedule?
- “Is this really the best that Linux had to offer?……” Ehm, yes, back in 1996 it was something of the best Linux had to offer. But considering this fact, Windows 95 should be the OS in your test! [Source used: http://radawana.cg.tuwien.ac.at/mail-archives/lll/199607/msg00389.html, found with google: "redhat linux 3.0"]
- Software: hehe, FireFox is the new one, Netscape Navigator the old. However I’d like to ask: Who volonteerely installs SPYware (BonziBuddy) on his computer ? Yes! Right! Windows-user; simply because it hardly exists for linux. And this is after all a pro again.
- “it was gratifying that the makers of Windows software have the freedom to innovate” .. just read my second point.
- Could you please explain the link betwen the “surreal experience” and linux?
- Yes, absolutely right, Linux is designed for the more “demanding” users. Osama must be smarter than lots of people, or just more interested in computers! Ah, and by the way: did you know that YOUR army uses Linux aswell? (Source used: http://www.army.mil)
- Today, Microsoft doesn’t provide support for Windows 95 either.
- “It’s an absurd to suggest that great companies like Google and IBM might have had anything at all to do with this mess.” Did you know that Google is planing it’s own Linux! Read: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/
Thanx four your answer!
Regards from a Swiss who’s been to the USA, Germany, France, the UK and even other countries,
Marc
[emails are welcome aswell: contact{at}maerci.com]
p.s. Microsoft “bought” the ideas of the window-bases system and the mouse from Apple..
pp.s. sorry, my English orthography isn’t the best, but I prefer beeing able to lead conversations in six languages fluently to writing a – for me foreign – language perfect.
I have carefully read “Linux: A European threat to our computers” and ” Linux and Windows Compared: The Facts”. I have also studied in depth all, thats every one of, the 516 comments posted at this time.
The conclusion is deeply disturbing and incredibly difficult to come to terms with. But it is with proud patriotism and humble prayer that I plainly state the sinister subtext found in these writings.
Shelley and Tristan are advanced Linux Users.
Try the Xandos Linux Available on Ebay for $0.99 plus shipping.It is very good.
Some of the comments you recieved were very mean. Not Christian at all.
Check my Blogspot: http://www.dymoke.blogspot.com/
Howard
You think Windowns looks better than Linux?
You need glasses :-)
Tristan,
you made my day when I read your post from 4/20/2006 – Linux: A European threat to our computers (by Tristan)
and yet again you made me chuckle … keep contributing here :-)
and btw. it looks like U.S. Federal Aviation thinks different of Linux :-P http://www.redhat.com/rhel/informationcenter/successstories/government/faa.html
It’s a very old Linux that you have there, just check out the latest Ubuntu or Mandriva and you’ll see a big difference… And Netscape isnt a navigator from Firefox, actually, Firefox is a Netscape based navigator, wich is a LOT better than IE. Did you know that your so-called “fabulous” Active X is the cause of most securtiy issues of IE?
Have a nice day, iditot.
@tristen, how much were you paid as an IT manager? I truely wish to follow in your role. Hopefully the money will be better as I’m more qualified in my google diplomas. Equally I’m also good at making up things.
For more information in my expertise please see
http://www.ubuntu.com/
http://www.deviantart.com/view/28688856/ – Some awful linux desktops I found
http://www.deviantart.com/view/29001499/ – Hideous isnt it?
I cant believe they make stuff look like that… tsk
Tristan & Shelley, you two seem to be two god-fearing honest USA citizens.
In that spirit and to help humankind as a whole, i urge you to consider chemical sterilization
you REALLY shouldnt propage those genes. BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
priceless!
(especially the comments!)
Quite interesting reading.
I certainly hope that some day you’ll learn the values of tolerance, acceptance, and openmindness.
Why so much hatred? Is that christian?
I am still not sure if you are being sarcastic. Are you?
Well, I guess this is a joke but I can’t be too sure.
To even compare a AMD Athlon64 2X 3800+ 2 GHz with an Intel Pentium 4 2 GHz with HT is ridicilous. The “3800+” is used to compare the speed with a Pentium 4, so in this case you would have to compare it with a two (since 2X illustrates that the CPU is built with dual cores, almost comparable with two physical CPUs) Intel Pentium 4 @ 3.8 GHz. Even so the AMD is 64 bits, not 32 bits so there will still be quite some difference. And since when do CPU creators ship drivers for their CPUs? :D
I’m also interested in how you got a hold of Red Hat 3.0 since the latest version of Red Hat for personal computers is 9.0 and it’s successor “Fedora” is version 5 (Fedora Core 5), (there is also Red Hat Enterprise for servers where the latest version is 4).
Further more is Red Hat only one of many Linux distributions, where the three most used is Ubuntu, SuSE, Fedora and Mandriva (in that order, according to DistroWatch).
Red Hat also got excellent support for their products if you buy them or purchase a support subscription. But sure, IRC is a great way to get extra (and free) support when you’re stuck.
FreeBSD is not Linux, it’s a UNIX clone, based on AT&T UNIX via the BSD (Berkely Software Distribution) branch through 386BSD, while Linux is written from scratch and inspired by Minix. They got nothing to do with each other. Other examples of BSD operating systems is NetBSD and OpenBSD.
Netscape Navigator is not and have never been a product made by Firefox, as Firefox is not a company, but a software created by Mozilla Foundation (Mozilla is also the name of one of their software) which is the “successor” of Netscape Communications Corporation. And by the way, Firefox’ support for World Wide Web Consortium’s standards for HTML and CSS than Internet Explorer and it will always be this way unless Microsoft some day wakes up and quit ignoring current standards and stop creating their own standards instead.
I use Linux on all my computers (with the exception of my server/gateway/firewall which is running OpenBSD) and I love using it. In Linux I feel free, where as in Windows I feel like I’m being caged. Windows is asuming too much, making decisions for me which is incorrect most of the time. I’m not saying everyone feels like this, if Windows is the right choice for you then I won’t stand in your way. But from these blogs i either get the feeling that you hate everything without the name “Microsoft” in it or want to crack a good joke, which you have succeeded in doing flawlessly, and I can only thank you for the laughs I’ve been given. If neither of these are the case then you really need to do your homework because no one can miss that much information and facts.
So with this I thank you for your time and I once again express my hope for this to be a big joke. :)
and the oscar for best comedian goes to…..
im defintely not reading this another M$ glorification from some person who knows unix/linux/GNU only from postcards and from M$ apocalyptic movies. GG stop smoking that stuff man.
Heheheh great article ! Enjoyed it very much. I especially enjoy the comments. You have a boatload full of them now.
Is this a parody of rightwing americans or is this for real. Either way, fab.
Tristan you really don’t know anything about computers, seems that anybody can be ms certified.
1) BSD is not Linux
2) microsoft did not invent modern personal computer, ibm did it
3) microsoft did not invent internet, universities/army
4) microsoft did not invent www, cern
5) netscape is not browser from firefox, firefox is browser developed by mozilla foundation
6) huge amounts of attacks come through that great activex components
7) redhat el is not intended for desktop
8) even this blog uses linux as os
… and more
I expect you will test some modern linux desktop (ubuntu, fedora, suse) and you’ll apologize for nonsenses witten here. Trouble is that you _don’t want_ to learn how linux works. You expect that your knowledge of windows is enough. I think you are even unable to read data from cd under linux – you will probaly search some letter of disk, right?
… and more
How can I get my Linux to get these nice pictures as in the wonderfull example? I only have text on my SUSE Linux 10.0.
http://cache.novell.com/cached/xglrelease/transparency.mpg
http://cache.novell.com/cached/xglrelease/zoom-windows.mpg
http://cache.novell.com/cached/xglrelease/desktoporg.mpg
http://cache.novell.com/cached/xglrelease/desktopspin.mpg
Just some examples of what I have to endure everyday.
Review has no credibility. Comparing an old version of an OS to a new one is just being stupid.
ActiveX is old, and obsolete. It’s about to be replaced because of it’s incompatibility to anything.
All IRC Channels are like that. If you’re too dumb to use them, then don’t.
DRM is the worse thing ever invented. Even artists are speaking up against it. Read the news.
Hmm…
I just have to ask: what have you smoked lately?
Giving such rants about Linux in the year 2006 just makes me ask you, what the f*** is wrong with you?
Believeing that America is still numbero uno, and that every thing else is crap blatantly of you!
What’s wrong with Europe?
(Sorry I had to use some strong words, but I had to. You are so ignorant to everything not American, still thinking you are the best)
And may God continue to bless Europe!
you’ve got serious problems dude!
wake up for life.
You’ve got to tell me, how the hell have you have found that red hat 3 was one of the latest linux distribution?
do yourself a favor shut up!
Mozilla makes Netscape’s browser?
Tristan,
I also have an MCSE (along with an RHCE and an A+ cert plus a degree in CIS from Purdue) not to mention i’m currently employed by the U.S. government as a LAN admin and have been in the feild for 10 years now. frankly, i’m not surprised that your a “former” IT manager because if that’s what you call a benchmark report i’d be afraid to find out waht your were handing in as completed projects for your job. I’d fire you if you were under me and gave me that kind of work as a project.
My gut tells me that your credentials and experience are made up to support your credibility because your technical knowledge and ability demonstrated in both articles is pathetic. I have 20 year-old working under me that have a better grasp of the subject matter.
Why don’t you try some more mature distros of Linux and maybe use it as a server and benchmark performance over time instead of basing it on just the installation and end user desktop experience of one flavor of Linux. of course that would require you to actually learn how to install and use linux and not just screw around with it in your basement.
If i were you, I’d stick to IT support for your prayer group and go back to school and this time learn something.
I do have to give you one point of credit trippy screensavers ARE great fun to watch on acid!
Tristan, you are amazing.
Have you considered a career in humor?
A talent like that is rare. The level of sarcasm is so high it got everyone confused.
Keep up the good work!
Stephen Colbert would be proud of this website. I think you should try to get on his show. Perhaps do a technology segment. It would be glorious.
You Sir, are a cock of the highest order!
Are you by chance mentally retarded?
And Shelly;
This is not true*** and it is no “BS”. The article is carefully researched by Tristan and I have no reason to doubt it complete truthfullness!
God bless America!
Shelley
You my dear are clearly Delusional, i would suggest that you dis-associate yourself from this mindless moron.
And “God bless America!”, what the f**k is that all about? Did you really need to add that?
Wht do you think God (If he exists) would bless such a shitty, twisted, power-hungry country such as America?
Exactly…
Linux users be damned! For they rever the well-known pinguin as a true god and its prophet Richard Mathiew Stallman. They don’t go to church for their prayers; instead, they utter obscure and obfuscated orations in front of their computers. I’ve heard a friend say, he knew linux users who wanted to “overtake the world” in a kind of evil competition with dangerous Muslim fundamentalists. Did you know that the symbol (or trade mark, but I doubt these commies would even accept such concept) of a related system (open BSD) is a devil? It is high time that the heathens were denied access to web, so you should learn how to produce home pages that can only be viewed with decent software that respect the industrial and intellectual properties. There are techniques for it, just use explorer-specific codes!
Post-scriptum: FWIW, you seem to have less experience with pot than with a linux install, for the former doesn’t give you hallucinations in a normal use. I’d be glad to mail you some so that you can give us a more accurate account on that matter.
I have got to say that this BLOG is a pure example of the brilliant comedic arts.
You really must be a democrat ‘liberal’ (oh how you misuse the term in the states)
If I didn’t know better I’d say you were John Clease…
Sir Clive Wolfe.
“But I think it’s too bad that this one is an overt fake, even though some people (as the comments here clearly show) are going to believe you are actually believing what you are writing , that being that brainless, hopeless and cluess is actually possible. (Well, it probably and unfortunately *is* possible, but not in your case, IMHO) For example, the screenshot of shelleytherepublican.com being rendered in netscape is too obviously faked to be believable (that or that old version of netscape is really worse than I would have thought…)”
Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. I made that screenshot of Netscape myself. Perhaps you should download it yourself and try. Is it my fault that Mozilla’s Netscape is a really bad web browser? Please state why you believe it is a fake other than your own ignorance.
I gave Linux a fair shot. It’s not my fault that it isnt ready for the desktop!
Hahaha
I’m a bit supprised that RedHat 3.0 even worked ( At least the X bit )
Linux Sucks Ducks cloaca’s
You can take you ultra right wing, highly biased, utterly ignorant views and shove them up your ass.
Once you’ve done that, there should still be plenty of room so take your creation theory, Linux reviews, homophobia and racism and cram them up there too.
I’m an English liberal atheist. I regularly drink myself stupid. Occasionally I smoke marijuana. I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥m your worst enemy. I believe in common sense. I don’t believe in pushing my beliefs down everyone’s throats, but I will criticize you. You want to know why? Because I’m 15, and if I can laugh at what you’ve written then just imagine what far more intelligent people than I are doing.
As for this review, associating Linux with drugs is not fooling anyone.
I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥m also interested to know how you got that certificate you waved at us, and still managed to dredge up the tripe you have here.
Finally, I need a laugh, so please express your views on violent video games. I want you to email me this with your signature at the bottom to jamie.waters@ntlworld.com. I want to be able to utterly crush you, to shut you up, to prove that you have nothing but complete nonsense on this blog.
Rule, Britannia, rule the waves;
Britons never will be slaves.
That linux is… really old
Look at mine for god’s sake (fedora core)
http://invader02.googlepages.com/Screenshot.png
They also support AMD’s 64 bit…
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora
x86_64 is AMD’s architexture. Even if it wasn’t supported, AMD should’ve run the really old Red Hat anyway.
- The European Organization for Nuclear Research, commonly known as CERN, is the world’s largest particle physics laboratory[...] It is also known for being the birthplace of the World Wide Web.
This taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cern
- Red Hat 9 is the last version of Red Hat Linux
- I was reading the RedHat website and get this: the FAA is using Linux!
https://www.redhat.com/rhel/informationcenter/successstories/government/faa.html
In conclusion, Tristan you are an IT manager of what? solitaire?
I feel sick.
This post is beyond absurd.
dude, i love u
theres nothing I hate more than these fucking liberals
i cant stand people who hate america, the single greatest country to exist in history
great site
I love the “I’ve graduated as a MCSE”.
Apart from the MCP its the lowest Microsoft Cert avaliable.
Secondly god help any company that has an IT manager who only has a MCSE under his belt.
Good laugh. If this isn’t a piss take god help you.
Ghostz.
I am sure you will agree that I am exceptionally qualified to speak on this subject.
No you are not, you moron.
Being an IT in Redneckville, Backtown USA and having a couple of MS certifications in Powerpoint doesn’t give you any knowledge whatsoever in operating systems design.
You probably can’t even read since you didn’t even get the latest RedHat version right – a simple logon to the site (https://www.redhat.com/apps/download/) would tell you that it’s up to 9.0 and now the Enterprise version.
Man! You are such a moron
alright, I’ve read this blog for a couple days, not sure if it’s a joke or not. I’m still not sure about Shelley, but this post cannot possibly be anything other than a joke.
The quotes that tipped me off that this is either written by a 12 year-old or a joke or both:
“…the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web”
“We would have liked to test Linux on an Athlon as well, however AMD would not provide us with a Linux driver CD; In any case both of these chips were approximately equal in power because the Intel chip had has ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Hyperthreading???.”
“We had been told that the newest version of RedHat Linux was version 3.0, which for a ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?flagship??? product was surprisingly hard to find.” [RedHat Linux was discontinued 2 years ago, after version 9. Version 3 was from ~1995]
“…we were able to install the latest version of Netscape Navigator, the new browser from Firefox”
“There were no additional passwords to type in and as an additional courtesy to users, Windows installers often include extra programs that might be of interest.”
“It’s an absurd to suggest that great companies like Google and IBM might have had anything at all to do with this mess.”
Tristan, I salute for some of the best satire on the web.
Shelley, if you’re not in on this, you might want to reconsider letting this stuff be posted. It’s humor at your expense, and as funny as it is, I think you’re funny enough by yourself.
I think this article cost Tristan his, almost sure, place in heaven.
Dutchilly
How can you own a certificate from Microsh*t without knowing where to find newest Linux ???
While snapshooting images from 2 or 3 different Linux versions for the shit you tell people and downloading “BonziBuddy” which is declared free SPYWARE…
http://www.spywareguide.com/product_show.php?id=512
So YOU own a certificate from MS ???
And you still don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t know that the “mouse”, the “windows” and nearly everything about windows is just bought up or stolen from other companies ???
While youre “god bless him Bill Gates” was laughing about “mouse and windows” OTHERS invented, what he stole after…
And YOURE still owning a certificate from MS ???
While not knowing that Linux means “FREEWARE” maybe you should “DOWNLOAD” the actual version of it, before testing 10 year old software ???
And while youre comparing 10 year old software – lets check up LOVELY “windows 1.0″ against lets say “freebsd” and please don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t forget telling me what stability you reached with both systems…
And YOU ARE still owning that certificate ???
And even without that certificate and just a lil?Ǭ¨?Ǭ• mind – you should have seen the dust on that linux hardcover you bought for let me think 2$ it?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s worth – which should have made you thinking…
Anyway – it just shows that thoose certificates make you NOTHING…
And the rest of that page is just – im sorry for youre children that they grow up in this Nazi-behaving (now calling Republicans) Land.
Maybe you just forgot – who shot you on the moon ???
Neil Armstrong ? George Bush ? Ronald Reagan ??? Nasa ???
The Answer is definitivle : “Werher von Braun” which was a “real good old american” inventing the V1 and V2 rocket for Nazi-Germany which most of youre Unique technologies are made of…
History Song (they where laughing before of the sh*t you talking) “Tom Lehrer – Wernher von Braun” (its in youre language – you could understand)
And now lets see the World at War right now : Iraq – Iran maybe if America likes to – then lets see vietnam? or china? – they may now since youre Bush-Clan changed the laws in YOURE “godblessed” (laughing) country…
YOURE Military tortures, kidnapps, kills and lies all around the planet and you still don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t see – youre just poor people which lost theyre part to reality…Maybe you should check youre mind and see things from other views then youre “one foot view angle”…
YOURE JUST SH*TTALKING – F*CK THE Bush Clan – and youre just that dumb of believling any sh*t YOURE Government is telling you…
P.S. : Check youre sources before you tell shit on any internet page.
P.P.S. : Youre a real good example that a cardriver needs a licence but children could be made by anyone…
P.P.P.S. : Certificates from MS means nothing…
If the newest you could find was Red Hat Linux 3, I guess you never read the fact about windows and linux on the microsoft site you refer to, since all their test is with Red Hat Linux 9.0 (even that is old to).
Wow. This is quite possibly the most intense use of sarcasm I’ve ever encountered. If by the slim chance it’s not, I’m afraid it’s you who needs the help.
I?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•m a gammer, so Windows all the way.
Someone told me that this year is the Linux year…. that was about 5 years ago….
The true ignorant people are the ones who think this is real. This site is a JOKE people. And the joke is on you ignorant anti-whatever (Microsoft, Windows, Republicans, Christians) people.
It’s great that the authors of this site (who most likely are Linux loving, Microsoft hating, liberal nerds) are able to poke fun of their own kind. Bravo!
Onn the basis of his living in Iowa City, Iowa alone, I suspect this is parody. While there are plenty of conservatives in Iowa, you won’t find many of them in Iowa City.
[Quote]Sam Godfriend said…
Linux is nothing else than a weapon against God, G.W. Bush and America. [/Quote]
Now this gets my hopes up. Can it really be true?
Wow… Look at all the people GRENADE!…
Thats all you had to do was post relatively uninteresting, overly verbose rubbish, in a semi-convincing manner, add an occasional reference to a non-descript church, and people fizzed like this?
It suprises me that they believe that their replies can change your mind, as much as it suprises me that you believe your opinion, despite it being carefully designed to, could change theirs.
Your wasted in the IT industry, your talents so obviously destined for the political arena.
Your country needs you! The IT industry doesnt…
Bravo! You make me laugh again. I like your articles and spread they among my friends … the linux users :))))
What kind of IT Pro are you really if you can’t find a recent Linux version?! Didn’t even read the rest of this crap. Next time compare XP to Suse Linux 10 and try to get serious.
You said “This alcoholic has Linux installed on his laptop.”
Do you know that there are drug dealers, killers and also homosexuals that own american Motorola cell phones?
And also there are comunists that use Microsoft Office?
Gee!!! A european once said “Only two things are infinite: universe and human stupidity”. His name was Albert Einstein. Was he talking about you?
Einstein must’ve been, because he was a dirty ol’ socialist, that Einstein guy.
I take it Shelley also boycots the general theory of relativity?
Tristan Shuddery wrote :
Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. I made that screenshot of Netscape myself. Perhaps you should download it yourself and try. Is it my fault that Mozilla’s Netscape is a really bad web browser? Please state why you believe it is a fake other than your own ignorance.
I must admit I added this line about the netscape screenshot at the last time, and kinda regretted posting it.
It isn’t really good an example, and is perhaps not as obvious as I thought when I read the article (But hell, I was quite tired at that time, even though I was not high)
But anyway I didn’t (and still don’t) want to rant about all the blatant innacuracies and lies in your article, as many people did (perhaps having knee-jerk reaction every time someone writes bullshit about linux or wanting to show their better knowledge, or just wanting to educate the ignorant masses that with no doubt crowd that blog). But I think it’s plain useless, either this being serious or being a joke.
As for my alleged ignorance… I unfortunately do know what I’m talking about. I know linux well enough to really have a good laugh at this article, and to really appreciate its utter absurdity.
Jambo!
ROTFLMAO! What’s even funnier is the number of people who can’t follow the various statements for long enough to see the self-referential parody!
Hey folks! When a plush penguin with a handle of beer is introduced as an alcoholic with Linux on his laptop, and you don’t see that … ! OMIGOD! And Claria as an extra utility!
At the rate you’re going, Shelley, and Tristan, you won’t have a God-fearing America, you’ll have an America-fearing God!
Mjinga Wawa (From Kano city and Zanzibar)
Hello,
chmod 666 Tristan
:)
Tristan Shuddery wrote :
Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. I made that screenshot of Netscape myself. Perhaps you should download it yourself and try. Is it my fault that Mozilla’s Netscape is a really bad web browser? Please state why you believe it is a fake other than your own ignorance.
Where the hell did you manage to download such an old version of netscape anyway ??? bizarre
The latest version of it is version 8.1 you can get it here: http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/
Is it really so difficult to tytpe http://www.netscape.com in your browser? Then again I’m not suprised you find the internet difficult to deal with judging from your’s and shelley’s mindless, bigoted, racist, homophobic other ‘articles’
for your info your site looks like this in netscape 8.1 http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2186/shelleynetscape5ks.jpg
Ans like this in firefox 1.5.0.2 (lastest version)http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9436/shelleyfirefox7xg.jpg
And like this in IE http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2006/shelleyie6xx.jpg
All look pretty similar dont they…only difference being IE is sooooooo slow, unstable, crashes all the time and years out of date. Firefox is very very fast, secure, never crashes and no pop-ups
the first linux article was much more fun!!! so for the next one, please more pseudoreligious and polemic stuff .. not boring “facts” :)
if you had taken your time to actually find another distro (like debian, ubuntu, or about any other), and a newer version (not a 10 year old version like you chose), you would have found both a better GUI and a included internet browser…
and
Cool I didn’t know that Linux looked so beautiful in the year 1994 :>. I read 1/4 of the articel and I almost gave up on the world. But the articel is getting funnier with every line I read so i guess im going to read it.:>
Hi Tristan
I am student of information technologies from Slovakia in Middle Europe.
I use Linux 2 years and have no problem with it.
Linux what you install is very,very,very old from 1996-7.
I look to your images and see 25Mb that you have 25MB ram in your Intel 2GHZ machine is it true??I really thing that you are lair.You post here very very old images and use very very old linux distro only because you manipulating with people who reds this blog.Somebody who is MCP hae to know such things like what is liux,unix etc..
Your blog is something like propaganda made to Microsoft(MS) looks better as they are. That site with no styles on it is badly coded and don’t respects standards ,MS use it’s own standard but it;s not correct :).Active X is security miss feature,many many exploits and virusses use these “feature” to get into your computer and get your private data.If you surf internet with active X enabled you are hazarding with your datas.
For your information Linux is widely used server operating system,IBM,SUN,HP supports linux on their servers.
Unix was born in AT&T and become predecessor Solaris,*BSD,AIX,MACOS X,Linux.FreeBSD is not linux distributon but it is derivate of UNIX from Berkley University.
Regards
Thanks Tristan,
You’ve shown that Americans really do understand satire! In one post you’ve satired Linux, MCSEs, Windows and user’s natural ability to install pointless spyware!
Congratulations on a hilarious post!
Maybe you should really look at what a linux desktop really look: http://www.ubuntu.com/screenshots
Being a microsoft certified engineer does not makes you qualified to speak about linux even if you think so, you seem to consider linux as a copy of windows but this is a really different system and you need to learn how to use it not just take what you know under windows and try to do the same thing under linux.
You are so right! God thanks there are still so beautiful people left. You are the ones who will save the world. Ilove you.
Use an updated version of linux if you want to be serious. You’re not being fair and this can be accounted as a sin.
sinner!
I loved this article. It flipped me from thinking this blog is written by a right-wing racial bigot ignorant faithboy to thinking it is written by someone with at least a sense of humor which is nice.
This was the clincher:
“When we opened the shrink-wrap box we were astounded to find that it contained a large set of floppy-disks. I cannot imagine what Redhat were thinking in this age of DVDs; still this would be a step up from the magnetic-tapes upon which FreeBSD is normally supplied (Free BSD is an older kind of Linux).”
Let me reiterate: I think this is a brilliant joke. If not, god help America, because no-one else will.
And then there is the evil Fox News http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.foxnews.com
Time for Africa to have a say:
Scenario 1: You are joking
Thank you very much for this (and the previous) article about Linux! It is funny beyond description. Have you ever considered becoming a standup comedian? Its almost as good as the story about the city of Tuttle IT manager who confused the Apache default page on a Centos server for a hacking attempt!
Scenario 2: You are serious
Get a life! Try and catch up to what is happening in the world of IT. Read some IT magazines. Hell, ask the 15 year old snotfaced kid from nextdoor to show you the difference between Linux and Windows. Make sure about the facts before you make an ass out of yourself before millions of ppl. Good God! A primary school kid kan do better research than you! I am embarressed for your sake! It’s like watching a retard play with shit because he thinks its play-dough! And then to make Linux users out as sinners? How naive can you get?! Are you Amish or something? Shelley: pull your head out of Bush’s ass. Tristan: pull your head out of Steve Ballmer’s ass. (BTW: referring to Steve Ballmer as an “expert” from M$ was the funniest part of the original article)
Cape Town
South Africa
Registered Linux User #356674
All i needed to read from that article was that your an ex IT manager and an MCSE, your officially one of the most usless people in the IT industry and can’t be taken seriously when it comes to technical issues.
For being vice-president on a IT-department I expected more knowledge regarding linux and how it works in addition to Windows. Even my younger brothers (13 and 16) seems to understand the way of installing Linux better then you do. Im not sure I can trust your vice-president position at all.
Outstanding text to read, I have never laughed so hard from a text like yours.
I m shocked by your terrible lies, you are not even ashamed to say, the “typical linux desktop” you display is old, as old as windows 3.x. Now, GNU/Linux, is modern, it’s beatiful, see the linux screenshot gallery
This is someone’s idea of a joke right?
I can’t believe that someone can seriously be this incredibly stupid and biased towards windows and the like.
thank you!! i had never laughed that much in my entire life!!..really!
I’m sure tristan had a tough one looking for the oldest version of redhat available, and using programs that even the bigest fan of Linux could’t use… I mean… Netscape?? who use it? XD XD
however, this site is giving more publicity to linux and opensource, i really don’t think anyone could believe any of the “facts” on this site, matter in fact the whole web comes here just to laugh of you.
http://www.opensuse.org
See…I found this on a “drinking-beer-and-smoking-pot” day. One of those days that look eternal… still, I thought I was alucinating ‘cuz of what I’ve read. Then I thought “I’ll just find that again and see if it’s real”
And it is…
…
Sad isn’t it?
Today I’m “clean” of alcohol or drugs, and still I find this f****** website surreal. Why? Just ‘cuz… WTF??? What do u guys mean with that shitty “Oh-my-God-If-it’s-not-american-it’s-not-good”?? Let me tell u something for u to remember, U WOULDN’T KNOW HOW TO READ IF THE BRITISH HAD NOT CONQUERED U!! U would be just some american natives praying to the rain god. I have nothing against other cultures, but u seem too. I bet u two would love to have a dictator. not that g.w.bush is far from that..
oh well… i’m not writing to explain to u again why u’r so wrong about Linux (I’m posting this with a Linux OS and Firefox),it would be worthless, I’m just saying how stupid u r.
1st-> U ignorants, the world wide web belongs to everyone, not just the americans. doesn’t mather who created it, it belongs to the world as the name says.
2nd-> “I would give all the money to my local church”…… If some bigger idiot than u paid for this, u would just be to anxious to get ur paws on the money. u wouldn’t just give it away. unless u were just some milionaire teen with nothing to do.
I laught a bit ‘cuz of this… but I must say… U know nothing about pot allucinations! there’s no colorfull wirlwind “smiling” to u… just a sleeping-feeling like u’r dreaming with the reality.
Farewell, and remember:
Even in Portugal are better leaders than G.W.Bush. I know, I’m Deutch, living in Portugal.
I have already read your deliriums about mozilla Nestscape….
How old is the latest IE version ? 2001
Does Firefox feature a download manager ?
Aren’t you obliged with IE to open a lot of widows to browse several site ?
Does IE block ads ?
Can you easily debug a Javascript iw M$ browser ?
Does IE report the syntex error is CSS ?
To conclude, I am French (and proud of it), I study computing and I can’t bear when ignorant people tell lies about good free software, I use everyday ( God knowshow they’re useful ), and say freedom is hell. You know yourself how you should be ashaed of telling lies, remember you can lie to men, not to God.
He said he’s a Microsoft engineer, thus he could actually be THAT stupid! :lol:
I bet this moron does not even know the difference between Linux and GNU/Linux.
what?
windows is better than linux?
hope you pc will be hacked by someone.
god bless your pc
alexander t.
(german dpd(gay,atheist))
Shelley and Tristan
Please send me ten pounds of the stuff that you are smoking. It is obviously good stuff!
Microsoft vs Linux
Before I start with my comparison of Microsoft to linux I would like to share my credentials with you. I saw a computer in a store once back in 1992 and owned one just before the y2k epidemic hit. Ok, now that that is out of the way, let me start with saying that it was very hard to find the newest version of Microsoft. I was able to finally locate a product called Windows 3.1. I was surprised that it came on floppies. Any distro of linux comes on at least CD’s. I referred to my PC for Dummies which we all know is the most trusted book being published. I set up one computer with a P3 and another with a Athlon 64 3800+.
I must say that I was amazed at how hard it was to install Windows 3.1 on the p3 machine. There was virtually no driver support and it didnt even come with a browser. I called microsoft ask for support on this issue and they were very rude and told me they would not help. I dont understand since this is a brand new product.
The install of Fedora Core 5 went much smoother on the Athlon 64 3800+ machine. I only had to answer a few prompts and it did everything else. The desktop was much nicer looking than windows 3.1. And had a browser, oofice suite, audio/video editing software, games, and much more already installed for free!
I also like to add that Hitler himself use Windows and that means if you use it to you will go to hell.
Tristan, this is how your article sounds to people with actual knowledge of the IT industry. Your ignorance is the reason why people hate America(Yes I am a US citzen). And shelly please stop using the WWW.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA… Redhat 3.0 is the newest??? HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
your a blind follower to your own ass!!! to many of you in this world… cant u just die, and let the rest of the world live there lives HOW THEY WANT TO!!!!!!!!!
Now I know why you are a Microsoft Certified Enginer.
I’m 17 and I know how to use Linux and I’ using it while I’m writing this.
“RedHat Linux was version 3.0, which for a ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?flagship??? product was surprisingly hard to find.”
You never considered http://www.redhat.com ? lol
You Really are a nerd, and full of pure american shite!!!!!!!
To quote your article:
” I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.”
You can honestly say that, and claim to be an IT manager?
Doesn’t the fact that the DoD (Department of Defense) originally invented the ‘net ring any bells? Besides your worthless MSCE, do you have say a CISCO or Net+ cert? I very, VERY highly doubt it.
It’s idiots like you that prevent future expansion of great open source products.
Yes, the software industry is a multi-billion dollar operation, and is WORLD WIDE. It isn’t an American market anymore. Being the good religious person you are, you should be the first to acknowledge that uniting the world under one goal would be a good thing.
BUT OH MY GOD THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!
Please.
I really, really doubt if you know anything about the rise of the Personal computer industry. There have been a series of very good TV programmes in the USA about it, called “Triumph Of The Nerds” (they made later a TV movie and DVD about it “Pirates Of Silicon Valley) which paints the true story about how Steve Jobs from Apple stole the idea for a GUI (Graphical User Interface) from Rank Xerox while Bill Gates stole it from Steve Jobs. BTW Microsoft bought DOS for $ 50,000 because they had no ideas for a more or less stable OS. Linux was developed from Minix, a Dutch mini OS made out of Unix and Unix is as American as you can get them! Computer Operating Systems don’t haver anything to do with Christian of non Christian, even more, me as confessing Christian am ashamed for someone as you who as confessing christian try do paint an Operating System as a devilish tool. While a organisation which tries to strangle all kind of software competition in the world, by stealing and buying other’s software and buying off their lawsuits and which is convicted as monopolist, is put by you on a pedestal! Moreover I am ashamed of all the rubbish you talk about OSses while there is so much really bad stuff going on in the world some done by terrorist, others by well meaning American influence.
Just a few notes in no particular order:
1. I’m not sure why anyone would want to intentionally install spyware like Bonzi Buddy. It doesn’t work on Linux because the folks at Bonzi want people who don’t understand the true nature of the product to use it. Most Linux users learn the details of the software they install.
2. There are distributions of Linux that have been using the 64-bit capabilities of the AMD processors since they became available. Microsoft was supposed to release something this year that adds a 64-bit appendage to their 32-bit Windows XP, rather than rebuilding to make it work properly.
3. Red Hat 3.0 is a dinosaur, it’s Fedora Core 3.0 that you should have been looking for, and it’s still not the latest or the greatest Linux has to offer. Try SuSE 10.0 it’s far better, more polished, and includes some great software to beat nearly anything Microsoft has to offer.
4. Why look to AMD for drivers? Since when do you go to the CPU manufacturer for CPU drivers? Everything you need to run Linux is provided by the Linux community, since most hardware vendors do not provide drivers for Linux (many of them don’t provide Windows drivers either).
5. Linux is an Operating System, not a political system. If it were, I would still choose the so-called “communist” Linux over the “evil empire” of Windows. I would rather have the freedom of self-regulated social interaction (like Linux) than the oppressive feudalistic repression (like Windows).
6. Why should I choose to support a company that rips off the people it says it’s working for, rather than choosing the freely-distributed, non-corporate option? I prefer to support the software I like, rather than paying (a lot of money) for the software I have absolutely no use for.
Just thought I’d throw that mess in there. Practically every point made in the actual article seems uninformed, baseless, and generally stupid. I thought I’d add some real information here in case anyone wanted to read this far.
Word is out on the street that European and Asian car makers are working together to take over the US brands. Can we expect killer cars (Christine?) in the near future on route 66?
This is the funniest thing I’ve read all day. Great sense of humor and writing skills.
I so totally agree with you. You are right!! Anything American is better than old-Continent stuff. You don’t really need arguments; it’s a generally accepted fact. More like a law of nature. So of course, the billion-dollar making Microsoft is better than the free Linux. I also think that bottled water is better than clear mountain-spring water since you don’t pay for that. And an analysis of mine has shown that you can get your hands wet if you drink water out of a mountain spring whereas using bottled water seems so much more cultivated. Way to go!
i worked with linux once and i can tell ya: NEVER AGAIN!!!
i tried to install a modem driver on suse linux 7.5.. OH MY HOLY CRAP! it virtually impossible! I hated it. I turned away from linux and never looked back.
why would I need it anyway? there are good systems as it is. i am using the mac os now and it’s great!
An idiot is just an idiot.
An educated idiot, though, can be dangerous.
I have found that the general atmosphere in this website is that of which certain short-sighted and narrow minded people express their views, and they get a plethora of counter-attacks, orthological, and of course in complete accordance with reality. I am a european, and I just can’t believe how much fear you have expressed. God exists, I know, but yet you do not follow him. You don’t consider yourself as equal to the rest, which shows that you dread comparison. There needn’t be a comparison, everyone has a place in this world. But, wasted typing I fear, because you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. I bet you have never been abroad, as George Bush before presidency, a puppet of unseen hands quietly playing his part. Oh, and having different partys in a country is totally normal – at least for the rest of the world. BROADEN YOUR MINDS, TRAVEL A BIT, because right now you have the political maturity of an 8-year old.
Shelley. Tristan is taking your ass for a ride. Does it feel nice? Maybe you should do some research before you let some random joker pork you. This is the most hilarious stuff I’ve read in a long time! I AM an IT manager, unlike Tristan, who is an professional retard (or excellent comedian). Keep up the good work! By the way, I work for your US Army, and all of our training simulators run on Linux! Sweet Jesus, I can’t stop laughing…
BTW, did anyone tell you that there’s no such thing as a “Microsoft Certificate of Excellence”? :P
my dear god… redhat 3? where did you get that? And how come do you call it the latest version.. come on!
Check http://www.centos.org download the latest Enterprise Linux version, 4 at this time, and install it. You are comparing a 10 years old OS with your favourite windows.. get a life!!
Try to be a little bit more accurate.. BTW, why dont you compare win 3.11 with centos 4? or ubuntu? You wont because you are comparing two OSes far away in time…
At least spread the truth. The whole truth.
I want you to know, that you’re just sinking into a deeper hole of ignorance, Triston. Nevermind the fact that you’re placing this on a filth/hate filled blog. You should know that the GUI that you’re posting about is so old, you probably couldn’t find someone who still runs it (but microsoft has plenty of 95 users out there rgiht?).
You’re ignorant.
oh my god… have yo ever seen “evolution” or “thunderbird”, those are the real e-mail clients for linux, and guess what…. they’re the best. I am against chavez policy here in Venezuela, but you people make me think that maybe he is rigth about everithing he says about you, You need to read and study before you post lies on line. Linux is not made for terror!. This blog is hosted in a linux server and the owner did’t know, that’s sad. Did you know that Microsoft uses linux as firewalls to protected them from their own O.S.?. that’s a TRUE fact!
As for the geeks who are getting irate, don’t they realize this is a JOKE.
For a start, bonzibuddy is referred to as productivity and the foistware it comes with as a bonus… i think that’s obvious, if not the fact that red hat 3.0 was used, when the world is raving about ubuntu, etc.
theres many more subtler points, if you’d like me to point them out, this is an excellent piece of satire.
-MJG
Tristan, this, and the previous article are some of the best satire I’ve read in a while.
Almost as funny are the linux zealots’ knee-jerk replies.
I don’t use linux much myself, I use KDE and Firefox and OpenOffice. Linux is somewhere in the background but I don’t see it.
Someone could replace my kernel with BSD or Solaris overnight, and as long as KDE and all userland apps remained intact I wouldn’t notice the difference and wouldn’t care. Anyway, I digress. Keep writing satire and God bless America!
Yuri de Groot
New Zealand
(Yuri’s Law:
As an online discussion about computers or IT continues, the probability of an analogy comparing computers or software to cars approaches one.)
What a load of rubbish!
I to am Certified by Microsoft and I find it very frustrating having to use the no brainer tools supplied by MS to do the simplest of tasks.
An example.
We wanted to add a wildcard dns entry to our dns servers.
On the linux dns server all I had to do was open the zone file in a text editor, add the wildcard entry, save the file and make bind re-read the file. Time taken 60s.
On our windows dns – soon to be replaced – Open regedit, change the registry to allow wildcarding, close regedit – reboot. Open the management console, add a new entry to the dns zone file (not a wildcard entry), close mangement console, restart dns, open zone file in notepad, change entry to wildcard, save file, restart dns. Time taken 10 mins.
I was once a microsoft fan – no longer. Too expensive, too buggy, too many missed deadlines (Vista now Q2 2007 or later!!!) and too many security holes.
One other thing, the prerequisite for writing a critique on a subject is a small amount of knowledge about that subject – not just mindless propoganda.
Goebels is alive and well, living in Iowa City.
not to be blunt, but your a shithole
all political bias aside,
maybe you should try using two different OS’s you’ve never used before. of course linux wont be as easy if you’ve never used it before. of course xp will seem easier if you’ve been using it your whole life
also, linux’s goal is not solely ease of use, but making a computer that doesn’t crash, and is more secure than alternatives
it also doesnt have to restart after every program install, nor for updates
and that guy up there who said use mac- surprise! mac is kinda like a pretty linux
nothing against mac tho, but i’d rather have a free OS
I’m really hung over today, and as such, missed the the fact that you were joking.
How sad the world is when one could think you were serious.
Well done by the way.
Hilarious.
I work for Bill Gates.
So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.
Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.
But trust me?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?. You don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t.
I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t know what you are talking about.
This is how bad info gets passed around.
If you dont know about the topic?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?.Don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t make yourself sound like you do.
?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Cuz some people belive anything they hear.
Wow. Tristan has absolutely no idea what Linux is or where it comes from. First of all, Red Hat Linux doesn’t exist anymore. The Fedora Project took them over a while ago. Secondly, I was using Red Hat Linux 7.3 almost 4 years ago. Secondly, FreeBSD is not an older type of Linux. It is a UNIX derivative. UNIX was made by Bell Labs in the 1970s. Also, BSD stands for Berkeley Science Distribution. As in the university. FreeBSD is also not released on magnetic tape disks. That is just ubsurd.
Also, this idiot misreads the term free. When people refer to Linux as “free,” they are speaking about free as in free speech, not as in beer. Also, the nature of Linux makes it more secure than Windows simply because of its inherit security measures. Which Windows lacks sorely. Also, Linux can be completely optimized for your solutions. You can compile whatever features you require into the kernel. This also leads to excorcising the mounds of bulk features you dont require.
Also, installers for Linux are quite user friendly now. Anaconda Installer even offers a more user friendly installer than Windows. Also, because of the awesome advances made to the Xorg server, the visuals and eye candy greatly exceed that of XP. Distributions that focus on useability like Ubuntu, even offer a more user friendly experience than XP. If you require an application to have features you can add them because you look at the code required. To borrow an analogy, image if your aunt had a recipe for a cake and gave it to you and you wanted to change it. You could. But imagine a world where this is impossible, because someone has gone out of their way to forbid you from ever seeing the recipe. Well that person would be alot like Microsoft. And your aunt would be the open source community.
Also, Shelley, I feel obligated to point out that if it werent for Apple’s Mac OS and Linux, Microsoft would have a monopoly on computer software. A monopoly, as a good upstanding American citizen would know is defeatist to the capitalist way. Human knowledge belongs to the world. Not to a select few people. I am sure I don’t have to explain what would happen if one greedy person happened to have control over all medicine. He could inflate prices however he wanted.
And to cap it up, Apple’s Mac OS outperforms Windows even on Intel’s chips and also has an easier learning curve than Windows does to the computer illiterate. I highly advise you erase Tristan’s articles. His “opinions” are only making you look stupid. This site has popped up on many tech forums on the internet. And the general response is laughter. You are being taken for a bunch of ignorant simpletons. Which by reading these articles, is exactly what you are. Do some research before making idiotic posts.
–Alex
dude 15 year olds are smarter than you, you are perhaps the most stupid person since george bush.
MR Tristan, i will not flame you for what you have done, even if it is the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever read from a IT professional, before you downloaded or bought or whatever you have done with redhat… did you go to http://www.distrowatch.com in search for other distributions? such as ubuntu dapper? i guess not, you had to use one of the worst linux distro around, why don’t you compare it to DOS ? lol that would be more interesting, that “yellow thing you said it was like outlook made me laugh my ass out” ever heard of gnome? or KDE? and mozilla firefox? why did u have to use netscape navigator… everyone know’s it’s crap, and by the way… the IRC thingy… made me laugh too, ever heard of google? or public support forums? most if not all of “GOOD” linux distro’s have one and all of them are very helpful and i’m not a c++ coder neither lolol, i still use windows… for gaming which is the only thing i can’t do 100% on linux because when games start to get released to run natively on linux, believe me, some windows users or dual OS users like me, will simply make a “mke2fs -j /dev/hdaX” (u understood me) on one thing i agree with you, some man pages are not very understandable but i can live with that, i always learn my things by myself with little or no help from others, i’ve been using linux since… 1995? 96 maybe, and i think it’s a very good project indeed, oh and another thing … “AMD has not provided drivers for LINUX” ??? omg… where do u live? everyone knows that LINUX doesn’t “need” drivers supplied with the hardware… it’s a modular kernel, that means everything can be included in the kernel itself, or loaded later by user “request” modprobe rules you know?
One more thing… i know another MCSE “MiCrosoft Solitaire Expert” too and he’s like you… he can’t see past “M$ Windows” that’s why he wasn’t chosen for my job lol because he couldn’t “evolve” himself more than M$ thingys… he was just too close minded… so if you Mr Tristan would like to share ideas on M$ and Linux, feel free to add me on MSN devilboy@sapo.pt , and i will not flame you, i’m not a IT professional (didn’t finish my studies lol) i only have High School but i think i’m up to talk to you about linux, because for what i understand… i might know a little more about linux working than you. i’m not writing all this crap to make you change your mind, but to make you know Linux better.
Best Regards
Tiago Peralta aka Devil
Okay, first of all microsoft did not invent the internet, the internet is largly based on TCP/IP which microsoft was the last to support. Also, Red Hat Linux 3 is outdated, if you did so much research why didn’t you go to http://www.redhat.com and see what products they offer now. Red hat 3 is from the early ninties, when microsoft barely had any gui at all, much like red hat. Red Hat now sells enterprise linux, which is new and has a nice gui, no cli at all if you want to avoid it. The reason linux doesnt really support active x is because it is closed source and that is moraaly wrong to use. Go and get a copy of windows 3.1 or 95 and compare those on the same machine, then write a blog about it.
And by the way, a Pentium 4 is not equivalent to an amd X2. Intel has no dual core desktop processor that can hold a candle to an X2. Also, you dont need driver disks for linux, the drivers are built into the kernel, you just have to make sure you are using the correct linux version for the job at hand. I;m actually suprised that RH3 ran on a P4 at all! BTW, the amd X2 is equivalent to a 4.8GHz intel P4 chip, approximately. So, really this is not at all a fair comparison. And dont say that the clock speeds are the same so they are equal, the amd is a true dual core, the intel is a pieced together single core long past its expiry date. And, hyperthreading is nothing, intel doesnt even use it on its new products because it is only useful in certain server related applications, and even then the gain is much less than just buying an amd processor.
Now, the command prompt is only incomprehensible if you dont know it, when I started out, it was a little awkward, but really it all made perfect sense, tell the cli what you want it to do and it will do it, the commands are the same in many cases as for windows prompts, although the linux shell bash is so far superior that microsoft will include unix shells in its next os if it ever manages to ship the thing.
Also, I should note that I use the command line everyday. I dont have to, in fact linux has a nice gui that allows me to do whatever I want, but I choose to use the cli because it is faster and allows me to do more in less time.
And, microsoft research is not independant, not when it is researching a competitors product. It might be independant of you, but not of linux. And no matter what microsoft says, it supports linux on the server side because microsoft knows linux is a better os.
I will give kudos to microsoft for doing what linux could never do, it has clogged the market with virus prone operating systems that have the market by the proverbial balls. What kind of competition doesn’t allow anyone to the choice of getting a computer preinstalled without your product, and anti-competitive product of course.
I know why you like microsoft so much, you are a republican and making good tax dollars off the sale of microsoft software through the windows tax…
BTW, those additional progrmas to install that most progrmas offer are not niceties, they are usually spyware or viruses and can do a lot of damage to your computer. Linux asks for root passwrds when you install programs so that people cannot just install programs without your knowledge and damage or commandeer your system, that is a good thing in case you dont understand that.
And just so you know, I have met more windows users who do drugs tna linux users. I myself do not do drugs, most linux users are just like windows users, except that they gace linux a FAIR chance and found that it is just as easy to use.
And, maybe you should look around you, the NSA, the FAA and many universities around the world use linux for all there needs. Looks like you rgovernment is full of liberal terrorist looking to take done George W., you better not get on a plane anytime soon, those commi bastards will be able to crash jets anytime they want now that there system is run on linux.
Linux not supporting DRM does not make it deficient, it makes linux free of that crap. I can own the property i worked so hard to buy, not if that isnt anti commi, i dont know what is. You need to learn what DRM (Digital Rights Management) is before you tought that it is a good thing o that lack of it is bad. What it does to your windows machine is corrupt it, make it vulnerable to viruses, prevent you from using the cd’s, dvd’s and the like that you bought, limiting your rights and your ownership/privelages of YOUR property. hmm, sounds good to me, after all, I use internet explorer and already deluge my computer sith so mant viruses that DRM cant possibly do any more damage..
Idiot Tristan, you are an idiot. And so is anyone that agrees with you and doesnt take the time to go out and do some research on there own. If you are right fine, but think before you speak, and take the time to verify what you say. If you look, you will see that red hat 3 is grossly outdated, and if you look a little more you will find something called SUSE linux which has developed something called xgl, which is a far more beautiful gui than anything microsoft or mac has to offer. Steve jobs may be a commi, but that is his right as an american, freedom to think, freedom to choose, freedom to speak. Freedom is what linux is about, you could say that it is as american as you can get, except that americans are hypocrites, ad do not actually value freedom at all. They value subversion, lies, propoganda and a totalitarian facist warmongering spirit that no other country can match. Yay for american, home of the clueluss.
How can you possibly be so ignorant and uneducated? I would greatly appreciate more detail in your blog. As for the lack of a drivers CD from AMD for Linux, you don’t need one. The drivers are built in to pretty much every Linux distribution. The reference to FreeBSD as being an ‘older kind of Linux’ is incorrect. Linux is Linux. FreeBSD is a whole separate operating environment that comes from a separate code base. Another thing is that BonziBuddy is actually spyware. Internet Explorer in Windows does have support for ActiveX, and it is true that Linux systems don’t have any real support for ActiveX. That is ok with me considering that quite a bit of spyware in windows installs itself through ActiveX. You say you that think it is absurd that Google and IBM are involved with Linux. Last I checked, the technological know-how at Google and IBM is insanely more than anything you could ever muster. It is too bad we were unable to get to antivirus and defragging. Linux has supported antivirus programs from: Vexira, BitDefender, F-Prot, Kaspersky, Panda Software, and a free, open source one called ClamAV, along with a few others. As for defrag, Linux auto-defrags on the fly so that you don’t have to. You refuse to learn anything that you don’t like. Because of this, I will not acknowledge you as ‘exceptionally qualified to speak on this subject’. You are not qualified. Your arguements are weak and your methods are childish. Nobody is ever ‘exceptionally qualified’. The moment one thinks so is the moment one becomes a fool. This leads one to think that they know longer have to continue learning. Never stop learning. I have been running Linux for about 4 years now. I don’t consider myself an expert and I never will. That also goes for everything that I study. I will continue to learn as much as I can as quickly as I can every day. This always keeps me from turning into a fool. You never stop learning until you go to the grave. Have a good night.
Stop already Tristan.
You have gone way beyond embarassing yourself.
I agree with you very much. I’ve also tried Linux and Windows, this is some of my commnents: when I had problems with Linux, I was give really arcane and complex instructions, and couldn’t fix the computer, by contrast, every time I had problem with Windows, the Microsoft people very quickly found the problem, and, gave me very simple solution: ‘FORMAT C:’. after that the computer worked very well, until next time it developed a problem, thankfully, again, the Microsoft people quickly analyzed the problem, and, got me to run the ‘FORMAT C:’ command again.
this site can’t be serious!
did you know that the US ARMY is using Linux and Mac OS X?
Come on, be serious.
I doubt very much that the US Army would use foreign operating systems like linux and liberals systems like mac os x. And if so, they would endanger the security of America, but like I said.. I don’t think so.
God bless you,
Shelley
I am sorry that you have so much hate your heart. Normally I would go on to point out your lies, but I feel that is what you thrive on. Chances are that this post is going to get censored anyway.
Nonetheless I would like to point out that your mail server is running Linux.
I think one of the scariest things about this, is the fact that it *might* be true.
I am aware (now) that this is an elaborate joke, but I think we all need to pause and see what’s really wrong with America: the fact that this is plausable.
Thank you both for making me more patriotic,
sean
http://www.muzik.ca
We all know the USA is using Linux. And what about the NSA with further developing SELinux? This is a Linux Security Tool. Maybe the NSA is communist as well eh? Those REDs get in everywhere!
This site is hilarious!
Woooo! the europeans are out to get you! Scary!
I’m an experienced computer programmer of 15 years and I use both Linux, UNIX (invented by American programmers btw – go read WIKI or some books for god sake) and Windows.
Linux was created, like other open-source products, because programmers like to program and they want to contribute something good to the world.
That there isn’t some fat cat business man sitting on top of it is enough to send you into a blind panic. You guys are so paranoid and screwed up you can’t imagine doing anything for the love of it, it has to involve money. Open your eyes.
The fact is, Linux is more secure than windows, everyone knows this. I wouldn’t be suprised if the US military are using it in some form or another.
And lastly, what ever happened to the free market? You scared of a little competition from some european hippies? I thought your american dream was more robust than that.
“Reality is a liberal plot” – and you lot have really lost the plot.
Maybe when your cowboy president has been ejected and Mrs Clinton is in charge you can come in from the cold, and stop being the propaganda-peddling pariahs you currently are.
Oh, and one other blatant inaccuracie (some people prefer to call them lies).
IBM has massive investment in Linux and they contribute to its development:
http://www-1.ibm.com/linux/
Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good opinion, right? lol
Ah, the epitome or idiocy and ignorance. As for your precious Dept. of Homeland Security or perhaps your Nat. Security Agency… well let us have a look what they are running, shall we? Oh, Linux, that’s right. Mhh. The NSA seems to following the same trends. Actually the NSA uses and develops Linux so much they’ve created SELinux… http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/
By the way, you web hosts are still identifying themselves as running UNIX/Linux.
The comments in your comparison just go to show the level of your “computing expertise”.
What do you need to become Microsoft Certified these days, not a lot obviously. I have believed for a long time now that MS qualifications were pointless bits of paper, and this just confirms it.
I work in IT and have done for many years now, and computers have been a hobby for over 20 years.
In that time I have installed most OS’es, windows 100’s of times and have found more problems with drivers within the windows OS than any linux installation.
In my work, windows is the main OS as there are many users who know nothing really about computers so feel more comfortable with windows, but whenever security, performance or stability are an issue, linux is used, as this is by far the better option.
Oh, and by the way, if you had problems finding the latest linux distributions then you should learn to use a search engine, there are plenty around but google is probably one of the best :). Learn this and you will find dozens of choices for your linux OS some specifically adjusted for particular types of requirements unlike the VERY limited options for windows which seems to use the “one size fits all” approach.
One last suggestion, when you put “facts” up on your website, make sure they are really facts and not just opinions based on your limited knowledge/research.
The comments in your comparison just go to show the level of your “computing expertise”.
What do you need to become Microsoft Certified these days, not a lot obviously. I have believed for a long time now that MS qualifications were pointless bits of paper, and this just confirms it.
I work in IT and have done for many years now, and computers have been a hobby for over 20 years.
In that time I have installed most OS’es, windows 100’s of times and have found more problems with drivers within the windows OS than any linux installation.
In my work, windows is the main OS as there are many users who know nothing really about computers so feel more comfortable with windows, but whenever security, performance or stability are an issue, linux is used, as this is by far the better option.
Oh, and by the way, if you had problems finding the latest linux distributions then you should learn to use a search engine, there are plenty around but google is probably one of the best :). Learn this and you will find dozens of choices for your linux OS some specifically adjusted for particular types of requirements unlike the VERY limited options for windows which seems to use the “one size fits all” approach.
One last suggestion, when you put “facts” up on your website, make sure they are really facts and not just opinions based on your limited knowledge/research.
hehe, damn facts getting in the way of truth!
This article is wrong in so many levels that a rewrite is in order, i just learnt that apparently microsoft invented the internet and the modern microcomputer, that bsd is an older version of linux and that rpms are part of linux somehow. In case you didnt know, which you obviously dont, rpms are part of the package management, which is in turn distro specific. Linux is just the kernel and due to the freedom it allows for, groups of people can get a bunch of apps together and release their own distribution. So yeah, bobby, rpms are not a part of linux and you know absolutely close to 0 about linux, which is not surprising seeing as you liste d MSCE as one of your “qualifications”.
P.S but it was pretty funny, thanks for that :)
Great article! It gives me two options: Tristan is a writer with a subtle kind of humor or my perception of managers (in generel) is absolutely and without a doubt correct :)
If your new to linux you might want to try KNOPPIX the latest version is 5.0.1 It should work on most new computers with out any modification. Burn the cd/dvd iso and boot. Just that simple If you have a LAN and a network card BANG! your connected to the internet. You don’t have to install anything. Leaving your harddrive free for all your data, or if you like you can have windows on it. You might be suprised to learn that you can open most of your Microsoft Word, Excell, Access, and Powerpoint documents. The latest version of Firefox has most of the plug-ins you want available(Firefox works on Windows too).
You might want to learn C and C++ It will help you do more with your computer wether you use linux, windows, or any operating system for that matter.
So you know I’ve installed the bible on my debian system (thats another linux distrobution)and can read it just fine, its one of the standard packages available.
It is true that you have to learn more to use linux then you do to use windows, But learning that little bit will help you keep both your windows and linux systems spyware, virus, and hacker free.
In your article you admittedly used an old version of Redhat. You should have stopped there and got a new version to do your comparison.
Apparently you know as little about computers as you do about christianity. I got the bigest laugh when I read that you were upset about political correctness ruining our holidays(something that upsets me very much as well). Then you started talking about the Easter bunny being a christian symbol. What does an egg toting bunny have to do with the resurection of christ. The bunny, a spring time fertility symbol, was adopted for Easter to ease the transition to christianity for a group of (for lack of a better word)pegans.
Please do some real research and write a new article comparing windows and linux for real. Explain how dificult it is to do the things that are realy dificult in both Operating Systems and what things are easy(you should find many in all four catagories). You might learn something(that wouldn’t hurt would it). Even better you might teach something(real).
If you use gentoo or another source distrobution (one of the more challenging, and time consuming methods of installing linux) you’ll find that you can compile linux and its opensource companion utilities for any cpu you like(Intel, Amd, Motorola, older systems like commodore 64, and many microcontrollers for use in embedded applications like point of sale kiosks, robots, portable mp3 players, even play station portable). You’ll even be able to take advantage of the 64bit processor that you used for your 32bit only windows installation. You might be surprised to learn that TIVO(something that I consider evil) runs on linux.
The idea behind Open source is that all of us, communist(like Jesus), socialist(like FDR, Carl Marks, and Joseph Stallen), Capitolist(like Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, and Alexander Hamilton), Imperialist(like George W. Bush, Julius Caesar, and Teddy Roosevelt), and Eliteist(like me) can all do whatever we please to or with our software. There is no free lunch. The price you must pay is in the time you spend learning. But learning is important. In a closed source environment all sorts of sneaky malicious code can hide somewhere you or I will never be able to find it. Learning is slowed to a halt. The terrorist threat that we(Americans) face is not in Europe or abroad, it’s right here in america. Its anti-competetion, psudo-christian, psudo-conservative radicals, that make our tax structure increasingly opressive, fail to balance a butget, and enslave all mankind with large monopolies that discourage creativity and higher learning to foster a culture of codependancy and shopping.
When will the “Salem Witch Trials” end. My ancestors came to this country (some of whom fought on both sides of The American Revolution) to flee from opression and taxes. They’d be sick to their stomachs if they could see what we’ve done to their legacy. All that blood has been spilled for naught.
By the way the picture of “Tux”(the penguin) that you used on your previous post happens to be copyright Larry Ewing. He generously allows you to use his artwork and any derivatives there of with the provision that you credit him for his work, which you failed to do. That would make you thieves, but don’t worry even though you are blasphemous, theving, liars(your credentials preclude your ignorance), Jesus forgives you. After all thats the christian thing to do(even though he was Jewish).
You got me really worried for a while. You went a bit too overboard this time and it gave you away. What worries me now is that some don’t recognise the satire this site is, but actually believe in everything you say.
I hope some people will wake up and smell the coffee, too.
Bwahahahahahahaha, this article is brilliant (as was the last one). I laughed when I read the article, I cried when I read the comments – I think people need to get their Sarcasm Chip (TM) upgraded!
Dear Tristan,
I believe that you are an expert in IT. I am not – I am a common user and a businessman (aged 51) . But understranding of Open Source technology is a philosofical problem, not technical. I am using Linux in my company having no single problem with a security or stability of a system. I can assure you that you can make your GUI according to your wish – it can look like “Microsoft style”, or other style. I have all important programs available in my distribution (Debian) – web browsers, Open Office, support of scanners, digital camera, printers, networking, etc.
No viruses, no troyans. I know big companies using Linux successfully (e.g. Bata in my country).
There is a world-wide team working on the programs. If some malicious program is entering, during few minutes someone finds a bug and give a report to all. The security is therefore very high.
I have nothing against Microsoft: my opinion is that in a near future both systems will have their place in the IT branch and everyone can choose the system that suits him.
I wish you a lot of success in your future work
Dalibor
You surprise me a lot.
When Microsoft brought us Internet and Web? Guess what? Internet developed itself from usenet. By the way, Unixes had network support even before DOS was bought by Microsoft and sold.
Second, you probably were told that it was 3.0 RedHat Enterprize Linux, which is quite new, but comercial. RedHat 3.0 is a way too old. (Year ago, I had RedHat 9.0 on my computer and it was old in that time already).
AMD did not provide you with a CD with drivers? Why? Was there something that would not work without such a CD? You guess, most linux distros work just after the instalation, you do not need any of these drivers.
And why do you thing Linux comes from BSDs? You are wrong here. GNU/Linux system – that’s what you are talking about – was developd from the ground. It is just written by Single Unix Specification, which means it is _compatible_ with BSDs. They both are like the original UNIX. That’s all.
So, do you think anyone will even read so long article, full of insane, half-true, information? You should really meet your doctor. You and your nice America. You know, you are a big country, but you are not the whole wrold. And if you will continue like this, then probably you will end up the world will not need you at all. If you think you can dictate the world with computers, the rest of world will just ignore you and you “rights” (I do not know, where you got to the idea people have rights to do something and to control others), and make their own computers.
BTW, if you want a GNU/Linux (Linux itself means only the kernel of it, something that is useless alone), try Gentoo for example. The system is not shiped in boxes, you just download a bootstrap CD and build your system on your computer with the lates packages of software. And it goot to psychics as well, first, the instalation takes some time, so you learn what patience means ;-), and secondly, you are the one who controls the system, not someone who made it. It is better co control computers than people, they like it, many people don’t.
Dear Tristan and Shelley: I’m considering building a statue of you two, where I can honour your great sense of humour :)
Can you please send me a mail so I could get your pictures, so I can get to work on it as soon as possible?
Best wishes, an european (dont shoot me) fan :)
mail: monument(a)2epsilon.com
Thanks for the laugh, second article by you i’ve read, your truely an idiot. Long live linux.
Also try using an up to date version of Linux!!
H??Ǭ©h??Ǭ©, very hilarious, dude !
In the country where I live there are many MSCE’s. According to what I see from their employment they are mostly utilised for the delivering of pizza. It seems that this is also the job they are _most_ suited for. ;P
Please let me remind you that George W. Bush IS an Alcoholic. In fact, when you’re addict to something, you can control your addiction and stop doing whatever it is (in Mr. Bush case, drinking alcohol), but you’ll be addict to it your entire life, and you can not even try a small dose never ever.
So maybe that laptop was Mr Bush’s laptop.
Hello Tristan,
thanks for making the world better – laugh is very important part of life and make us more healthy. And also thanks to shelleytherepublican.com for publishing such very good ironical parodies of Microsoft, G.W.Bush, God, and their antipoles (Linux, Osama, communists and Satan).
Really great job! I wish you (and us, of course!) very similar good masterpieces. Did you, shelleytherepublican.com team, ever think about fusion with comedycentral.com? I think, you invented new style of IT-joking, patent it yet today!
Good luck, man!
ostry (ostrochovsky AT rec.uniba.sk)
“invented both the Internet and the world-wide web”
Oh dear. Talk about hanging yourself by your own rope…
Right on, Tristan! You tell’em!
Finally a FAIR review that shatters the myth of the Linux so-called “Operating System”. I know it is correct, because I sadly have had to put up with this COMMUNIST CRAP at my workplace in the last years.
May I add one point on another Linux myth, its supposed “security”. It is said that Linux is almost virus free. Why, that is because Linux is too INCAPABLE to execute any virus at all! Your review makes it clear that it can only be used by POT SMOKING HIPPIES to get “loaded” (as they say), not for serious applications such as BonziBuddy or viruses.
Also, I have to WARN every one of your readers against visiting any of the web sites numerous ungodly Linux zealots have posted in their derogatory comments to your article. These websites (including one in COMMUNIST GERMANY, for Christ’s sake!) are run by DANGEROUS ANARCHISTS, who would not hesitate to infect your computer with viruses which would kill it! And that is not all! They can note down every visitor who surfs to their website and you would end up in ANARCHIST DATA BASES! This is a well known fact among more technical minded people. No god-fearing honest USA citizen could want that!
And to all you evil people spilling your hateful slander of you, Microsoft and America all over this patriotic web site I can only say, your words really disclose your meanness. May GOD forgive you, I cannot.
God bless AMERICA and deliver us from the satanic Linux!
Great writing! I must compliment you on your two fine articles (although I couldn’t finish reading the second, I was loosing bladder control).
For your genuine contribution to expand the limits of human stupidity beyond our wildest dreams, I award you the “Braindead Prize 2006″.
Congratulations!
“…I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web…”
First, microsoft do not gave us a modern
computer but a operating system. Second,
Microsoft do not invented Internet nor WWW.
“Naturally we tested the latest version of both operating systems. For Windows we chose the 2003 edition, available at almost every computer retailer in our country. Finding the latest version of Linux proved a challenge in itself”
First,you can download FREE the last version of Red Hat directly from red had(Can you do the same from Microsoft?).Second, there are many distributions of Linux apart from Red hat(do you know what is Mandriva or Suse).
“But what about Netscape?”
Did you know that last versions of Linux have Firefox(Do you know what is it?)
Now that’s funniest thing I have read this week! I love how your facts are completely wrong..cracks me up…as someone out there will believe this.
I should say that lets not pray for the devil – Micro$oft
I will soon show my own comparition of Kubuntu 5.10 on pentium 4 against windows 3.11 in 486dx4
The 75% of the internet is running on Linux(Linuxo Live), while 13% is run on Windows and 2% other, it is 100% safer, it is cheaper, and more stable. The only problem is the interface, Windows is more simple, but Linux is better and faster.
Confirmed, this I cannot be in serious, with the one of claria, a well-known spyware no longer have left doubts. This Web she is humorous, I amuse much, in special with the one of the desktop of Linux TWM, that is very basic, so that not to use an image of Gnome or KDE? so that it would damage the joke. In special with Netscape, so that Firefox did not use? Clear so that the old-fashioned illusion would be lost. Thanks for the laughter.
xD Great job, I’ve been laughing all the time.
Bill gates bless you.
Shelley, Tristan,
I wasn’t sure before, but this article was just too funny to be real. You guys make Ann Coulter look liberal! I get it, you don’t want to get off your act, and admit it’s all satire. That’s cool. Anyway, keep it up.
What’s *really* disturbing is some of the comments from some of the visitors to this site…
Cheers,
A.
I have an opinion for both sides.
Shelley, provide your links or sources where you got your information from. This will make you point more believable and less room for error and speculation. By the way, a link to Microsoft saying Linux is bad is pointless and does nothing to support your cause. Linux will say the same for Microsoft.
Pro-Linux users, easy on the flaming. If you do think Linux is better, provide some links, stores where you can buy Linux, or any source to support your theory.
Come on now guys, opinions based soley on personal preferences are bias. All statements should be based in fact. This is grade school textbook stuff people. Did you guys study how to write research papers?
I’m sorry some think this is funny. But people can really be like this in the USA, and this is very sad. It does not matter if this blog is fake or real, on the real side, see previous statement. On the fake side, no I don’t find it funny because it supports the typical american stereotype which is parlayed by most of the rest of the world. Undermining the rest of the world’s faith in americans who really are intelligent is quite damaging in opinion, and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
If Shelley and Tristan are true christians, they should also be deeply ashamed of themselves, bow thier heads, and humble themselves before our lord.
(g*d and not jesus, as he is the son of our lord, and NOT our lord, so stop confusing!, I refer you to the 10 commandments, Thou shalt NOT hold other god’s before me. And that includes the divine offspring there-of.)
I also must inform you that REAL facts show that these opinions (of shelley and tristan) only represent 17% of the population of the united states.
shame on you all.
Quite amazing you have made so many people mad using info so flagrantly outdated, you have earned all this (bad) publicity (and the dimes from google) in a nice way… please inform me on the next joke you post
After all, the peoples that self call “smart” has fallen nicely in the trap
Cheers from Uruguay
after all… linux had to be patched to be able to run a virus!!!! they are so servile that are thriving to get the viruses form windows
How are those CPU’s equivalent? A 2ghz AMD X2 (Which i have) Can outperform a 3 Ghz Pentium anytime, it doesnt take a microsoft certified bafoon to realize that, just look at the benchmarks out there… i am 19 and i had Linux (fedora core 2), windows XP Pro, Windows XP 64 bit, AND OS x, booting (with a boot selection menu) all at ONE TIME. All of this without a hitch… if you’re certified by microsoft, then it means nothing to me now, hell, i need to get certified. You dont seem to need to know much at all and you can make money at it. Just keep digging your hole and Try a live PHLAK cd… you dope (and PS… god hates it when you lie, or make it seem as if you KNOW EVERYTHING so if there is a god i will see you in hell)
Ok, no I’m sure – this is definitely a joke… There’s no way you could be for real :-D
Man, to compare win2003 with a redhat3.0 (which is 10 years old and i can’t even imagine where it could be downloaded), that’s what I call objectivity… Keep up the good work :o))
PS: What about comparing ms dos to linux the next time? ;-)
Tristan.
Know this: you aren’t shattering any disillusions. We are all laughing at you. All of us, and the number of people grows by the hour. Thank God that morons can find a job in the church or working for M$, otherwise you’d be screwed. Think about that, if you can, before touching your keyboard.
More education for you Tristan, about 15 seconds of research on Linux computers hosted by Google would have allowed you to check the fact that the internet was not invented by your beloved MS or in fact any American. A British scientist beat you to that particular honour.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3357073.stm
Good luck with the rest of your reasearch.
Hey Linux guys, Tristan is ROFL because you believe him… He must be a real geek, because he knows what makes us, the linux geeks, laugh. Go to a local LUG meeting and write down the jokes you’ll hear there and then compare (maybe diff will be enough ;) your list with this article and you’ll see the similarities…
P.S.: Windows meets Linux on a street. Linux asks Windows: “Who are you?” Windows looks around, if there’s nobody listening and whispers: “I’m an operating system.” Then he asks Linux the same question. Linux also looks around, if there’s nobody close enough to hear him and silently answers: “I’m an unix.”
:-)
Love it, love it, love it
More, more, more
Please, please, please
It’s even better to read the reactions of the linux community.
if Person.Humour then
Person.Linux_User = false ??????
:)
cretin, you still tink it’s a joke?
it isn’t.
shally is dead-serious.
_SHE_CONFIRMED_IT_
so it’s not about humor.
neither about linux for me (and yes, i use linux)
it’s about her being like Hitler.
it’s about her being completely disinformed and pretending to be right.
I love you guys!
Microsoft Certified Engineer => Moron that pays Microsoft to award him the “Engineer” label.
Real Engineer => Someone who has actually acquired a university degree, in fields of Mechanical, Aero, Chemical, Bio, Electrical, Space, etc.
Your poor testing methods just goes to show you ain’t no engineer to begin with.
Geez. I’m never supporting the republicans again. Next time i’m woting for the democrats.
I honestly feel sick after reading this entry. I support our wonderful country, our President, and it’s unfortunate that people like you have to be such “loud” supporters as well. It’s ignorant, misinformed boasts like this that gives us an “ignorant” image.
To both of you (I think typing your names and addressing you properly would be an absolute waste of my time and give you too much credit):
Whoever wrote this, as previously mentioned, has *absolutely* no idea what they’re talking about. My background is in Software Development, ~10 years experience on both *nix and Windows platforms. You “IT” clowns would have nothing to do it wasn’t for us, and being as such, aren’t completely qualified to make this comparison. For the record, being an “MCSE” (if that’s even real), would immediately drop your crediblity in doing such a comparison on your own – you should have kept that to your self.
The blog entry is just laughable. What I found extremely appauling was not in the article itself, but in the comments. Of particular interest is the entry from the author of this blog, stating that our government and military would never use such an operating system (which by the way, “Linux” is not an operating system – it’s kernel, or a core module around which to “package” an operating environment around). This is absolutely foolish. Having worked on several DoD projects myself, as well has having associates building software for Civilian government, Solaris/Linux/BSD/etc is used ***extensively***. For DoD and military projects, it is used FAR more than Windows. Not to say Windows is not used (CBT software, for example – Windows is ideal). All it would take to prove my point is to go to a big government agency or contractor’s website, such as NASA, Lockheed-Martin, Northrop-Grumman, Raytheon Missle Systems, etc., and look at the jobs being advertised….I *guarantee* 90-95% of software development jobs will be for developing software on *nix platforms…and you’ll be very hard pressed to find *any* for Windows.
Please don’t post crap like this. You’re an embarrassment to all of us.
If Linux is so and and so inferior, why on earth do NASA use it and not windows on their supercomputers?
Ranked the fourth fastest supercomputer in the world on the November 2005 Top500 list, Columbia has increased the NASA?s total high-end computing, storage, and network capacity tenfold. This has enabled advances in science not previously possible on NASA?s high-end systems. It sits at the NASA Advanced Supercomputing (NAS) Facility at the Ames Research Facility. It consists of a 10,240-processor SGI Altix system comprised of 20 nodes, each with 512 Intel Itanium 2 processors, and running a Linux operating system
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/universe/gwave_feature.html
And why are Novell developing Suse Linux?
For that matter, why did Microsoft employ Gentoo Linux’s head programmer to teach their own teams about open-source software if it’s so bad?
Hi Tris
[quote]For example, this rugged IBM laptop I am using was designed and built by an American company.[/quote]
I wondered if you knew that IBM sold the laptop / PC division to the Chinese [Lenovo] and that all hardware is built in China? They own the trademark rights ’til 2010? Maybe Tristan is a decendent of the survivors of the failed Chinese invasion that tunnelled through the Earth in the 1950’s?
Croc Hunter
If I had the stomach to type more I would but most of the world runs on some form linux please research because as much as you think you are not a microsoft fan girl microsoft has brain washed that hollow head of yours for the true latest version of linux try http://fedora.redhat.com/ or for a dozen other types try http://distrowatch.com/ and the only reason Osama has it on his laptop is that it crashes less than Windows and most of the rest of Computer compendent world uses so please and ireiterate please research before you ever touch a instrument communication again
Some readers of the ShelleyTheRepublican.com blog complained that my recent critique of the Linux computer program was unfair;
True.
They claimed that I was ignorant and therefore unqualified to review their product
False. Claims that can be substantiated are facts. It’s not ignorance when it’s intentional.
moreover they stated that my opinions were biased therefore untrustworthy.
False. Your opinions are untrustworthy because you use unreliable information. Your opinions are your opinions though and you’re free to have them. Even if they are ill informed.
Shelley has given me the opportunity to defend myself; to tell you a little bit about myself and the methodologies I have used to evaluate Windows and Linux.
True. Hence this followup article.
This is also my opportunity to shoot down some of the more fanciful theories that have been proposed in response to my previous warning.
True. Though whether you’re successful or not is a separate issue.
I am a former IT manager from a major city in Oklahoma. I am also vice-president of IT for our regional Prayer Team.
Unconfirmed. While you probably have used computers in your previous employment, without any idea of what your job entailed doesn’t help much with your credentials. As a note IT Managers are ‘Managers’. Doesn’t necessarily mean they know a lot about computers but it does mean they are responsible for the people handling the IT department (even if it consists of only the IT Manager). I also fail to see the importance of being VP of IT in your regional prayer team. But if you think it’s important you’re free to list it. I would be interested to know what your current job is.
Some years ago I’m proud to say that I graduated as a Microsoft Certified Engineer;
True. I’m positive you’re proud. Then I again I don’t care much to MCE, MCP, MCSE or other qualifications. Especially ones that are several years old meaning you’re not qualified for current generation software. But when I’m hiring I tend to reject those that list such qualifications. In my mind you must already meet that level without the qualification. It demonstrates that you can adapt to later revisions in MS-OS’s (as we will move to Vista a few months after its release).
I have a wide understanding of both technical and business computing issues.
True. But this ties in with you being VP of IT for a Prayer Team. In relative terms you have a wide understanding from what you’ve experienced. Having headed my Software Solutions firm for 15 years, I have the same wide understanding from what I’ve experienced.
I am sure you will agree that I am exceptionally qualified to speak on this subject.
Partial. Agreeing with you is down to each individual. From my perspective, I wouldn’t see you qualified to provide 1st level technical support. But that’s only my perspective. People that think they have above average computer knowledge when all they do is browse website would think otherwise.
As for bias, I am not a Microsoft Fan-boy? or any of the hundreds of more offensive things I have been called.
Most likely True. With meeting you it’s difficult to confirm any of the offensive names.
I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.
True. I’m positive you have such admirations. But those admirations are just down to not doing any research.
Where would we have been without Microsoft? Perhaps typing obscure Russian commands into a barely comprehensible command-prompt on a Chinese made computer.
False. We’d still be typing English. We’d just be using some evolution of OS/2 from IBM. I find it strange that you don’t realise how much of your computer is in fact Chinese. But I’ll put this down to poor research.
And as for our methods of evaluation: They are based on exactly the same bench-tests used by PC Magazine, which is the world’s most trusted IT journal.
True. They’re “based” on the same bench-test. But much like how some movies are “based” on a true story even though only the primary characters name is all that is brought into the movie. Such basis of comparison damages the reputation of PC Magazine.
We prepared two nearly identical machines.
False. You prepared what you thought were identical machines.
The windows rig was based on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 2Ghz chip, whereas the Linux machine was based on an Intel Pentium 4 2Ghz.
True. I have no reason to doubt this. Though an Athlon64 X2 that runs at 2ghz is an Athlon64 X2 3800+. I’ll just put that one down to a typo.
We would have liked to test Linux on an Athlon as well, however AMD would not provide us with a Linux driver CD;
True. AMD has always been unwilling to provide such CD’s. You don’t need drivers to use an Athlon64 chip in Linux.
In any case both of these chips were approximately equal in power because the Intel chip had has Hyperthreading.
False. While you may be able to use the Windows operating system, you obviously do not understand the difference between multi-process and multi-threaded software. Additionally AMD has stated the AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ (2ghz) is equivalent to a 3.8ghz Pentium 4. Additionally there has been no P4 chip sold that comes with Hyper Threading at a stock speed of 2.0ghz. While there are Pentium4 chips that run 2ghz stock, these did not come with Hyper Threading. This I’ll attribute to very poor research.
Naturally we tested the latest version of both operating systems.
False. Will e indicated later with your selection of Linux distribution.
For Windows we chose the 2003 edition, available at almost every computer retailer in our country.
Partial. Unfortunately “Windows 2003″ is in fact called “Windows Server 2003″. It is an operating system targeted for the server market space and should not be used in the desktop space. It includes components that are not used in the desktop space that affect the operating system’s performance. Please amend your article not to use Windows Server 2003 as people that upgrade to the system may complain about its performance and hence damage Microsoft’s reputation. This one I cannot put down to poor research.
Finding the latest version of Linux proved a challenge in itself:
True. You are trying to obtain ‘Linux’. This is equivalent of obtaining the latest version of ‘NTKERNEL’. If you do not understand this difference or what NTKERNEL is then I’m afraid it is true that you are not qualified to make a comparison between Windows based and Linux based operating systems. This is not only down to poor research, but poor education.
We had been told that the newest version of RedHat Linux was version 3.0, which for a flagship product was surprisingly hard to find.
True. You were told it was the latest. It’s just your source was unreliable. True though that it is difficult to find as it has been superseded by a number of generations. Much like How Windows 3.0 have been superseded by Windows XP. This is of course unless your source was referring to RedHat Enterprise v3.0. At that point I retract my statement about your source. It would be you who does not pay attention to details and has done poor research.
When we did locate it, we were astonished to be told that it was “quite old” and that RedHat no longer provided any level of technical support for it.
True. But that it is the equivalent of Microsoft no longer providing support for Windows v3.0. Of which we recently ran into issues with one of our clients. Short product support lifetime tends to be standard. My company policy is software is supported for a maximum of 5 years unless specifically noted in the contract. All clients are told of this when signing. This is one point that I must say Microsoft has not too well with as they do not tell consumers of their product support lifetime.
When we opened the shrink-wrap box we were astounded to find that it contained a large set of floppy-disks.
True. I’m positive you were astounded. Then again since you’re experience in IT only goes back “some years”, you wouldn’t have heard of the Windows v3.X range which also came on floppy disks.
I cannot imagine what Redhat were thinking in this age of DVDs; still this would be a step up from the magnetic-tapes upon which FreeBSD is normally supplied (Free BSD is an older kind of Linux).
True/False. I’m positive you couldn’t imagine a world where operating system came on floppy disks as your experience only goes back “some years”. Of the FreeBSD comment this is completely false. This cannot be attributed to too research. This was an intentional.
After a number of failures, we managed to take the tedious floppy-disk based installation to it’s conclusion.
True. Given your relative level of knowledge I’m positive you had quite a number of failures.
We could not have been more disappointed.
True. Having grown accustomed to the Windows style ‘theme’ you were most likely expecting similar. This shows a poor level of adaptation to changes in computing.
The GUI seemed garish and hard to use.
True. For your level of computer adaptation. Though a more experienced user would be able to use the system if all they were given is a command prompt (of which I?m beginning to think you have not used before).
It was a woeful mish-mash of primary colors and clashing visual styles.
True. The color system was poor in such an outdated version.
We had become accustomed to Microsoft’s visual sophistication.
True. This is what I meant by having grown accustomed to the Windows style.
The crude Linux desktop was a shock to our poor eyes:
A typical Linux desktop: Note in yellow the Linux “equivalent” to Microsoft’s Outlook.
True. Though I am surprised you managed to change the background image from the default but did not find how to make it use VGA color instead of EGA color.
Is this really the best that Linux had to offer? We decided to gloss over the superficial aspects of the interface and get down to actual usability.
True. In that you would ask the question. The answer would be no though. Please search for the word ‘Fedora’. While I believe Windows will be my company’s OS of choice for more years to come, you should always be aware of what the “latest” from competing products are. You obviously do not. I question you research abilities.
The Linux installation did not include a web-browser, but according to the manual one could be easily installed using Linux’s RPM utility.
True. Though this has been of much debate. Microsoft has provided a free web-browser with their operating system. This effectively shutout competing products. While a web browser my company has produced was superior in security to Internet Explorer, we lost market share due to Microsoft giving their product away for free. We closed the product line and filed an anti-trust suit. Microsoft settled with us outside of court. As for “easily installed” I too would say this is a bit far fetched.
After spending half an hour trying to decode the man page, we were able to install the latest version of Netscape Navigator, the new browser from Firefox.
False. I do not believe you figured out how to find information from the ‘man pages’. Additionally Netscape Navigation is not the new browser from Firefox. Firefox is not a company, it is the name of the software product. Mozilla is the name of the company. This is not poor research. This is plainly a low level of intelligence and inability to mentally string pieces of information to coherent structure.
This truly uncompelling start contrasts profoundly with the Windows installation experience.
True. I’m should you found the difference profound given your level of ability.
There was no need to download a web-browser for Windows (Microsoft thoughtfully decided to integrate one with their operating system), so instead we downloaded a small shareware productivity utility called BonziBuddy.
True. Internet Explorer comes integrated with Windows 9x/NT based systems. Though I do not see why you saw the need to download BonziBuddy. Unless you have trouble locating applications Microsoft packages with its system.
Most commonly used productivity tools are not available on Linux; For example, this program uses Microsoft Agent technology which has not yet been ported to Linux.
True. This is because they are written to work on Windows and are hence the Windows versions are incompatible with Linux systems. Microsoft Agent technology is proprietary. As such Microsoft will not allow it to be used on another system without being paid. And rightly so since they created the technology.
The installation couldn’t have been simpler; The install icon appeared on my desk. All I had to do to install the program was double-click on it. There were no additional passwords to type in and as an additional courtesy to users, Windows installers often include extra programs that might be of interest.
True. Though this is a concern. I have not used BonziBuddy. But if all you need to do is ‘double-click’ to install and it is on your computer then this is a security issue Microsoft should be notified of. BonziBuddy is not a program Microsoft created and could in fact be a front for malicious software crackers. If it does install additional programs, it could be used to install program to obtain your personal information while you are using the Internet. It could masquerade as the ’svchost.exe’ process. If you have several of this process running you should disconnect the Internet and re-install Windows.
For example, my download included Claria, and Comet-Cursor. A review of these utilities is outside the scope of this article, nonetheless it was gratifying that the makers of Windows software have the freedom to innovate.
False. Both utilities were not created by Microsoft. Anti-virus software, even from Microsft, recognises Comet-cursor and Claria as malicious software. I have contact Microsoft to see if this is a mistake and they clearly stated that both a malicious software that obtains personal information. Please do not install BonziBuddy.
The same could not be said for Linux. In the time that it took me to install three great utilities, I had barely managed a single Linux installation.
True. Given your level of ability I had not doubt it took you longer to install three utilities than it did to install the operating system.
Had it not occurred to the makers of Linux that their users might wish to use the Internet?
True. In that the question you asked is true. The answer was yes. Hence later version of the system came packaged with a web browser. Much like how very early version of Windows did not come with a web browser.
Installation of some basic software required a complex series of commands and passwords to be entered.
True. But this is a security issue. Linux systems tend to require you to be ‘authorised’ to change something that may affect system stability. This I also find an annoyance. However I do not believe the Windows approach of letting anything on the system be installed is much better. Somewhere in the middle is a friendlier and secure solution.
Now what can we say of the Windows browsing experience? Many of you will be familiar with Internet explorer. Millions of Americans have grown accustomed to it’s ease of use, slick presentation and universal compatibility;
True. Many people are familiar with IE. Though universal compatibility is questionable as the web browser does not conform to standards that even Microsoft itself had created.
But what about Netscape? This is how the STR site appears to a Linux User. The images are jumbled, the layout appears random.
True. Though you have not stated what version of the web browser you are using (they are up to v8.1 from memory). In testing IE v3.0, STR does not appear any better. Netscape Navigator is known to have problems. IE you claim is ‘Universally Compatible’.
The experience as you can see was somewhat surreal: Images appeared jumbled fonts were bizarrely out of proportion and the vast majority of websites simply failed to load.
True. Netscape has issues rendering websites.
I imagine this is how pot-heads must see the world; I suspect that only a pot-head would assume that this is how the rest of the world is supposed to appear!
True. That is your opinion.
As expected, this browser lacked many of the basic features that Microsoft’s users take for granted. For example, it was incompatible with Active X, an exciting technology from Microsoft that allows plugins to be instantly loaded.
True. Microsoft ActiveX is proprietary technology created by Microsoft. They will not allow its use in other software unless it is paid. And rightly so as they created the technology. I would debate how ‘good’ this technology is as our security division reports at least 3-4 security issues with the plugin system to Microsoft each month. Many are not critical though, but Microsoft is happy to put corrections in updates when they are released.
On Windows, these are seamlessly downloaded and installed in the background, usually without causing any interruption to the user;
True. This is a security concern we have raised with Microsoft. We discovered hackers could use ActiveX to install malicious programs on windows. Also when asked if you want to install such plugins and you say ‘No’ it continues to install it anyway. Microsoft is working on correcting this issue to ensure the safety of its users. This security issue is apparent in all versions of IE that support ActiveX.
On Linux, a simple browser plugin apparently requires extensive knowledge of the command-shell; Once again, we asked ourselves why Linux users would be willing to put up with this?
True. For the Netspace Navigator. For the Firefox Web Browser it’s 3 step process. Firefox is nice though in they have library of plugins you can browse. While I find them mainly useless, they are some clients find interesting.
Finally we looked at support; Access to technical information is important for any software. Microsoft offered an extensive knowledge base in addition to a commercial, per incident based support line.
True. The knowledge base is a good resource for people with issues. This also helps reduce the workload on the load on the support lines of which there tend to be reasonable waiting times. I advise people to use the knowledge base.
While the support was friendly and expert we felt no need to consult Microsoft.
True. But I would question this. If you had not recently updated your certification you may have run into areas of difference between the Windows 9x and NT based system. If you do not know what 9x or NT based system are, then I do not believe you are MCE certified nor believe you are qualified to compare Windows with Linux.
On the other hand, Redhat’s product was baffling from the start.
True. I believe you found it difficult to know where to look for help with Linux.
Lacking any official support channel, we turned to something called IRC for help. Lacking offices, or immigration visas, many Linux developers often use IRC as a means of communication.
True. You ignorantly sought help from IRC. I would attribute this to one of your sources giving you poor information. However I think this is more a case that you didn’t know who to ask and went to John Doe for help. Much like asking a Waiter how to re-assemble your internal combustion engine. When you ask the right people you’ll get the right answers.
We were quite baffled as to how anybody might expect to get any assistance at all, the whole IRC experience resembled a sordid on-line brothel:
True. I believe anything Linux related to baffle you given your level of abilities.
The #linux channel, seemed to be a venue of immorality; I would not wish my wife or children to use this service. It appeared to be some sort of pick-up venue.
True. You though it was a place of immorality. Mainly because you didn’t understand any of the text that was being displayed.
We soon gave up expecting to find any help at all; I expect that this is what any Linux user who is not fluent in C++ will have to do eventually.
True. Much like if you keep asking Waiter for help with your engine you’ll expect that no-one can help you. I would like to ask if you know what C++ is. Just to be sure you think you are using the term correctly. You generally don’t need to know C++ to use Linux. Though knowledge of scripting and command line interfaces will assist a great deal.
In conclusion; the much hyped combination of Linux and Mozilla’s “Netscape Navigator” does not measure up to Microsoft’s latest offering.
False/True. Mozilla is not associated with Netscape Navigator. True that the version you used does not measure up to IE v7.0 (beta).
While I feel Linux might be applicable to certain niche applications, I for one couldn’t think what that application might be.
True. Given you do not understand how the Internet operates nor have any concept how computer can inter-operate, I wouldn’t expect you to be able to think of area that Linux can be applied. I would put this down to a lack of computing education.
It certainly is not yet ready for the desktop.
True. This is a reason why I have not switched my company to using Linux based products. I just believe the software available on Windows systems are easier to use for my employees than Linux based software.
I should hope that dispels some of the more fanciful notions about Linux’s worth to a corporation;
True. I am positive you would have hoped for that effect. However what you have demonstrated in my eyes is your low technical experience in the field of computing. I believe a University education in the field will give you a better understanding.
It’s an absurd to suggest that great companies like Google and IBM might have had anything at all to do with this mess.
False. This is again poor research. Companies are always considering costs to produce more value for those concerned. As such we look at alternatives to determine the cost/benefits against what they are currently doing. If the cost/benefit is much greater for product A than product B, it would be silly to continue using product B. For example we currently use AMD Athlon systems as they provide better performance for cost. However we are interested in Intel next generation systems as they would provide an even great cost/benefit. If you find such processes ‘absurd’ then I do not believe you have any understanding of how a business operates.
Of course, this review is somewhat incomplete;
True. But that’s more your inabilities more than anything else.
Linux is defficient in many more ways;
True. There are a number of areas where Linux based systems are lacking.
For example it does not feature something called Digital Rights Management;
False. I do not believe you understand what DRM actually is. DRM is used to protect files from people who are not authorised to view them. Linux can do this. It is more a case that Linux systems can also obtain tools to circumvent this.
It certainly seems that Linux users have chosen to become a 2nd class citizen compared to users of more mainstream operating systems; That too is outside the scope of this review, but please be reassured that we will return to it soon enough.
True. Linux is fairly conservative in what software it will push you in to. This was in fact a positive for me when deciding between Windows and Linux systems. I do not use Outlook Express and prefer to use Outlook. However I have not found a way to prevent Outlook Express from being called upon that is supported by Microsoft. Additionally I do not like its Paint program and I am more in favour of Adobe Photoshop.
Overall it was a good attempt at trying to convey your experience of a Linux product from a Microsoft perspective. As I have already mentioned a number of times, I too am in favour of Windows over Linux for my employees in my company as it is a better product. However your article leaves a lot to be desired in terms of merit. There are multiple cases where better research would not have brought down your point of view.
I believe it would be beneficial to obtain a University degree to understand some of the fundamental concepts of computer architecture and network structures that you may not be informed of. It would certainly boost your standing.
I also believe you need to get your hands into the IT industry a bit more.
As for what operating system I favour.
At home I’m using Debian.
And next week …
we will compare Commodore 64 disk operating system to Windows XP File Explorer.
-texnofobix
I’m sorry, but you need to open your eyes people. There are plenty of comments here which are absolute rubbish.
FACTS:
- Linux is one of the worlds most updated Operating Systems. Several releases of Fedora Core have already been made.
- Only certain versions of Linux are free. This means that power is restricted in cases.
Now I got some facts out of the way, I must correct you on some ideas.
“The Linux installation did not include a web-browser”
You obviously did not try one of the more ‘popular’ and newer versions. I installed linux in seconds, and bam, Firefox, Email clients, you name it, all setup. It found everything needed before Window$ could.
“This is how the STR site appears to a Linux User. The images are jumbled, the layout appears random.”
Another whack in the face. This time, it is NOT the web browser. It is the webpage. It has been coded incorrectly. Also, you might be quite dumb to realise that no web author creates websites for Netscape. It’s basically for Internet Exploder or The brilliant Mozilla product, Firefox.
After trying this in Fedora Core 5 Linux, I have to shame you in saying it worked. Wow, you are really kicking yourself now.
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The experience as you can see was somewhat surreal: Images appeared jumbled fonts were bizarrely out of proportion and the vast majority of websites simply failed to load. I imagine this is how pot-heads must see the world; I suspect that only a pot-head would assume that this is how the rest of the world is supposed to appear!
Okay, the font part is parcially correct. Linux does not use M$ Fonts. It uses its own library of fonts. But with about 2 minutes of searching, you can have the Windows Fonts. For everything else, it works great.
“Linux, a simple browser plugin apparently requires extensive knowledge of the command-shell; Once again, we asked ourselves why Linux users would be willing to put up with this?”
Oh, I know, its to keep idiots from knowing what to do! And guess what, go back over 20 years, it’d be like this.
NEVER thank M$ for the wonderful Graphics User Interface design (Like Desktop windows), thank the wonders of the companies that they had to steal it from.
“Linux developers often use IRC as a means of communication. We were quite baffled as to how anybody might expect to get any assistance at all, the whole IRC experience resembled a sordid on-line brothel:”
You HONESTLY used Redhat? I mean, I’ve heard pathetic stuff before, but that just outclasses it.
You might want to look for a newer Linux OS. That one is months old. Also, with a little bit of searching, you’d find that there is a lot of support for Linux.
And I hate to break it to you, that is NOT an official Linux IRC channel. And I also believe you added that line in the top to make people support your case. Come on, let the government lie for you. They already do, and it works (Don’t worry, no matter who you vote for, they all lie).
Let me just state some other things.
You said:
“…moreover they stated that my opinions were biased therefore untrustworthy…”
Nothing changed! You are still biased.
“I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.”
I’m very sorry to say this, but you honestly have NO CLUE what you are on about. You think that because a Multi-Billion dollar company created an Operating System, means it created the ‘modern’ computer and the World-Wide-Web.
Well, sorry. Most websites are running under Linux servers. Windows servers are very vulnerable, as they are very similar to Windows Operating Systems. So a virus sent to XP would work on a Windows 2003 Server, and not a Linux server.
Also, I believe Micro$oft did NOT invent the modern computer with Graphics User Interface, It was used by IBM before hand, and even before that, there were other minority companies that had that.
Also, it’s nice to know that you need to use a Linux Server. You cannot deny this.
If you want a Windows Server, be willing to pay Hundreds of dollars. A Linux server is much cheaper. Infact, I have one running at home perfectly on a PC.
There is nothing wrong with Linux. For everyone reading this topic, rather than listen to the biased rubbish. Look around and see. I don’t know if it is supporting terrorism, infact, I highly doubt it is, but using Linux at home is great for people that are technically minded.
For you, I will say this. You should pull your lips away from your leaders arse and walk outside. You don’t know what you are talking about, so leave it for the people who do.
Support Linux :)
World wide web was invented by Tim Berners-Lee not Micro$oft. M$ only wanted to destroy his good work…
http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/
I am just about as Chistian and conservative as one can be … however your linux article is not true.
First off … Novell, IBM, Google, Yahoo … all major US companies use linux (or BSD, another freeOS) in their business.
Secondly, 75% of the websites in the world use apache as the web server that dispalys them to the world.
Those are the facts.
You also discuss that some websites that are designed on IIS for Microsoft Internet Explorer don’t look good in Mozilla on Linux … of course they don’t. They were designed to run on IIS and display in a non STANDARDS BASED browser.
If you want to see what Real Linux looks like, try this:
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=602&slide=1
Perhaps everyone would be better served by doing a comparision between Windows Server 2003 R2 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS 4.
Way to go you guys. Hilarious…You really had me going there for awhile.
Should have up dated the calender though.
2001 eh. BTW heres a link to the exact screenshot.
http://www.tux.org/%7Ebball/z50/twm.jpg
Nice try…
Thanks for the great laugh.
-Mike
Red Hat 3?? Did you find this in some sort of museum? Hold onto it for another couple years, you might have a valuable antique on your hands!
I am normal guy from middle europe,dont know much american political life!But reading your articles makes me belive Republicans are nationalist-clerofascist-extremist party.America is going down not because of Linux or Pamela Anderson,but because of such people like you, which hate free minds.
I dont know if i should cry or laungh.. you are a IT Manager? what in hell do you read?
You are so out-dated, more than half you said is false!
Using Red Hat? thats older than my pet’s.
Try something new like Ubuntu, Fedora or SuSe ( This last on is from Novell ).
I’ve been using Linux on desktop for more than 3 years, Using Mac for 2 years, and i have no probleme with it. even my girlfriend that doesnt know mutch about computers uses linux with no problem. Almost all servers i work with are linux based. of course there are many win 2003 server working, i dont have any problem saing that.
They are both good OS, both with they advantages and disavantages. You as an “IT Manager” should know better.
i most say that i would never let you work in my company…
with nothing more to say.
Best Regards.
You are seriously out of date and misinformed. I have been in I.T. for over 20 years. I cut my eye teeth on IBM mainframes, DEC VMS, HP, and Unix boxen in the 70’s and 80’s, moving into network admin later. I am pretty non-denominational when it comes to Operating Systems. They all have their pluses and minuses. There is no silver bullet or one size fits all. And certainly Microsoft ain’t it – unless you want to continue forking over more and more money for eternal beta products that never quite work as advertised. Ask anyone that bought the Windoze NT marketing crap, hook, line and sinker. Ask any SERIOUS sysadmin with multivendor support experience. It’s a big world out there, bigger than your small mind. Better put your head back in the sand, your sky is falling.
Funny thing, The majority of IBM’s billion dollar plus revenues are based on LINUX services, along with thousands of other companies. I find your bias and ignorance truly depressing and shocking. I guess give someone a hammer and everything looks like a nail sooner or later. I’ll use and support whatever I happen to sit down in front of. I have to say though, your lack of objectivity and uninformed accusations about the origins of Linux and the Linux community shock even me. As a former sys-admin, director of technology, and consultant, you are seriously out of touch and I’d never consider anyone with your attitudes for anything I’d hire for – I never swallow any vendor’s party line -ever- period…it costs too much money.
Neither does Google, Yahoo, Chrysler, AutoZone, the U.S. Navy and countless other government agencies and installations. Windoze sure as hell didn’t drive the Mars Rovers, and Windoze sure as hell ain’t driving the F-22 and with good reason. Foot in mouth disease not withstanding, you are in serious need of an open mind and objectivity.
I use Linux at home – purely my choice. Imagine that, I have a choice. Most people don’t realize they do. I guess you choose ignorance and FUD over objective cost benefit analysis and risk management. Too bad. Grow up, go home and let the rest of the planet get on with providing solutions Microsoft can’t, won’t, or even think of reliably and securely providing. The tired old ‘buy American’ busted my hometown a long time ago – you need to wake up and see how interconnected this global planet really is – including American companies.
I have read your posts on this “blog”…. and i am feel like Winston in Orwell’s 1984…. only one company, one only product, only one one politics party……..ands other are bad…. This is
PLEASE DON’T BOTHER PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT OPPINIONS OR CUSTOMS AND DON’T AFFRONT PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES …
YOUR POSTS SHOW US BIG CHURLISHNESS OF SOME AMERICANS…..
You make a shot in the eye your country…..
Please piss of
Businesses such as IBM, Novell, and NEC use Linux internally and sell Linux services.
Government agencies such as NASA and the U.S. Postal Service use Linux every day.
Many state and city governments, such as those of Massachusetts, USA, use Linux
Your ignorance astonishes me. You’re a living proof that Americans are dumb.
This has to be comedy, no one can be so ignorant and technically inept!
I also seem to remember some bloke from Nigeria showing me the same certificate to prove that was who he said he was when offering me a cut of his dead clients “lost” millions!
Please, please continue with thoose articles. They are simply hilarious.
Oh and if this isn?t a troll and you are a former IT manager, you are a former one because you have got to been sacked.
This articel is most funny I have read in years maybe you should concider start as a standup comedian.. ?
You say you have MCSE….. well that says alot about microsoft certification then your qualifications…. :)
Who said that a MCSE does now a shit about networks anyway.
Whoever posted that early comment about retired IT manager saying it all needs some “adjustment”. I am a retired IT manager and I am perfectly sane as I sit here writing this using a Galeon web browser under Ubuntu 5.10. I know my system is perfectly stable because I run krells on my desktop that tell me so (OOPS I’m sorry, you can’t do that in Windows). But then I don’t have to worry anyway, because Linux was designed to be secure as a first principle. Windows didn’t even think about it until after the fact.
Look at the FACTS:
75% of the 500 top supercomputers in the world run Linux, 20% of the remainder run Unix, most of the rest are proprietary. Windows is not on the list.
Choose your favorite means of determining the OS of any site. There are several choices (I use nmap, even though it was written by “Russian”). Pick one, anyone. How about the Department of Transportation? OOPS – Solaris and Apache. How about Homeland Security? Surely they wouldn’t use the Commie, US hating Linux! OOPS! They use Microsoft products, but the all-important gateway to the world? Version 2.4 of Linux. How about the NSA? BSD 4.6.2. Shall I go on?
OldSEaDog
ROFL!!
Thanks.. this is great stuff.. mr IT Manager…whats next?
Proving that Visual Basic is more powerful than C++ maybe?
Keep up the Good work.. I’ve never laughed so much my entire life..
Shelley, I have to say that your friend Tristan is making a fool of himself, and making you look like one too.
Tristan, you say you are a retired IT manager. Whose idea was it that you should retire? Don’t tell me, tell Shelley.
Tristan,
you really must ride the “special” bus to work / school / whatever each day. I cannot believe that anyone could write something so wrong / incorrect / lacking in credibility!
Your comment early in the piece about you being “specially qualified” to make the comments attributed to you scares the heck outta me. Please say you’re not serious. Please let us all in on the joke! Don’t carry this nonsense on any longer …
Marc.
Thanks a lot for this article. Here in France, our brilliant senators voted a law against Linux and all kind of Free software, so we will now follow the right path. We will use microsoft products, as the Lord told us to do. Hopefully, this law will be voted in the rest of Europe too, and we might help you to get rid of Linux forever.
“Your Prayer team has an IT Department?”
They’re using Windows. I would rather say that their IT Department got a Prayer Team.
I didn’t know that an X-terminal console has anything to do with Micro$oft Outlook??? You must be a genius!!!!!!! A computer haxor!!! YES YOU ARE THE KEVIN MITNICK OF THE REPUBLICANS!!!!! And I didn’t know that Fractals are “Hallucinations from excessive use of Linux”????? You surely haven’t used Linux not even for 5 minutes since you are showing an X-Windows screenshot (probably somthing you found on the internet) but not a KDE or GNOME desktop which are much more flexible, good-looking and easy to use, than any Windows version desktops.
oohh and for one of your idiot supporters…
if(person.MediocreThatKnowsAtMostOnlyVisualBasic)
person.WindowsUser = 1;
You are a shame to Christianity.
I think you are satans servant
God bless you
Bear
I consider myself to be a European liberal. I tried to install Ubuntu Linux to see what all the guys on Slashdot and Digg were talking about. It firstly destroyed my Windows partition, before installing. It then could not detect my wireless LAN card. It came with no support for MP3, DVD, Flash or PDF files. I spent over 3 hours trying to update the most basic tools. Linux just sucks big donkeys balls. Its probably cool in a server environment, but as a desktop OS its just rubbish. Linux zealots are amongst the most narrow minded individuals I have ever seen. They endlessly criticise Windows, while not realising that the OS they preach about has actually gone backwards in the past few years in terms of home user suitability. The Linux ‘community’ is full of angry, self opinionated individuals who are rude to new Linux users, who set up fragmented help sites that provide no help to the average end user. They create WIKI’s, MIKI’s BIKI’s and other silly sites that provide false and outdated information. Its the same type of crusties who hang around on Wikipedia all day, endlessly editing articles, until everything is compatible with their narrow ‘quasi-fascist’ world view. The majority of people in the world, have never even heard of Linux. It doesn’t matter to most people. Its only an OS.
Tristan and Shelley:
The fact here, and the entire discussion, doesn’t turn around wich one is better, Linux or Windows, the discussion is about the major misunderstanding about the issue.
Linux is no more than a Operative System, that means, is a program working of interface between the user and the hardware.
I’m a Linux user, and here i propose not to discuss wich SO is better than the other, but yes to correct the major misunderstanding that you and tristan have.
1)”the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.”
Internet exists before Microsoft. Internet became from ARPANet, a network designed first to conect diferen point in case of nuclear attack in Cold War Ages, then became a network to connect Universitys around the world.
2)Perhaps typing obscure Russian commands into a barely comprehensible command-prompt on a Chinese made computer.
DOS, the first OS of microsoft was command based, and:
a) type commands allow to have a full control and knowledgement of the computer work.
b)Why Russian is bad?, they don’t throw bombs into schools in middle east?, that is a racist thinking.
c)barely-comrehensive for you my friend.
d)AGain, why a chinese computer can’t be used?.
3)”We had been told that the newest version of RedHat Linux was version 3.0″
a) This is not the latest version of Linux, in fact, this version is from the past Century. So, you are comparing a SO from year 2003, against a SO from year 1996 aproximately
b) Some Windows 2003 are designed to use a 64bit procesor, a SO from year 1996 NO!!!, doesn’t mather Hyperthreading or not.
c) RedHat no, but more than a millon of users yeah, free of charge.
3)”we opened the shrink-wrap box we were astounded to find that it contained a large set of floppy-disks”
Again, RedHat 3.0 is from year 1996 aprox.
4)”It was a woeful mish-mash of primary colors and clashing visual styles.”
And the problem is…????
5)”After spending half an hour trying to decode the ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?man page??, we were able to install the latest version of Netscape Navigator, the new browser from Firefox.”
No, no, no and no again!!. First, one of the advantage of Linux is that you can tune it as you wish, that means, dont install lot of unusuable crap. SEcond, Netscape Navigator is NOT the new browser of Firefox.
6)”There were no additional passwords to type in and as an additional courtesy to users.”
That is a hughe Lie!!!, A administrator Password is required in any Windows 2003 edition!!. ALso a Serial nunmber of 14 digits, IP number, PC name, Workgroup, Tour for windows, make a partition etc…, Microsoft Certified system engineer must knew it!!
7)”Millions of Americans have grown accustomed to it’s ease of use, slick presentation and universal compatibility;”
Accustomed doesn’t means better. And Americans means people from Canada to Argentina, America is a CONTINENT!!
8)”Images appeared jumbled fonts were bizarrely out of proportion and the vast majority of websites simply failed to load”
Netscape is not Linux. In Linux, you can choose diffrent browsers (Opera, Netscape, firefox), That’s one of the Pro of Linux, you can customize it.
9)”only a pot-head would assume that this is how the rest of the world is supposed to appear”
First, you’re disrespecting a group of people who put the better effort to bring a free of charge browser, because not all America (AS A CONTINENT) doesn’t have 100U$S to spend. And again, you’re using a 1996 WEb Browser.
10)”Active X??, an exciting technology from Microsoft that allows ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?plugins?? to be instantly loaded.”
That is a major lack of security. instantly load a plugin means a terrible risk. Again… 1996 version browser!!!
11)”Microsoft offered an extensive knowledge base in addition to a commercial, ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?per incident?? based support line.”
Yes, for the people who has the money to pay it. Support in Linux is FREE.
12)”the support was friendly and expert”
I assure you the people who brings support on Microsoft is not experte compared to Linux users.
13)”the whole IRC experience resembled a sordid on-line brothel:”
Sory, but the example is perfect comprehensible. Plus, the support in Linux is based on millions of users around the globe, for one problem you could have multiple solutions. There’s not only one channel of support, you got forums, IRC, mailing lists, etc…, and if everything fail, you can look in the source code and tune it. this, of course, you can’t do it with windows because you can look at the source code, and the tec support is not cualified to do that kind of stuff.
14)”that this is what any Linux user who is not fluent in C++ will have to do eventually.”
SOry man, Linux is programed in C.
15)”Linux and Mozilla’s “Netscape Navigator” does not measure up to Microsoft’s latest offering”
The difference is that a 1996 OS can work in a actual PC, but a 1996 windows can’t work on a recently computer as a server.
16)”it does not feature something called Digital Rights Management”
Linux have a diferent License, that’s all, is not ilegal.
17)”Linux users have chosen to become a 2nd class citizen ”
Thats a huge lie. The media of citizens who use citizens have a much bigger knowledge of computers.
In conclusion, wich OS is better?, they are designed for diffrent purposes.
7) ” Installation of some basic software required a complex series of commands and passwords to be entered.”
Again, is a 1996 OS. Second, Linux is not a Desktop based OS, is a server based. Anyway, to discuss wich OS is better you must carry the discussion to a higher technician level like filesystems, Inode, memory, virtual memory etc…
Thanks, and again check your sources before write all that kind of things because people think this is te true.
Greetings, Ikaru.
I am sure you will agree that I am exceptionally qualified to speak on this subject.I am sure you will agree that I am exceptionally qualified to speak on this subject.
Actually I don’t. Let’s analyze your article:
I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.
Excuse me? Microsoft had nothing to do with the invention of the Internet or the world-wide web.
We prepared two nearly identical machines. The windows “rig” was based on an AMD “Athlon 64 X2″? 2Ghz chip, whereas the Linux machine was based on an Intel “Pentium 4″? 2Ghz. We would have liked to test Linux on an Athlon as well, however AMD would not provide us with a Linux driver CD;
Huh?! The standard i386 installer kernel works fine on an AMD64 and there’s even a seperate 64 bit installer.
In any case both of these chips were approximately equal in power because the Intel chip had has “Hyperthreading”?.
They are nowhere close comparable. The X2 outperforms the P4 majorly.
Tip: for a representative test you need to use exactly the same hardware for both setups.
We had been told that the newest version of RedHat Linux was version 3.0, which for a “flagship” product was surprisingly hard to find. When we did locate it, we were astonished to be told that it was “quite old” and that RedHat no longer provided any level of technical support for it.
RH 3.0 is released in 1996, the latest version of RH is Redhat Enterprise Linux 4 (for servers). It costs money, just like Windows.
The replacement for the home version is Fedora Core, the latest version is 5.
Besides that Redhat is just one Linux distribution, all targeted at their own audience. There’s over a hundred different distributions.
Please do some research before performing a test and writing an ‘article’ about it. You’re making a fool out of yourself by first stating how experienced and educated you are and then making one false claim after the other.
When we opened the shrink-wrap box we were astounded to find that it contained a large set of floppy-disks. I cannot imagine what Redhat were thinking in this age of DVDs;
Just like the Windows setup still requires your custom drivers to be on a floppy during the setup process….
Besides the floppy installation is just an option, you can also use a CD, a DVD or even a net install.
still this would be a step up from the magnetic-tapes upon which FreeBSD is normally supplied (Free BSD is an older kind of Linux).
Huh?!?! FreeBSD is based on OpenBSD, which is a UNIX flavor. It has nothing to do with Linux.
After a number of failures, we managed to take the tedious floppy-disk based installation to it’s conclusion. We could not have been more disappointed. The GUI seemed garish and hard to use. It was a woeful mish-mash of primary colors and clashing visual styles. We had become accustomed to Microsoft’s visual sophistication.
*sigh* Wrong again. You can use many different Window managers under X11, unlike Windows. If you wouldn’t have used a distribution from 1996, you would have been estonished by the amazing look-and-feel of KDE: http://www.kde.org/screenshots/
That’s a different story isn’t it?
Okay, I’ve got more useful things to do than reading idiotic articles like this, so I’ll stop reading here. But please next time you post something do some research and at least try and look convincing. This is really pathetic.
Kind regards,
Ruben van E.
The Netherlands.
“I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.”
– It’s called DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.
http://www.darpa.mil/
i’am comparing Windows 3.11 with Ubuntu Linux 5.0 and I think Windows is a shit…
Uh??? are a Windows 95, 98, Me, XP 2003 Server and so on???
Sorry, i’m a super IT of a big big enterprise and i compare what i want..
Please, compare and don’t lie
It is clearly a joke, no one could be so disinformed and be able to even write with a keyboard. Don’t take it too serious, it must be either a joke as I’ve said or the creation of very retarded mind.
Greetings.
bahahhaa, where were we, without windows? Well, forward, much forward. Bill Gates has stole the graphic-showing tech(im not sure of the word in english) from Apple. There is a film about it, its name is something like “Computer Giants” or something like that. If you would say that “they” made the DOS, well they didnt, they bought it for 50 000 $.
God Bless U Tristan
My collegues are so stressfull after working long shifts, so I recomended your site.
We all enjoyed, an old techie convincing windows as the best OS with stupid reasons…..
I presume u must have heard what happen to US military systems running on Windows..So stop busshiting abt US.
TO TELL U THE TRUTH, LINUX IS BEYOND UR IMAGINATION..
haha, your outlook “equivalent” doens’t look like mine :-P. And the STR site doesn’t either. I believe your Linux cert. is as void as it can be :-)
Oh my god man, so you belive in god? Well I tought it wasn’t nice to lie public. This compare lies, first of all. Linux is no working operation system, its a kernel. It exists hundreds of operation systems running the Linux kernel as the base. The Red hat system you shows here, is a manipulation of Linux, trying to manipulate people to not use Linux. Linux systems come with either Gnome or KDE witch both are much more eye-candy than Windows, but that’s my opinion, and many others.
Do anyone agree?
Can anyone see the fault here?
You are comparing a kernel with a complete system, wich is incorrect. If you visit http://www.kde-look.org you’ll see that its not that old and difficult that this comparing shows.
I neither did see that you told about the exelent security in Linux. Such as it has no virus working, no malware, no spyware, no adware etc. Try subscribe to http://www.linspire.com or download http://www.kubuntu.org for free, you also might trie suse. You can find suse 10.0 at http://www.suse.com.
And for the future, i sugest you shut your mouth about things you doesn’t unserstand, because you are lying to people.
Yes, I agree with the last comment. You are a lier. And this post is a joke. Having a Microsoft Title Systems Engeneer doesn’t makes you an expert in open sorce technology. You are mixing concepts here. And what version of RedHat are you using? one from 1990?
Try something newer. You realy don’t know what your are talking about.
You want to show some GNU/Linux show this: http://linux.mymyah.com/Desktop/KDE/KDE2.jpg
Wow Tristan,
You really are stupid. Frist of all I am going to go through and pick apart every little piece of tosh you said.
1. Bill Gates doesn’t sign the certificate. Steve Ballmer does.
2. It is usually the operating system that provides the drivers for the hardware, not the other way around. And unlike the pansies that MS users are, Linux users would probably make their own drivers if need be.
3. Microsoft Windows XP (the latest os) was released in 2001. Microsoft Office 2003 (the latest office suite) was release in – you guessed it – 2003
4. Red Hat provides support for all its product.
5. HP has started selling machines with Linux on them and they don’t even have floppy drives (Travesty! I know! The all-american floppy drive has been outsourced!)
6. He is not the alcholic, you are.
7. Linux Gnome/KDE looks much like a windows interface
8. Mozilla is the compan that makes FireFox(the browser). AOL (another all-american) makes Netscape Navagator.
9. IRC is also availible on XP
10. You are a loser.
Just a question, Tristan: How much money are spyware developers paying you to spread their shit, such as Bonzi Buddy and those other “great utilities” you said Windows installed? It is offensive that you treat people over the net like complete idiots just because you want to add some dollars to your bank account.
You must be one of the dumbest people on the face of this Earth. Go download Fedora Core 5 (the desktop version of Redhat), and THEN post this bullshit. People like you are what’s wrong with religon today. You post your bullshit and think it’s fact.
“I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.”
I have to think this is a joke. First off Microsoft did none of these things, Second, it’s common knowledge that Microsoft had very little to do with any of these things. Even my 9 year old knows that the modern computer was invented by Apple Computers (albeit stolen from Xerox) and it’s never been argued by anyone other then Microsoft.
Also, the Internet and World Wide Web predate Microsoft by several years. This is like saying that Bill Gates invented the dictionary simply because they put out one of the best spell checkers. For everyone’s edification, the Internet was invented by a consortium that included the U.S. military and several major universities. originally called ARPANet it created the backbone of modern internet, it established all of the major protocols used in today’s internet technology and it created most of the modern conventions used on the Internet. The World Wide Web does not really have a true beginning date as it was a very informal thing. But MIT is generally regarded as the creator of it as they had two professors that made some of the first available web pages. These were used to share information in a stored location with professors at UC Berkley rather then requiring them to constantly retransmit the same data via FTP or bulletins.
Lastly (and I could go on for hours about why you are completely and utterly wrong, but I wont) the mere fact that you have wasted your time and money on getting a Microsoft certificate proves that you have no IT background at all. Everyone in IT has known for years that these certs mean little to nothing and no manager ever hires because of them. In fact the only two people I have ever known that were dumb enough to waste their time and money on these cert programs were dumber then tent poles and couldn’t troubleshoot their ways out of paper bags.
I have been working in IT for over 9 years and have been on the Internet since the early FTP days in Berkley. I have used Windows, Macintosh, and Unix/Linux OS systems in my time in IT. I have configured numerous servers, built inummeral web pages, coded, debugged and designed software and I have a background in computer science.
To end, your opinion of Linux is useless. Your cert is useless. Good-bye.
Dear God,
please grant simple geeks the ability to spot a spoof when it slaps them in the face.
And forgive Tristan and Shelly for taking the Michael out of sooooooo many folk.
Regards,
A Person Who Understands Satire And Irony.
Redhat linux 4.0 introduces support for comment posters with a sense of humour.
Tristan said: Having one’s disillusions shattered is allways uncomfortable.
Well both you and shelly will both have a hard time when you find out that here is no god or heaven
I love how the lines in the IRC show people as joining and leaving #chat when it’s supposed to be #linux.
On a secondary note… it’s always fun to watch linux zealots go mental whenever someone makes fun of their operating system.
This site just made my day, haven’t laughed this hard in a long while.
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Tristan is so right, Linux is a communist tool build on communist ideas. Without Microsoft no internet, no mouse and no desktop computer. Its not weird that Jobs uses a communist OS, he is one himself
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NOT TRUE. The first true usage of the internet was incidentally on UNIX. Not on Windows.
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ActiveX
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You could also care to know that at least 70% of all spyware products come through ActiveX.
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Come on, be serious.
I doubt very much that the US Army would use foreign operating systems like linux and liberals systems like mac os x. And if so, they would endanger the security of America, but like I said.. I don’t think so.
God bless you,
Shelley
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In fact, I know they do, and I am not even from America, yet I still know, and by the way, the US Army uses many versions of linux, and because of the OPEN SOURCE, they can change and modify their version of linux to do EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT IT TO DO.
Another thing to take into account is, that RedHat linux is built from the ground up to be a SERVER OPERATING SYSTEM. If you would rather use a desktop version of linux, try SuSe, Mandriva, or if you had a brain, you could modify (YES, MODIFY) an existing distribution of linux to suit your needs. And don’t think for a minute that you can throw off my comment as pure rubbish, as I have a Computer Science degree, and I am a MICRO$OFT Certifed IT Pro, Programmer, and Technician.
And believe me, once you learn the basics of using a DESKTOP version of linux, the world is your oyster!
Linux sometimes may not be as easy as Windows but it?s only because you are learning to use it. My mother is a 46-lawyer and loved top use Mandriva, she changed to it once she gave it a chance and found it very easy to use
learn:
“5. Linux is an Operating System, not a political system. If it were, I would still choose the so-called “communist” Linux over the “evil empire” of Windows. I would rather have the freedom of self-regulated social interaction (like Linux) than the oppressive feudalistic repression (like Windows).”
You make the image of a Stupid America even Bigger. Really. Shame sy something to you? and lie? a person who compares Windows XP with a distro that have more than 10 years…
Please that “Certified” embarrass Microsoft.
Spoof or blockbuster, same difference?
Anyway, I liked the original better.
I am in stitches. In australia we have a name for imbeciles like you, we call them WANKERS. You bloody wankers. Microsoft is the devil.
The CIA, Homeland Security, the Department of Transportation and the Secretary of State all use Linux or Unix, according to Netcraft. But I guess some people would prefer to stay isolated in their little bubble and never face the real world out there. When everyone but Johnny is out of step it is time to rethink the problem.
I will ship you at my expense the latest distributions (known as distros) of the top 4 – SuSE 10.1, Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy), Fedora Core 5.0 and Mandriva 2006. Better yet, contact your local Linux Users Group (LUG) which I will also find for you and they can demonstrate them for you. You go in, rose-colored glasses and all, and take a look. If it is good enough for nuclear energy research, 95% of the super-computers in the world, Hollywood’s special effects experts, record producers, etc., etc., then I think it is good enough for you. And, ignoring the benefit of community that comes with it, if it is free and does almost everything Windows does and more, it can’t be all bad, can it?
Dear Tristan,
when I am reading so articles written by so called “experts” I see, why Europe is so far ahead of the US in technics. Me as a real technician from IT branch is this masterpiece real good joke for belly laugh.
Zbuda
Dear Tristan,
when I am reading so articles written by so called “experts” I see, why Europe is so far ahead of the US in technics. Me as a real technician from IT branch is this masterpiece real good joke for belly laugh.
Zbuda
You must be joking. Your article is full of errors and shows you are an ignorant in computers.
By the way, world wide web was developed in CERN (european research center for nuclear investigations). Some of the investigators there developed html for sharing information easily.
You know that Bonzi Buddy is spyware right? and that this blog is a fake?
the topics posted here are so retarded that noone should take them seriously. nice PR job tho.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonzi_Buddy
Righty ho. Where to start?
Perhaps by saying this websh*te is almost certainly hosted on a linux machine?
That god (aka ME) is smoking the same stuff as you if I decide to bless America
Im 16, I have no formal (or informal) qualifications, and I found my way around linux (on an AMD rig, I might add) in a few minutes. Do you need driver CDs for CPUs? No. So much so, I regularly run it on 2* AMD AthlonXP rigs, both overclocked and one voltmodded, a 2.2GHz Mobile Celeron in my lappy and a P1 200MHz. Different kernal in the P1, but it still runs smoother than 95 or 98. And its newer.
Will you stop putting quotes around stuff, like ‘rig’ – you sound almost a big a prick as you clearly are.
To the French guy: Mate, I am pretty biased against the french, and I dare say vice versa. I have a deep down loathing for a lot of things about them, but I would like to take this opportunity to thank the idiot who came up with this whole thing (sorry, Ive forgotten your name – Ill call you The Yank) for finding something we both agree on. Put it there, dude :D
I might point out that Europe (ever heard of the English? Thats ENGLISH, not BRIT. Brit rhymes with shit only to mock the morons who came up with it) is superior to the US (uber-shit) in so many ways, I couldnt even begin to list them
Get real
Yours uncaringly,
Cut-Me-Own-Throat Weasel
PS: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/phpbb/index.php – go there learn something about compters. Theres even a section on ‘nix for your sorry ass to read.
PPS: You are a tit
I have to agree, Tristan: Linux is not ready for desktop use.
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/4208/screenshot8dm.png
Half an hour is all what I needed to get Linux to look like this.(the time it took me to get the icon and window manager themes)
and you “research” techniques are unexistant, as many people have already pointed out here.
get real. you are supposedly well versed in computing, but yet you use [by choice] spyware like bonzai buddy? claria?
exactly who certified you, the prayer group? i guess they were lookin for a miracle, huh?
exactly who told you that pc magazine is the IT standard? thats like saying maximum pc is the magazine for enthusiasts. maybe 4 year old enthusiasts. where does your information come from? have you actually ever spoken to an admin, a power user? a child?
i cant even go on without anger clouding my judgement, but a cpl of things. you stated there is no browser. firefox is included on most distros. lynx as well for text based browsing. if you are unable to surf without microsoft holding your hand, that is your fault, not linux.
now i will stop being the troll that i usually abhore. there is just so much wrong with your fantasy that you insult everyone who has ever turned on a computer.
stick to microsoft, you deserve eachother, and you, albiet unwittingly, personify its user base.
Hi, I’ve been using Windows since I got a computer in 1999, I was using Windows 98. It was great, then I was given a Windows ME computer for Christmas 2000, and it barely worked! I did a Windows update on it and it took away half the features! I have since had more updates which have failed to fix these problems. I have now got a Windows XP computer which does the job, however, I have been attacked by maleware, spyware and goodness know what other rubbish, all for surfing perfectly LEAGAL and SAFE sites.
Tristan, you said that you were a technician and yet you also said that
?Netscape Navigator, the new browser from Firefox.? – Errr, since when was Firefox a company? Mozilla make Firefox!
?There were no additional passwords to type in? ? Yup, and that is why Windows is so vulnerable, if someone on the web wants to infest my machine they can! In Linux I have to give them permission!
?On Windows, these are seamlessly downloaded and installed in the background? ? Again, in Linux I only install things I want to install
You say that you have these qualifications, and yet you seem to have very little knowledge of the world of computing outside Microsoft, RedHat is now Fedora! If you typed that into Google then you would have found it! And it was hard to find? Probably because many big retailers think it?s a game! But you can search for it online, and find a distribution quite easily! The hardest part about Linux is choosing the distribution!
As I said, the amount of technical mistakes your making is untrue, bearing in mind that I am an 18 year old, also, your grammar and spelling isn?t too hot either, I would recommend that you type your articles out in a word processor (You can get a free one which is excellent and is part of the Open Office suite, or you can pay the Earth for Microsoft Word, your choice) and when you have done (if using MS Word) you can tap F7 and it will do a spell and grammar check for you (if you have it set up right, won?t always do this automatically!)
Please consider doing some real research before trying to brain wash innocent people over the internet. Linux is great, it works on seemingly any architecture, so you wouldn?t have needed AMD drivers, most are included in Linux, unlike Windows that you have to add EXTRA drivers too.
Anyway, I am looking forward to your next article, they make me laugh.
I still have no words: TRISTAN, YOU ARE INCOMPETENT! I have 25 years old, I’m Italian, I’m studing informatic engineer and in my life I’ve never read so much stupid things! On my lapop I have linux installed. You’ve tried to install a very old version of Red Hat, so you have too problems. Don’t you know, but I’ve installed on my pc Red Hat 9.0 and if you search again, you can find another newest version. Then, you can install UBUNTU, SUSE, FEDORA CORE, GENTOO LINUX etc. and you’ll find that those system are user-friendly, more simple and secure than Windows systems. I’ll never use windows for a server or a control system. windows is good for people who want to learn how to use a computer but doesn’t want to lose some time. You’ve spoken about manuals. I think they are useful and not very complicated for a person like you that now how a computer is made and how it works. You can also consider that Linux is totally FREE: on-line you can find whatever you want and you can find more people that can help you. If you use Mozilla you can find an internet navigator better than Internet Explorer. It isn’t true that you can’t navigate: I have no problem on the net with my linux system. With modern Linux system you have no need to mount your peripherals: they are connected and mounted as soon as you plug them. You can connect USB drivers and also digital cameras. You can easily burn a cd and a dvd, you can easily listen music(using AMAROK for example) or viewing a DVD. StarOffice is a good replacement for MicrosoftOffice. There is no problems for printers. Mine is a laser from HP and still works well. If you wanna chat you can use GAIM o similar, clones of famous IRC, ICQ, MSN, YAHOO and similar. You still use Active X? A system that doesn’t work as well as it should do? With linux you can compile kernel as well as you want. YOU CAN READ ALL SOURCES IN LINUX. BILL GATES GIVES YOU ONLY THE EXECUTABLE. Do you know what I mean? Learn to use pc before write so stupind things. Valentina.
ehh .. let the 57 year old man alone. He is senile :P
Tristan:
Excuse my bad english but is my less practiced language (seriously).
Had you thinked about you retirement? You are like a NAZI. Do you wanna kill me just for my latin-american condition? Don’t the rest of the world deserve to breathe te same air that you (a good christian north-american) breathes.
All you are defending the megacorporation’s interests. All you aren’t thinkin in god: YOU ARE THIKING IN MONEY.
But, about you profeccional expertise… i have to say:
1) A Microsoft’s Diploma means CRAP. They teach just one technology, they tech. With such CRAP you can’t talk a word about any other thing cause you don’t know any other thing.
2) Linux is developed by all humanity, and everyone knows is code. If a bug appears, someone fixes it. Can you tell “Windows hasm’t backdoors for NSA, CIA or FBI”. Do you think they have the right to inspect our private lifes.
3) It wasn’t developed to “circumventing” anything owned by SCO crap. If you know what is the GNU proyect you would see that we are people that loves programming. When Linus Torvalds released Linux, was made for people that likes develop his own drivers and gain full knowledge about the system they are using.
4) Your information is in mayority WRONG or FALSE. Is OUTDATED, and POOR.
Leave this crap, and go home. Don’t make the world most sad that already is.
http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
rhis is the future linux desktop , comming son , take a look at it , window (even the next one “vista” can’t do thaty , take a look to the videos too , :)
please tell me what you think about it ,
shelley i hope you reveive my mails by the way
for people who want to know what really looks like a linux desktop –> http://www.lynucs.org/
There is no P4 that supports Hyperthreading and runs at 2Ghz.
Need I say more? ;-)
How can anyone believe that a site where people who don’t even take the pain to answer truly technical comments is serious ?
Thanks for the laugh, and continue like this!
Do you honestly believe the crap you’re spewing?
“I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.”
I’ll have to send a note off to DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency — That’s THE research arm of our very own U.S. Dept. of Defense) and explain that it wasn’t they who create the Internet back in the ’60s/’70s, but rather, it was M$ in the ’90s. After that, I’ll send a note to Sir Timothy Berners-Lee, the creator of the WWW (and later founded the W3C — World Wide Web Consortium) telling him he must have been mistaken, it was M$ that created the Web, SORRY!!!
HA!
As for who “gave us the modern computer,” I guarentee it wasn’t M$. You may want to check out the likes of XEROX (PARC), IBM, Apple and AT&T for that magic.
Don’t get me wrong, this is not coming from a Leftist hatred of Republicans or of Conservative beliefs. I’ve been a Republican and voted that way since I was able. I just hate it when someone so openly ignorant tries to tell me they know what they’re talking about, tries to prove it, and still makes a fool of themself.
Sir, you are a joke!
Wow. I hope no one actually accepts this article as fact. This seriously has to be the most biased, misinformed article on any topic I’ve read this entire year, not including the original article. This is coming from a person with very little Linux experience, who is currently (sadly) running Windows. However, reading this article has inspired me to try Linux again so I can laugh at all the crap in this article. Just do a google image search on distros like Debian or SuSE to see what Linux REALLY looks like. You’ll find that currently, the user interface is much more advanced than the Windows interface. This is just one of many reasons for my switch to Linux.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
First off there is no possible way that this isn’t a joke. But for the sake for aurgument I’ll play along.
Okay so you’re former IT Microsoft Certified and Current IT Manager for your prayer group (which is in all likely hood something you just made up)
Well let me tell you a little about myself. I profess no type of certification nor do I need to to be able to tell you that almost everything you said is B*S* and I don’t go to prayer groups (it’s kinda gay)I am a Thelemite and I use Linux everyday and have been for quite sometime now. I usually use gentoo but have opted to switch to a fluffier version of linux recently just because I like to see my options (the version I switched to was PCLinuxOS btw http://www.pclinuxos.com ) and I think I can hopefully enlighten your feeble little facist brain.
First let me first break the news to you, you are a Microsoft fan boy and I have empirical scientific evidence to back this up (not that science plays any part your little world of self aggrandizement and personal agenda pushing of god guns and government)
Exhibit
A: You are MSCE Which is a microsoft endorsed cert. Why couldn’t you have gotten your RHCE which BTW is MUCH MUCH MUCH more difficult to get and is MUCH MUCH MUCH more respected in the IT community.
B:You say and I qoute “I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web. Where would we have been without Microsoft? Perhaps typing obscure Russian commands into a barely comprehensible command-prompt on a Chinese made computer.”
It’s time for a short lesson in computing history class. Please take your seats and pay attention.
The first Computers aren’t seen as computers at all an example of this would be the … ABACUS!!! This of course is a very primitive computer but it is a computer none the less. Who invented the abacus girls and boys? The Dread Pirate Chinese.
Lets move a little further in history shall we? A bit later the first true computing machines were developed which were not the digital computing machine but were in fact analog. In an analog representation the properties of the representational medium reflect properties of the represented state-of-affairs (ie the higher the little dinger goes up after you hit the pad at the carnival trying to ring the bell at the top the more strength was put into hit.)
The first of these types of Analog Computers was a Mechanical Wheel and disc integrator made by a man named James Thomson in 1800’s who was brother of Lord Kelvin. The two brothers also constructed a computer for computing the integral of the product of two given functions and few other computing devices including a tide predictor which was in use at liverpool until the 1960’s.
In 1931 Vannevar Bush of MIT built the differential Analyser which was the first automatic general purpose analog computer which was based off of the Wheel and Disc Integrator of Thomson’s.
In 1935 a man at Cambridge named Turing invented the principle of the modern computer. His idea was for an digital computing machine which had limitless memory and a scanner that moved back and forth through the memory reading symbol and writing a further symbol. The actions of this scanner would be dictated by a set of instructions which were stored in the memory in the form of symbols. This commonly known in the modern computer world as the Turing stored program model and is a concept quite regularly understood by the developers of AI.
Then Came the age of Vacuum tube computers and the Giants which needed to be in freezers so they wouldn’t over heat. Then came. The Hobby kits. etc etc
I think you get my point or do I have to spell it out even further to you.
If you want I can do the same thing with the internet which was originally concieved of by J.C.R Licklider of MIT in 1962 who was the head of the Computer research program at DARPA at the same time. He ended up convincing his successors (Ivan Sutherland, Bob Taylor, Lawrence Roberts) of the importance of this networking concept.
Microsoft had nothing to do with the development of anything except their own pocket books.
But I digress.
Also why in the hell would we be typing in russian commands we do live in america and we do still speak english.
C:If weren’t a Microsoft fan boy you would have put a lot more work into investigating this matter.
D: You attack those who use linux. I qoute
“This alcoholic has Linux installed on his laptop.” trying to imply that those who use linux are alcholic (also do you realise that you could be sued for libel if that person were to see their picture on your page with that caption under it not to mention you can’t see his screen so have no wat of knowing if he has linux or not)”A Linux user’s view of the world. Hallucinations from excessive use of Linux might be similar to those of LSD or pot.”
Anyways now to the more interesting stuff.
Firstly if Mozilla shows your site incorrectly it is due to bad spcripting on the sites part not Mozilla’s (not to mention that screenshot is photoshoped) also apart from the whole invasion of privacy thing on the IRC screenshot your not even in a linux chat (and this photo too is photoshoped) the reason I know this is because you are in room called #chat not #linux it says it in the actual output screen. Nice try though :).
DRM is not good thing but a last ditch effort of RIAA and MPAA to control their consumers and that IBM laptop that you love so much yeah you should through that becuase IBM did buisness in Nazi germany after most other “American” Companies pulled out. Anything for a buck right? What else can I expect from a world were Green paper is God or at least can buy him.
Love is the law, love under Will.
Fraternally yours.
Gnosti Seauton
P.S> If you don’t let this post go through you are suppresing free speech and thats not very republican but it is facist.
Okay, I finaly undestood. The fact, that RedHat linux 3, which is more than 10 years old, install on todays computer, means first point for it against windows, try to install w95 on it :)
Secondly, you wrote you were able to install most up-to date firefox and netscape. try that on w95. Second point for linux.
And finaly the fact, that you are unable to write the word linux into google means that you are made for windows and should not disturb yourself with software that requires thinking.
Deffinitely a goooood joke.
Thnx for the laugh, it really lightened up my day… you guys are great!
It’s been a while since I cried with laughter but you somehow managed to achive it.
Thnx again, and keep up with the good humour.
Guys, I moved to Linux one year ago and I realized that I got free from the hell. Your “facts” are funny and you are really ignorant if you can tell a nonsence comparing that great, fast, usable, full-featured, flexible and free system with the stupid and ugly Windows which is created only to grab your money.
BTW. your site looks great in my Firefox 1.5. Should I send you a screenshot? (where you got your one?)
God bless your lovely MS agents.
I am quite disappointed to see that nobody has noticed the careful choice of colours used in the Red Hat Linux distribution. That, combined with the sheer name of it — why Red Hat Linux? Why not Stars-and-Stripes Hat Linux? — should warn the lucid user that he or she is before a tool of communist propaganda.
As instructive as your article is, I am afraid I must correct one point: like other, less well-intentioned people have said, Netscape is not the lastest browser from Firefox. The lastest browser from Firefox is Mozilla.
Netscape, actually, used to be a very deign and God-fearing American company, until communists stole their flagship product, Netscape Navigator, and brought the enterprise to bankrupt. Immediatly afterwards, they changed the program’s name to Mozilla, (without adding any good, and inadvertly or deliberately adding a lot of bugs) and choose a red star for their logo.
Do we need more proof? Linux users are all communists, no matter what they think they are!
Sorry to say, but you sound like Osama bin-Laden, preaching the 7th century Koran and afraid of the infidels and their influence on good muslims…absolutely pathetic.
And all this time I thought that Al Gore invented the internet!?!?!
Oh yeah?! Well how does your server work for you!?
You’re website is run by an Apache server running Unix, which is a form of linux. How can you say you don’t like linux/unix, when you are running it for your Blog?!
i cant believe what i read…You call linux an anscient release of red hat, you called an old kind of linux FreeBsd too…im shocked.
You are an attention whore. A troll of the worst degree. And being a Micro$oft certified professional qualifies you for absolutely *squat*. The old addage MCSE stands for “Must Consult Someone Experienced” comes to mind when you show a M$ cert. Idiot.
now i really think you are getting money out of all this crap.
You are geniune cyber trash.
Redhat 3.0?? Released in 1996? My God, I didn’t even realize that floppies lasted that long. Try something from this century if you want to compare it to Windows 2003, like Suse or Redhat Enterprise Linux 4 (released in 2005). If you actually point your browser to http://www.redhat.com, their ‘flagship’ product is right there in big freaking black letters.
BTW, citing Microsoft as an INDEPENDENT (emphesis yours) source is laughable. “Let’s compare two companies and then use one of those companies as a source to explain why they are better than the other one.”
Being a MSCE does not make you qualified to evaluate a LINUX platform any more than being an electrical engineer makes you a good plumber.
PSST, you don’t need a linux driver CD to get a modern linux to run on an AMD chip.
Care to cite where you got information that current FreeBSD is distributed on magnetic tape? I’ve used it, I like it, and it came on a CD.
Showing a photo where you can’t prove that the person is A) an alcoholic or B) he has linux on his laptop is also a mark of poor journalism. (Yes, there is a glass of what could be beer there, but Catholics drink wine at church, so they must ALL be alcoholics, right??)
Netscape Navigator is not ‘from Firefox’. Firefox is a product, not a company, and Netscape the company distributes it’s own product, Netscape Navigator.
Does it bother anyone that all the “pro” comments are in bold and a darker background while the “con” comments are in regular type and pale background??
Seriously, just between you and me, this is just a trolling, right? I mean, you couldn’t have written all of that with a straight face, right? Captain of a Prayer Team being qualifications for comparing Windows and Linux, not going to the web to find the most recent Redhat Linux, doing no research on your test case before you started comparing? I mean, come on, you have to really try to be this bad.
Luckily, you succeeded. In spades.
Some info on two things you know nothing about: pot, linux
Both are great, neither cause hallucinations.
It cannot be other than a joke. There is no such stupid people like Tristan acting to be, is there…?
More funny stuff…
Found this while looking for business perspectives on open source for an upcoming seminar. Hilarious. The comments are nearly as funny: have these people never heard of parody? As proof, there is an entry stating that the site is hosted on Windows; whi…
This blog is hilarious and frightening at the same time.
Hilarious for Tristan sense of humour and his linux so called “review”.
Frigthening for the violence, ignorance and hate of some posts/comments, wherever there do come from (i.e left,right,Msoft,Linux: select your dichotomy scheme). Note that both sides show the same level of “reading-too-fast” zealots.
But more frightening is the trust some of us (according to the posts/answers) put in “Web information”. When something is written somewhere on this infinite whiteboard called “Internet”:
a) we have a natural tendency to believe it is true….And what’s frightening here is not to believe, but our lack of thinking before we decide it may be true (or false).
b) some brave heroes do not hesitate to reply on the spot, on this battlefield where noboy ever died, except maybe from becoming ridiculous in front of a very large audience (but blog anonymity can help). Those champions are scary too.
Btw, I’m european (and french, sorry).
Just in case no one has pointed this out: The Claria “utility” you raved on about is spyware, and is going to be monitoring everything you do on the web as well as possibly replacing site owners’ adds with Claria’s and therefore robbing honest, hardworking webmasters of their income.
Or is that what you call “innovation.”
2 errors in your troll. First screenshot has nothing to do with the next ones. Diferent windowmanager skin. And second, in the xchat window you shooted, you are connected to a private network irc server (irc.vel.net), which means you work there! (server reports is running on linux)
“Better trolling makes more stupid readers”
US Marshals Switching to Red Hat Linux ! http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory/50750.html
As an MCSE, an IBM AIX certified engineer and IT manager, I wonder how any person mistaking an Operating System for a program, can seriously claim he\’s done research, let alone he can make a distinction between a computer and the software that runs on it. Following this logic Tristan can only be nome de plume for the complete a biblical abhorrance and first class liar.
Fantistic! Funny article, MUCH FUNNIER RESPONSES! Pure car-crash TV, I was shocked at how many more Americans and self-proclaimed ‘Experts’ could not tell at all. Despite even my most cynical predictions when I saw the number of responses below the article. Fucking embarrassing, truly.
My favourite quotes:
“Following this logic Tristan can only be nome de plume for the complete a biblical abhorrance and first class liar.”
“Just in case no one has pointed this out: The Claria ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?utility??? you raved on about is spyware, and is going to be monitoring everything you do on the web… (etc etc)”
“Care to cite where you got information that current FreeBSD is distributed on magnetic tape? I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ve used it, I like it, and it came on a CD.”
“I think you are satans servant”
“Your information is in mayority WRONG or FALSE. Is OUTDATED, and POOR.
Leave this crap, and go home. Don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t make the world most sad that already is.”
“Computer Operating Systems don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t haver anything to do with Christian of non Christian, even more, me as confessing Christian am ashamed for someone as you who as confessing christian try do paint an Operating System as a devilish tool.”
“for your info your site looks like this in netscape 8.1:
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2186/shelleynetscape5ks.jpg”
“I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥m an English liberal atheist. I regularly drink myself stupid. Occasionally I smoke marijuana. I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥m your worst enemy. I believe in common sense. I don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t believe in pushing my beliefs down everyone?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s throats, but I will criticize you. You want to know why? Because I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥m 15, and if I can laugh at what you?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ve written then just imagine what far more intelligent people than I are doing.” (I am an English liberal athiest also. He is just twat.)
In summary:
Morons. Absolute fucking morons have retaliated and the result has been sweeter than the article itself.
God bless you. Although I did have a copy of Linux in my house (Would you believe it!) you have shown me the light and exposed Linux for what it really is: a communist conspiricy! I have already incinerated all traces of “Open Source” from my house and I encourage others to do the same!
Surely you are a true American.
“I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web. Where would we have been without Microsoft? Perhaps typing obscure Russian commands into a barely comprehensible command-prompt on a Chinese made computer.”
NO NO AND NO : microsoft hasn’t invented anything : the internet ? unix hackers world-wide web (the same thing) ? unix hackers linux ? UNIX HACKERS
How does windows connect to the internet ? It uses a few-modified version of BSD sockets called winsock, what is BSD ? BSD is an unix-like system, like linux, BSD is open source, like linux.
And please use a recent version of mandriva, or suse, or ubuntu, or debian, or a REAL RECENT VERSION OF RED HAT.
It would really help if Tristan would acknowledge that this was a humorous bit, and not a real article. At first, I thought he actually believed what he was writing.
What RedHat by v3 was Red Hat Enterprise 3.0. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature would have known it but that’s hoping too much.BTW, ever heard of Ubuntu? If you’re an IT manager I’m pretty sure your company would be down in the slumps. At 1st I laughed so loud at the ridiculous articles posted on this site. Now I’m worried about people like this running America. I ain’t even going to bother commenting anymore.
First, the prossesor is not the only device on the computer, there is the RAM memory, HD, and other things that you must tell us about the computers you tested.
There are many linux distributions, some of them are made for a advances users, and others are made for Human Beings, try to compare Ubuntu Linux 6.06 with windows and the story will be different
PD:this distribution is aviable in the site http://www.ubuntu.com, you can download it and install it without problems as you said you are a advanced user.
PD: the Internal Architecture of the AMD processor are better than the Intel Architecture, that is proved.
quote “I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web”
microsoft didnt do that.
the millitary invented arpanet, and that english guy invented the www.
So you really think that the Linux desktop is as you show it? Stupid american boy, do you really think that the americans are the better in the world? But how old are you?
Sorry, but if you hate Linux, it’s your problem and you don’t need to discriminate Linux users publically on the Web. If you are insane and see hallucinations, you are allowed to go to your psychologist.
Please replace your actual screenshot whit this : http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/29557-1.png
It’s better, isn’t it?
?Ǭ¨?Ǭ¥ This is how the STR site appears to a Linux User. The images are jumbled, the layout appears random. ?Ǭ¨?Ǭ™
Wow, how did you done this picture? With Microsoft?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äò?Ǭ¢ Paint for childs? I am a linux user, but unfortunately, I see… http://screenshots.my-images.be/hallucination.png
It’s a hallucination too?
I am a bad communist, I am going to eat you, haha.
“I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web.”
MUHAHAHAHAHA. THAT is the BEST. Microsoft, invent the Internet? Oh yes, sure, like it invented airplanes or hot water. Tell this to all the scientists and informaticians of the world and you’ll have to run for your life. Microsoft has never invented anything (yeah, making money out of bad copies of programs that existed before is a great source of money)
Internet was created by scientists and the army to communicate and exchange ideas in the 70’s and Microsoft didn’t even exist. Internet explorer is even the worst i’ve ever seen.
Firefox rules =3
1) u guys r it noobs
or
2) you know readers like bullshit
i’d say 2).
If you want to see graphics check this out dude!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a__LEQWBbg
Windows can’t make this thing happen ;).
If you want to see graphics check this out!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a__LEQWBbg
Windows can’t make this thing happen on their OS. ;)
You are a very fun person.
Yuor article is so funny.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND SILICON VALLEY!!
Ohh wait a sec, Holy Shit!! Silicon Valley is full of indian and mexican people, god dammit, they are written malicious code in OUR precious software!!!!
Who pays thou to say shit about linux?? Its the inminent destiny, fall of capitalism. And forgive my bad grammar, english isn’t my mother tongue.
I can only imagine the laughs that the techs got when you asked for CPU drivers :P Especially if you mentioned you were an IT person for your organization…
Almost as funny as this situation…
http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127
Haha
Red Hat 3.0.3 release date Mar 15 1996
http://www.owlriver.com/redhat_versions.html
I’m not going to sit here and read all 280 comments, but I have a hard time believing that anyone who knows anything about computers would honestly mistake Red Hat Linux 3.0 (from 1996) with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (which came out in 2003). That is like confusing Windows 2.0 with Windows 2000 (well, they both have 2 in the name, they must be the same, right?).
You are joking wright???
“We had been told that the newest version of RedHat Linux was version 3.0″ – The voices in your head told you this?
“the latest version of Netscape Navigator, the new browser from Firefox”
Have you installed Windows XP the new operating system from Internet explorer??
I still can’t believe that this blog is serious.
Tristan
Thanks for the excellent review. I just would like to add few more points.
With Windows you get the great Windows Genuine Advantage tool that helps you know that your Windows copy is genuine. With Linux you don’t get anything like that so you can never know whether your Linux copy is genuine. Justo google for “Windows Genuine Advantage” and you get over 5 million hits. Google for “Linux Genuine Advantage” and you get only 20 000. Guess who has the advantage?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?
About the spyware: with Windows you get a monthly scan with “Malicious Software Removal” tool and any malicious software is promptly removed. With Linux you don’t get anything like that so any Linux machine infected with malicious software can be turned into a spam bot, blasting unwanted spam to all of us. How utterly irresponsible!
About the passwords: In Linux they usually recommend that you should not use the root account every day. That is why the system asks you for passwords every now and then. How inconvenient! In Windows everyone can be an administrator and things just work.
trebuchet03 already discovered the link with a successors of yours at Tuttle City ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨ his server got hacked by the centos people and only after he threatened them with the FBI he got the things sorted out. You guys at Tuttle City are onto something ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨ is this the Silicon Valley V2 in the making?
Looking forward for your comparison between Windows Vista and Debian Potato!
I’m not going to resort to swearing or shouing, as that would give you an excuse to ingnor this post. I am going to talk clearly, politely, and in a good christian manner.
This reveiw was vastly unfair, it was comparing a 2/3 year old version of XP to a 8 year old copy of linux. Not only that but you used a vastly superior system for the XP.
You claim to be an IT manager, yet are un-aware of some of the more basic features of computer, or who created them, for instance IRC. I know very few people who are familiar with computers and the internet who do not know what IRC is. Yes is a jumbled mess of lines, where convosations are interupted, but it’s not your only choice regarding technical support.
Microsoft did not invent the modern compuyer, that was IBM, and they certainly didn’t invent the internet, or WWW as the first was developed by the militatary in the 70s, and the later by Tim Berners-Lee of the W3C (www.w3.org). Microsoft infact have only had a couple of highly unsucsessful ventures into the hardware market.
My Final point is that all your quoted qualifications appear to come from microsoft, and the only sources you stated were from the microsoft website, making this a biased reveiw at least.
Now if you would excuse me I’m about to go install Ubantu Linux on my computer. Feel free to email me with any replies you have to my comment
This is the funniest laugh I’ve had in a while….
This classic is right up there with the BOFH musings.
Andy.
BUAhahahahhahahaha
I don’t know what’s funnier, Tristan and Shelley or the endless blog of replies.
But if that is RH3, I’m DAMN impressed that:
1. you had a copy or could find a copy of RH3. (my oldest is RH 5.1)
2. that if that was RH3 that you could get it to work on anything newer than a P-166.
On a truely SAD note, my X broke awhile back and i actually used lynx to browse for a month until i got off my lazy ass and fixed it. CLI still rules.
Excellent writing.
Cheers and Beers
Very un-Christian of both Shelley & Tristan to be so xenophobic. You are paranoid of anything that does not conform to your right-wing Christian ideals. Killing aside, you are worse than the Taliban or any of the extremist muslims preaching hate.
Oh, & didn’t you know? Jesus is a communist. He promotes sharing & opposes the greed of the rich.
Did you know that the American NSA (National Security Agency) is using Linux?
“Linux was chosen as the platform for this work because its growing success and open development environment provided an opportunity to demonstrate that this functionality can be successful in a mainstream operating system and, at the same time, contribute to the security of a widely used system. Additionally, the integration of these security research results into Linux may encourage additional operating system security research that may lead to additional improvement in system security.”
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
This is the better joke that i’ve even read in my life. I’m a student in Chile and let me tell yuo that evey machine in my school has the Linux software. Why? The answer is easy, because Windows sucks, Linux has more than 1000 free and powerful programs for the developers,Windows is an OS like a toy, the people that create programs, the “programers” developers use Linux. Try to learn and use a Linux distribution like Fedora Bordeaux, Suse, Mandriva, Ubuntu, etc, etc, and you’ll see the really OS’s power, jajajjajaja.
quote: ‘I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web’ – sorry, not even close… Microsoft didn’t have anything to do with either one – the internet was built on Unix, and guess where Linux comes from? You sir are an idiot, and you probably got your certification from a Cracker-Jack box.
“With Windows you get the great Windows Genuine Advantage tool that helps you know that your Windows copy is genuine. With Linux you don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t get anything like that so you can never know whether your Linux copy is genuine. Justo google for ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Windows Genuine Advantage?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? and you get over 5 million hits. Google for ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Linux Genuine Advantage?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? and you get only 20 000. Guess who has the advantage?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?”
WGA is the worst piece of s**t M$ ever came up with. it doesn’t just check if your windows is “genuine” it checks much more information of your PC, without your approval (aka spyware)
And how many hits you get on google whith windows/linux genuine advantage doesnt matter
“About the spyware: with Windows you get a monthly scan with ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Malicious Software Removal?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? tool and any malicious software is promptly removed. With Linux you don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t get anything like that so any Linux machine infected with malicious software can be turned into a spam bot, blasting unwanted spam to all of us. How utterly irresponsible!”
No it is’nt, to remove the most of the spyware on windows you need a 3rd-party tool like Ad-aware. linux on the other hand doesn’t need an virus/Spyware-scanner because of all the 50,000xxx known malmware out there only about 50 are known to attack linux-machines, about 100 attacks Apple OS-X and about 45000 attacks Windows.
“About the passwords: In Linux they usually recommend that you should not use the root account every day. That is why the system asks you for passwords every now and then. How inconvenient! In Windows everyone can be an administrator and things just work.”
About the “asking for passwords all the time” thing, this is a feaure that M$ has copied(stolen?) from Linux and implented in the upcoming windows vista
“Looking forward for your comparison between Windows Vista and Debian Potato! ”
Debian potatoe? what distro is that? anyway the new version of Ubuntu that is released at the same time as Vista will deffinatly be the best choice for everyone who cannot afford to by an PC-upgrade for the unnessesary high specs. Visa requiers
Het Tristan, aren’t you the *ahem* ‘Micro$oft Certified’ guy involved in this:
http://www.tuttletimes.com/siteSearch/apstorysection/local_story_088201244.html
http://wwwf.centos.org/127_story.html?storyid=127
….
You must be fucking American idiot. Only God and Micro$oft is good for you. Go to the hell and do not moider proper peoples with your idiotic opinions. Take with you your God and Saint president bush, and go alltogether to the hell. Bye and Satan with you.
Please, go to http://www.freespire.org and download the iso file, burn a cd and install that to compare with windows. Seems like you need to compare the most similar rather than just toss in a linux that isn’t even up to date.
I do get weary of folks doing comparisons and never seem to get the sides as even as possible. So, give FreeSpire a whirl then you can do a much more appropriate article comparing windows to linux. Freespire is based on Linspire, formerly Lindows .. name change because microsoft threatened to sue in every european contry and tie up sales in litigtation. So, this Debian-based linux has been around for quite a few years now and is not even a newcomer. Thanks.
And, God Bless.!
I can’t believe SOO many people didn’t get the joke.
I’m not even American.. I guess I just understand satire well enough.
valium side effects
Hilarious article. Funniest thing though, is how so many idiots aren’t getting it. How thick does the parody have to get for them to understand it?
I guess they’re just annoyed because Tristan finally revealed the truth about how bad Linux is. Come on, it doesn’t even run MSN, jeez. I bet that Linux users love outdated technology so much that they get their food by hurling rocks at animals, and think fire is the newest scientific technology.
In the end, linux attacks good old American capitalism, making linux users freedom hating terrorist. Go back to communist Canada, damn hippies!
Truly, there ARE Linux distributions on DVD. You can just downloads isos off the Internet, which are free unlike Windows. Making a stable OS from volunteer charitable work without bilions of dollars is priceless. In the same way, you can slam volunteer groups like the Red Cross and St. Johns for providing first aid and medical help for free. Sometimes, the victims recover themselves and they don’t have to pay hundreds of dollars to private hospitals. Government intervention is communism. Subsidies to farmers is communism. Linux is a charity and volunteer foundation by itself. Look, I’ll just tell you why most people still use Windows without slamming the Microsoft marketing department. I have Linux on my laptop and it runs smoothly.
1) Teens hardly use it because there are hardly any commercial games on Linux, some which are playable using Wine(Wine is not an emulator) but not all of them. Most game developers refuse to make non-Windows games for several reasons. The main one being laziness to learn a new OS.
2) Though installating anything on Linux like Flash Player is not hard to do( Most online installations have manuals), most people are disturbed by the lack of the “Install.exe” feature.
3) Accountants don’t use it because it hardly runs Quicken or MYOB and Crossover Office isn’t that advanced yet.
Personally, the only thing preventing me from typing Format C: is Reason 1.
From the start of the article, I guessed that this must be a crazy joke of some sort because no writer with even the smallest hint of sanity would write something as absurd and as recklesslessy irresponsible as this. There are some things that are very disturbing though, one of which is the enormous number of reactions this article has been getting. I can understand the way some people reacted especially from the Linux community (only Linux users can understand how much love we have for the Linux OS). It might be a joke to some, but to others it might be more. Sort of like the way we joke about other people’s relatives sometimes, others can take it while others can’t. I am a Mandrake-Suse-Ubuntu user myself, and I have used Linux servers for much of the past 9 years (I am an admin for an IT department). But I do admit that I am also a Windows user, because I am an avid PC gamer. Let’s admit it, there are more games for Windows than there are casinos in Nevada. But to publish something as crazy as this would be terribly misleading to people who do not know a thing about Linux. As a writer or whatever, you do have a responsibility to your readers and would-be readers. After reading this, some people will forever have the misconception that Linux is made to be destructive and is a tool to end the world. Without Linux and Unix, we wouldn’t even be having this exchange of words. What is also really disturbing are some of the responses from people who are “pro” to the article, with comments that stand on racist grounds. These two issues comprise the real tragedy that resulted from this article – it is not about Shelley’s or Tristan’s points of view or ignorance of the subject matter or terrible misinformation. After 9/11, the world has become a more untrusting, more paranoid one. This article has in one way or another, contributed again to this paranoia (most especially with the article’s mention of terrorist connections). The real crime in all this is not Linux or Windows or whoever invented what – it’s ignorance and stupidity and narrowmindedness.
LOL Microsoft Invented the Internet and WWW ? Erm NOPE LMAO.
Neither was invented by any commerical Entity in the first place which is why they are soo successful. They were developed using similar principles to OPEN SOURCE a long time before term was coined.
Had either been developed by Microsoft/IBM et al they wouldnt have succeeded as they would have been too busy trying to extract large licensing fees off anyone using it and getting Software Patents on everything and everything :-))
Just compare success of TCP/IP to SNA (IBM). Nuff said :-))
PS. before we get the Windows ‘Fanboys/Borg’ making comments about ‘Linux Commie’ etc in my direction. Im a heavy duty Windows User LOL
Good to be considered during 80’s.
The greatest thing about this wonderful satire, is that “real IT professionals” actually wrote longer posts than the original article, refuting Tristans sarcasm line by line. It’s a joke people. The only people I feel sorry for are those who are not native English speakers, as at least they have an excuse to not catch the sarcasm.
Can’t wait for the next review! :)
When Government regulates the public loses!
I think it is good if Microsoft competes aggressively. I do not think that they should be regulated in any way. It is, otherwise, like stopping, a political party for getting?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? too many votes?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? and for competing aggressively and then accusing the winning party to be a monopolist (in the political process you will have this ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?monopoly?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? by only getting majority votes).
When people buy products, they, by these very actions, actually, vote for those products. We should accept and respect that. Talk is really cheap and only actions count. Only by actions people manifest their true values. The political process is, therefore, no substitute for the complex market process. If, for instance, people do not like Microsoft?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s actions and ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?attitude?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?, they will try out alternatives. Those values counts and influence the market outcome.
It is not, only, the quality of the products that counts. Advertising is very important too. If consumers do not know about products, what good are they? How can products that no one knows about benefit the common man?
Innovation in itself is of no value if the consumers do not demand it. If some products are technologically superior to others and are not demanded, it does not prove that anything is wrong. It is an illusion to ask the ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?experts?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? which products that should ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?dominate the marketplace?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?. Because people are happy in those cases with the inferior ones and it is this ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?happiness?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? and consumer satisfaction that counts. If this ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?happiness?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? is dependent upon ignorance, advertising, as mentioned, is demanded and will be profitable.
The price of a product depends upon how much the consumer values it. For instance, the market price for a house is not the same as the market price for a glass of milk. If, for example, the OS Vista will not be highly valued by the consumer, the price of it will fall. If it will be highly valued, consequently, the price will be high. So, Microsoft has every incentive to make, in the point of view of the consumers (and not in the eyes of some ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?experts?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?), a valued OS.
I also think that it is good that Apple and Linux compete aggressively with each other and with Microsoft. In some market segments Apple is the leader and in the server market, Linux is the leader.
The essence with this comment is that the market process is a very complex thing and all sorts of values are ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?computed?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? and taking account for. Only the market process can handle this complexity and satisfy human wants and this process can only work properly if the market is free. Governments are no substitutes for the market process.
Bj??rn Lundahl
G??teborg Sweden
OK. I’ve read this and I have a lot of things to do.
Yeah, Linux is an open source system, everyone can see its source code and everyone can work with it. Windows, instead, is a close-code system and can’t be edited or modified (At kernel level).
Yeah, Microsoft is a big enterprise, with years of experience, and, from the old DOS times (I think is a good system, even now, when you install the adequate third-parties NTFS and FAT32 support libraries), it was a growing enterprise.
Yeah, Microsoft creates Windows, a system easy to use, to compete against MacOS (You, as IT from Microsoft, you will know Windows 1.0 was maded, really, only to “probe” the graphical interfaces on PCs). Windows 3.0 was really the very first Microsoft system with graphical interface with a big quantity of users.
And Yeah, Microsoft everytime is supporting new technologies, that is the reason of full compatibility.
But…
There are some little things, some very little reasons, because that I prefer my loved Ubuntu:
- Yeah, Open source is for be edited and “hacked”, and is a system for hackers only that don’t believe in God and hating Bush and America. Yeah, I’m not United-States-er, I hate northamericans (not all, of course, I have American friends, but I hate the American Idiots… the 85% of population). I hate Bush and his policy of “What’s ‘the rest of the world’? They have oil? Go invade it! ^^”. I BELIEVE in God, and I think the knowledge is for human beings. Microsoft DON’T collaborate to this, making the computer a “black box”: You turn on, use and shut off. We don’t want that. We want to know how the system goes. What’s a MMX2 call to processor? How a “kernel” can support the entire system? What is the result if I change this little line in the kernel? Wow, system isn’t working. I reinstall and I’ve learned something new ^^. You can’t learn really with Windows.
Microsoft is an experienced enterprise with years of life. I remember in the old DOS times, I remember it, my little cute MS-DOS 3.3, one time, I went to run a program and I see the message:
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Disk Killer — Version 1.00 by COMPUTER OGRE 04/01/1989
Warning! Don’t turn off the power or remove the diskette while Disk Killer is processing! PROCESSING
Now you can turn off the power. I wish you luck.
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It was my very first met with a Virus. It was a… strange experience, more thinking I don’t knew at that time how to reinstall the system.
When Windows 95 comes, all was cool and nice, but the hing I hates all my life:
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A fatal exception xx has occured at xxxx:xxxxxxxx. The current application will be terminated.
* Press any key to terminate the current application
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When Windows 98 comes, my deception was very big when that f– BSOD appears while “Windows is starting at first time”.
Windows ME was really a piece of –. Only Windows Movie Maker i liked.
When I used Windows XP, I thinked, “is based in a NT kernel. Then, the system will be more secure”. Now, at the present time, using Windows 98 is safer than using XP. More than 400.000 viruses and adware, and spyware are on the Internet thinked for attacking the MS system.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5003827173696635263
Oh, but you as Microsoft engineer you know that…
I tested Ubuntu, because i was SICK of all the viruses, and then the motherf– “Genuine advantage”, because I won’t give any personal data to Microsoft (even if they don’t use it), my system was marked as “illegal” and even with a genuine Windows XP Home CD, now is recognized as “illegal”. That f– star blast my c– all the day (I everytime has maintained the clock area clea, and that star is a piece of dust in my “clean” computer).
OK. I agree, I had a little problem with my 2 soundcards, but I solve easily modifying only 1 configuration file, and now the system is working perfectly. I can navigate even in keygen.us without be f–d with spyware.
Yes, Linux has a console system, leaving graphical…… YEEEAHHH!!!! From DOS times I wanted a good console with hundreds of commands to use. When Windows 95 deletes commands like Mirror, Undelete and qbasic, I feel angry. Now, i have a very powerful console with more than 500 commands ready to learn and use.
You has compared Linux with Windows. Of course Windows is best if you compare with a old linux!!! Is like comparing Windows 2.0 with Ubuntu 6.4!!! In that case, who will win?
And at the lot of times I recompiled the kernel, my Ubuntu HASN’T HALTED EVEN ONE TIME. No BSOD, no crashing, no nothing!!! If a program halts, I click in “close” and it is closed. Yeah, XP have that option, but it takes about 20 seconds in closing (or more, sometimes. Some times Movie Maker has crashed and I waited about 16.5 minutes to see the “Send error report”. I started to close the Process instead the app). In my ubuntu, instead, the more I wait are 4 seconds. AND I HASN’T NEED to throw my old PC to use the new system: My Ubuntu runs, in my other system, very good. And my other system is an AMD K6-2 system with 8 GB of HD and 128 MB RAM.
And the final part: The price.
Linus Trovalds isn’t a rich guy, the users collaborating aren’t rich guys for helping Linux (I know Red Hat and other enterprises sell Linux, but they are closed systems now, like Windows and I don’t consider them in the Open Source Community). I can download and install Ubuntu paying only Internet cost and the CD/DVD. All the rest of things are free on the Internet, ready to use. Bill Gates, instead, has 52.000+ million dollars, he can feed an entire country for 4 months, and the prices for their systems, with errors and lot of s–, are too high for a normal guy here. Is because that all piracy goes on.
Knowing how you act, I’m sure you’ll delete this post, but I’m ready for post it again the times I must. And I can copy your blog post in any community, for laugh of you.
Can I finish with a song?
Conversion software version 7.0,
Looking at life through the eyes of a tired hub,
Eating seeds as a past time activity,
The toxicity at our city, of our city,
New, what do you own the world?
How do you own disorder, disorder,
Now, somewhere between the sacred silence,
Sacred silence and sleep,
Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep,
Disorder, disorder, disorder.
More wood for their fires, loud neighbors,
Flashlight reveries caught in the headlights of a truck,
Eating seeds as a past time activity,
The toxicity of our city, of our city,
New, what do you own the world?
How do you own disorder, disorder,
Now, somewhere between the sacred silence,
Sacred silence and sleep,
Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep,
Disorder, disorder, disorder.
New, what do you own the world?
How do you own disorder, disorder,
Now, somewhere between the sacred silence,
Sacred silence and sleep,
Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep,
Disorder, disorder, disorder.
When I became the sun,
I shone life into the man’s hearts,
When I became the sun,
I shone life into the man’s hearts.
Toxicity, from System of a Down, dedicated with love to Bill ^^
PS: Has you noticed the name? Bill, what’s a bill? And a gate? The name is very appropiated! Bill Gates for Information ^^
is the author of the article mentally challenged and/or from Kansas ?
congratulation, Tristan, great art project. I wish I thought about this first …
Ubuntoo sucks.. when will u ppl inderstand?
Ubuntu hater: Say why you think it sucks. Explain with reasons. Tristan will be with you.
This just proved my suspicions that this is truly the work of LORD Jesus. Comparing a 2 gig amd to a 2 gig intel?
then saying that AMD didn’t give drivers ???? Thank you God!
I love this.
Then Bonzi buddy HA HA HA
then the so called view of the website using netscape navigator. We use firefox now and can see you no probs.
Then the internet installation – depositories anyone?
God Bless America!
you have the answer to the great problem of windows… what is? You!!! HOw do you can say “I’m a software developer” if you only can write a software and don’t can create a software
The world isn’t have 1D… we can see 3D
% cat “food in cans”
cat: can’t open food in cans
% nice man woman
No manual entry for woman.
% “How would you rate Quayle’s incompetence?
Unmatched “.
% Unmatched “.
Unmatched “.
% [Where is Jimmy Hoffa?
Missing ].
% ^How did the sex change operation go?^
Modifier failed.
% If I had a ( for every $ the Congress spent, what would I have?
Too many (’s.
% make love
Make: Don’t know how to make love. Stop.
% sleep with me
bad character
% got a light?
No match.
% man: why did you get a divorce?
man:: Too many arguments.
% !:say, what is saccharine?
Bad substitute.
% %blow
%blow: No such job.
% \(-
(-: Command not found.
$ PATH=pretending! /usr/ucb/which sense
no sense in pretending!
$ drink matter
matter: cannot create
Well….First thing I did upon reading this “review” was to print it out and give it to some others at my company. A couple of these employees, I suspect, are “pot-heads” so they should find it more than slightly amusing.
Anyways, where do I start pointing out the inaccuracies here? M$, who “invented the internet” as you claim, didn’t even know what the net was during their Win 3.1 beta when I suggested reporting via usenet newsgroups inhstead of Compu$erve. And what does this- “Some years ago I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥m proud to say that I graduated as a Microsoft Certified Engineer” – mean? I have an MCSE, did’t need to graduate from any school to recveive it- just pass the tests.
Oh yeah- FreeBSD, which I run on several servers here, is not an “earlier version of Linux.” It descends directly from BSD, developed at Berkeley (Berkeley code, BTW, comprised almost 90% of AT&T UNIX).
And what the heck is “Windows 2003″? There is a server-based OS with this name, but no desktop OS. Oh, and a quick hint- you don’t need “cpu drivers” to install Linux on AMD machines. I think you need to pray for some technical support…..
ueee faccc d merddd
linux vs.windows webhosting.???
I wondered which should be used for dynamics sites using flash css javascript forms etc.
I was looking at this companies corporate plan and would like to have the option to set up several seperate websites for different customers
assigning each an allotment of space with seperate access by them and allowing me access is this site suitable for my needs or is it as it seems just too good to be true???
pure comedy, now here’s a screenshot of my desktop, know yourself out!
Tristan,
It might help your legitimacy if you used(from multiple) sources to backup your beliefs. However this may be hard since you get almost everything you say wrong. Everything from your extremely limited technical background(which you claim to be even near substantial, which it is not) to your inability to use facts and common knowledge is astounding. Until any of this changes however, your site(and all of its articles, on Linux at least) remain as true as any conspiracy theory of aliens landing on earth. Just in case you can not determine between what is reality and not in that last sentence, aliens have never landed on earth.
OMG that is too funny, I hope you know your idealism is once again subject to my opinion, being that of which I know that Red Hate was released in 1993 (Hmmmmm 10 years prior?) Check out Red Hat 6 or umm maybe SuSE 10.2 (Featuring XGL, to which Microsoft claims that it is their sole patent, Ironically, XGL was developed BEfORE Windows Vista and heck even Windows XP!
[Editor's note - This post was copy/pasted directly from here http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_A.html.]
[Editor's note - As was this one.]
Oh, but you are dummer than i could have ever imagined. First of all, if u do have that shitty certificate doesn’t mean u are qualified to test os systems(that might be a fake). Second of all, that redhat version is antique, maybe you would wanna try something like Mandriva, Or suse Linux, or THE LATEST of redhat. Here in linux, we use thunderbird mostly or kmail, which is far better than outlook. Btw, linux doesn’t need antivir at all, beause of it’s high security, and yes, linux is what drives the internet. If there woudn’t be linux, there wouldn’t be internet. Maybe next time you wanna publish something like that read some fukin’ documentation before.
First of all a B I G thanks to the Author -it’s a quite an amazing text.
BUT what is really scary is the fact that 90% of the readers DO NOT GET THE POINT.
This paints a very very sad picture of the IQ of the posters that still try to convince you that Linux isn’t that bad WTF!
It’s the devil’s work. And if you don’t understand that, you’re probably going to hell!
Arghhhhhhhh
90% of the readers are generally blind. None of them is a real user. They are IT managers (in general not programmers), who don’t like their users can understand too many things in their OS. Of course to be so blind you must be completely indoctrined from an ideology.
They suffer from a well known sentence: Complicated means professional… lol
Best regards to the author. Nice analyse…
P.S.
For all GNU-s. Don’t read Richard Stallman as a bible. Right now he is no more then a poor communist.
jajajaja, i like this America! God bless it and keep it strong!
These comments are hilarious from these incompetent children. Linux is just a big waste of time: People who say servers run “better” on Linux is like saying the Mac OS plays games better than a Windows PC. Not only that — Linux takes forever to boot up, and if you power down the PC while it is on, it has to go through this big whole ordeal next time you try to run the poorly designed “operating system.”
But some people just seem to dumb to be true: Windows is installed on probably every computer that you can buy in a store or a company: Dell, Gateway, Compact, eMachines, Alienware, HP… you name it. Nobody wants to screw around with Linux. I’d rather try and play the latest computer game on an iMac than try and print a document through the monstrosity that is Linux.
Never mind my credentials – I am writting this using IBM’s internal Red Hat workstation Client, and I can tell you for a fact, that you have no clue what you’re talking about, which is nothing to be ashamed of – I can say the same for 95% of all IT managers that I have met, abt 40% of all republicans, and 100% of everybody that cannot shut up about being a patriot. 911, 911, 911…terror, terror, terror! you are letting the people that feed you their lies, rape your country and your planet…and you’re pulling down your pants and bending over.
I love all the vitriolic bile that has been spewed on both sides. With the amazing power of the internet at your fingertips the author instead chooses to write drivel without any due diligence. Yes this is a legal term. You may choose to ask your pastor/priest what it means or if you wish to find out what it actually is, please google it (assuming you can handle that google is a heavy user of linux). Please continue to post these wonderful articles! All you do is damage your cause and make my party (republicans) look like a bunch of nethanderals.
I can only assume that this entire site is only designed to be some sort of counter intelligences or anti espionage ploy.
I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web. Where would we have been without Microsoft?
??? don’t know where you have learned that but microsoft did not invented internet. and microsoft did not invented modern computer, though from your sentence I haven’t got the picture what do you comprehend by the term. however, macs were there before any win and unices (that is plural of unix) were there for decades…….
Why is it always SuSe or RedHat that are compared to Windows? For ease of use get Kubuntu or Ubuntu, for a good solid system get Slackware, for a middle of the road distro grab Debian.
it’s because suse and red hat are between the best. So is debian, and Slackware. Nothing personal here, however, Ubuntu and Kubuntu still has some major security flaws. They still have to work at it. Of course, it’s still much better than Windows, that’s for shure.
Srry about the spelling error “still have”..
I don’t claim the buntus as my distros of choice, just saying that they’re about as easy a release as I’ve seen, of course I only used them briefly before moving on to gentoo/slackware types that give me more controll of everything at the cost of compiling my own apps and editing a fair ammount of config files with nano. Amazing thing about Kubuntu was that it detected all of my hardware and set it up well, not perfectly but completly functional, and for someone that builds computers from spare parts that’s a pretty good feat. It’s my goal to be what this blog professes to fear most, a linux evangelist, I’ve allready got a youth center to have me take one of thier computers and set it up with Linux as a test run to see if they want to switch thier network over. That would make me feel really good, taking out a whole windows XP network with some volunteer time setting up Debian for them.
True, ubuntu is automated in most views, but they still have to work at it there. Good luck with that youth center…knowing how kids are, you might have dificulties with that. Anyway, i guess ppl use the distro that fits them… But then again, there are ppl like shelly, trolls, that claim “my distro is the best, rest suck”, and that kind of stuff.
[...] Shelley The Republican : The Freedom Blog ?Ǭ¨?Ǭ™ Linux and Windows Compared: The Facts very funny comparison of windows and linux. (tags: humour) [...]
The kids that go there check email and play RuneScape, if Java works and the browser is recognizable as such I doubt they’ll care what it runs on.
A lot of people are responding by saying that you used an old version of linux. Thats not true. The latest versions of ‘linux’ are really just pirated copies of windows. Steve Balmer said so himself, saying that linux violates microsoft patents. Its too bad that these Europeans are wasting their time making windows look different and try to pass it off as linux, because they could be using their time much more productively. Your comparison was fair and square, and these Europeans are still doubting you. All I can say is hang in there, because now that microsoft has put in that much needed drm into the operating system, the ‘linux’ using European commies won’t be able to steal windows anymore.
hehe :))…who is this “American” guy?? i suppose you have not the smallest idea what a kernel is, and never the less, you have no idea what pirated means. You know mate, it’s proven fact that all of “Fista’s” effects were stolen from Mac and from compiz/beryl/xgl project….. Maybe you should do some reading…Btw, microsoft’s DRM was imposed by Hollywood, and is causing quite nasty user feedbacks….
Linux burned down my house and raped my dog
“”Linux burned down my house and raped my dog”" =)))))))))))))))))
looooooooooool….ROFL….
I don’t know if this is a joke or not. If it’s a joke, good job. If this is the real thing, you’re sorely behind the times.
I recommend you look on YouTube for the terms XGL, AIGLX and/or Beryl. You will definately be impressed by what you see. I’m not entirely sure if Windows’ graphics layer is capable enough to run this sort of thing (Vista would probably require a 9GHz Pentium 7 to successfully come close).
I am seriously looking forward to switching to Linux and dual-booting between Linux, XP, Win98 and Vista when required. My current XP system on my 2GHz P4/512MB system runs so slowly that someone once said that it was more like a 500Mhz P3/128MB! Often, there are so little resources available that programs (such as the taskbar and desktop) simply crash! And I have no viruses!
I must admit, though, Windows 95b would be the best version of Windows ever released. On my several-years-old 656MHz laptop it opens Explorer windows faster than I can blink my eye, Web browsing is great, and I have over 200 programs installed on the system. However, any PC with a “Designed for Windows XP” logo on it will not work with Windows 95, so 98 would have to be substituted, and you’ll have to forget that there are USB ports on the computer you install on because Win95 is more or less unreliable with USB.
I’m just wondering about the BonziBuddy… were did you manage to get hold of such a great piece of software that was discontinued 2 years before you wrote this?
ok first off go to youtube and check out the linux vs windows vista. it will show you how weak windows is. second why would you want an os where they have to disguise the fact that its broken with updates they dont even call them fixes or anything like that its just an update. windows breaks and is outdated in seconds. linux constantly updates itself and they are actually updates. usually just new games or a new way to make the desktop look cooler. windows is lame. convert to mandriva linux. it will save your life.
Even though this is a year old, I see it’s still getting comments. I’ve always considered it to be a sort of Sacha Baron Cohen in cyberspace–if Borat were a techie, so to speak. As I’ve always considered Borat and Ali G a bit cruel–the whole amusement aspect is seeing how foolish people who aren’t in on the joke can be–let me make a few points, especially for those who don’t have English as their first language.
Much as we OSS folks like to think MS people are completely technically ignorant, let’s look at this. Let’s even assume that Tristan is ignorant, just as we assume that Borat (played by a somewhat religious Jew) is really anti-semitic. Tristan tries to find a copy of Linux in 2006. He finds RH 3. Where? He would have either used google or perhaps a computer store, and neither one would have RH 3 available. I believe that 5.x was from the later 1990’s, though I’m too lazy to check.
I suspect the BSD is a part of Linux and comes on tapes was simply added sarcasm. However, we’ll let that one pass–to an MS-centric person, they might think BSD is another type of Linux.
The first really obvious clue–Bonzi Buddy and Comet Cursor. The guy says that he was an admin. No admin wants Bonzi Buddy. Even the most clueless users, back in the Win9x days call the admin to say, “My friend sent me this really cute thing, but it’s becoming a pain–how do I take it off?”
If he couldn’t make it any more obvious, he mentions DRM. (Blaring horns and Monty Python Spanish Inquisition Voice)
NOBODY likes DRM. Even on a patriotic site, DRM is a perfect example of how a few people in power manage to bribe or otherwise coerce people in power to subject the average citizen to something which benefits no one but a few people who already have more money than they can spend. Basically against all the principles of the US. How the heck the RIAA has managed to get away with it so long is a mystery, though there are indications that the tide is changing.
So, for those who read this article,I think we can be pretty certain that it is satire. As for Tristan, if you see this comment, as Ali G would say, “Respect.” I think the man is brilliant. And like the humor of Ali G’s creator, the most interesting part is seeing how many people don’t see the joke.
first and foremost, there is a reason that you are writing articles and not working in the tech industry… I don’t care how good you did in school… I as a tech must say, I just can’t fix stupid. did you not open google before deciding on what version of linux to try, or did you use those tech skillz. Nice. And criticizing text based installs? you weren’t a tech… I think your full of it, windows is built on text based operations, and with any technical knowledge you would know that. and the whole idea of installing windows 2003, gj… install a server? just goes to show your technical knowledge on the topic. and an AMD vs Intel come off it. So asides from not knowing anything about software/operating systems or hardware? how do you feel you are qualified to write about this? the first post to this ridiculous article about sums it up… you shouldn’t be using a computer period, excellent job.
P.S. I particularly liked the point that you installed Bonsai Buddy… lmfao thats excellent.
lol, you don’t actually hallucinate on pot.
Gosh, man, you’ve nearly killed me :D! I DO BELIVE you don’t mean this crap :)..
[quote]I do however admit an admiration for the company that gave us the modern computer and invented both the Internet and the world-wide web. Where would we have been without Microsoft?[/quote]
hello! God Bless you Tristan.. I guess you’re too carried away coz Microsoft Certified you! MS!!? The company “that gave you the modern computer and the Internet”!!
Give me a break.. First go and find out what all in Windows is true innovation and not stolen from somewhere else.. (by the M$ definition of stealing software, of course) Wish you all the best.. If you do your homework well, i think you’re going to be deeply disappointed.
where would the world have been without M$..?
may be in a much better position as far as computing is concerned.
cheers!
The article is a lie, it is false.
From Spain.
Red Hat
http://images.google.es/images?hl=es&q=red%20hat&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
Windows
http://www.entregeeks.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/pantalla-azul-windows_xp_bsod-www_entregeeks_net-500.png
Hope everybody has (or had) a nice holiday.