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Europe : Friend or Foe?

What is the role of Europe in the modern world? Do they have a role? Could they have? What are they doing and what are not?
Sure as hell they are not supporting us in our efforts to get rid of the terrorists. They like to enjoy the freedoms but don’t want to do anything for it. They are even unable to defend themselves. Look at the trouble France hat in Paris. They could not even stop the riots in there own backyard. It took over two weeks until it stopped. Well, it is another approach to the subject, right? Just sit and wait until the rioters are exhausted.. Truly pathetic.

We helped UK to win the war against the Nazis and that is how they thank us? Disgraceful. Without the American intervention the Nazis would have probably won the 2nd world war. How can this be? How can they be so selfish? Especially because we don’t ask for a favor, we all, the civilized world is threatened by the terrorist killers and they do nothing to help us? We end up sacrificing now over 2100 of our soldiers and billions of dollars for the good of the world and they do NOTHING?

Can somebody please tell me what is going on? When did the Europeans lose their spine?

Your truly,
Shelley

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  1. One Angry Patriot December 4th, 2005 12:11 AM

    Have you even been to Europe? I have and I can understand their point of view. As far as the riots in Paris are concerned, you’re partially correct that they decided to wait until the rioters were exhausted. Europeans value life more than material possessions, so as long as the rioters weren’t killing anyone, they were content to let them express their anger. Cars can be replaced and buildings can be repaired or rebuilt.

    Europeans are smart enough to realize that a war in Iraq as a response to the attacks of September 11, 2001 is as ridiculous as attacking Mexico as a response to the bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi people had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

    Osama bin Ladin is still alive and well, over four years later. The war in Iraq is just wasting time, money and military resources that should be used to deliver justice to our attackers, rather than injustice to innocent civilians.

  2. Brian Coughlan December 4th, 2005 7:28 AM

    Europe has converted at least 3 dictatorships to democracy without firing a single shot, or killing a single person.

    Greece, Spain and Portugal are all now integrated into the EU and established democracies.

    The way to convince and lead is by example, not by force. Who could be convinced of anything the US government says today. They appear to have lied about almost everything of significance in the last 4 years.

  3. Brian Coughlan December 4th, 2005 7:49 AM

    The EU has been responsible in the past 30 years for converting 3 dictatorships to democracy.

    Spain, Greece and Portugal were all dictatorships in the 70′s. They were convinced that their future lay within the EU, and these countries gradually introduced democracy and EU legislation to qualify for membership.

    No one was killed, not a single shot was fired. Quite a contrast to Iraq and Vietnam.

    Europeans are smart, and their politicians are elected by systems that are signficantly more sensitive to public opinion than the US system. Thus they need to pay much closer attention to their citizens than US politicians do.

    Given that 70-80% of Europeans where vocally against participation in the Iraq war, the governments had no choice but to turn Bush down.

    Thats the affect of … whaddy call it … oh yeah … DEMOCRACY.

  4. Rick December 5th, 2005 12:36 AM

    Well. You can’t really compare Europe and America this way.
    Fact is that we saved their ass and they are kicking our ass now, when we try to solve the problems of the world.
    Quite a friend, right?

  5. Brian Coughlan December 5th, 2005 6:54 AM

    Rick, you saved our ass after sitting on the sidelines and waiting until all of Europe was occupied by a raving lunatic. Then when the actual survival of the US was threatened you intervened and bailed us all (yourselves included) out.

    We Europeans on the other hand are intervening politically much earlier in the fascist spin cycle. That is to say, PRIOR to the US becoming a one party republican mock democracy.

    In fact we are not kicking your ass at all, but returning the favour of 60 years ago. We don’t hate americans, we are the guys who actually care!!!

    C’mon lads wake up and smell the corruption.

  6. Brian Coughlan December 6th, 2005 12:49 AM

    Just tumbleweeds on this thread … have you conceeded all our points Shelley?

  7. arkansasconservativeguy December 8th, 2005 4:28 PM

    Shelly,

    You are right again. Europe is a very sinful godless country first of all and they even let people smoke reefers in Brusels.

    When the Nazis came to take over France they just gave up and pu tup the white flag and drank expresso while they waited for America to save there ass!!!

    When has France ever help america?

    And when are president asked them to come help to kill Sadam Husein Europe should of said YES because they owe us from WWII.

    So let me summerize. Europians are all fat, stuck up and smelly and the smoke cigarets all over the place! We kicked Iraqs ass without them so we don’t need them! I suggest that everybody participate in Bill OReillys boycott against France which has already almost crippled there economy!

    (sorry, I made a correction, I meant save their ass, not kiss their ass)

  8. Udo December 8th, 2005 4:34 PM

    Arkansascoonservative,

    When did France help the US?

    Does the American revolution ring a bell?

    And they were vastly outnumbered by the nazis, and lost 100,00 men fighting them off, and continued a resistance during occupation.

    You seem very ignorant. Maybe you should visit Europe or learn something about it before talking smack about it.

  9. Udo December 8th, 2005 4:36 PM

    Oh, and Europe is a continent, not a country!

    Get an education!

  10. Tristan Shuddery December 21st, 2005 1:26 PM

    Oh, and Europe is a continent, not a country!

    Dont be such an ass, Europeans act all the same. Usless drones who bore us with the same old usless liberal talk – as far as I am concerned there are two sorts of people:

    The god-fearing Americans,

    The other guys – and I really dont care wether they are one country or a hundred thousand countries, because it just does not matter, as long as they dont get in our way.

  11. John April 22nd, 2006 9:53 AM

    Arkansascoonservative,

    I hate to tell you this but O’Reilly’s so called “embargo” against France hasn’t done anything to their economy. Infact their economy has grown since he announced his embargo. O’Reilly said he learned of the embargo working through the Paris business review, when he was put on the spot and asked where he learned it from. Research showed no magazine existed. You really gonna listen to a guy who thinks he can crush countries by saying he will embargo them? As for the French sure I think they have a surrender cowardly reputation, but I dare not even say that of the British, Poles, Russians, and many other countries. Every country has its high point in history and untill Bush got in power we were one of the most repected countries ever. Now nothing we say is trusted. (and why should it be when we assured the world we were threatened cause of WMDs and they had none) I remember I was in the Marine Corps when we went over there and I said to myself no way the President could be lying on this and if he is we will have egg on our face and when we are proven right the rest of the world will have egg on their face. Guess the rest of the world won that.

  12. Anonymous April 26th, 2006 12:13 PM

    I think you’ll find that the german army was in retreat and losing the war on the russian, african and southern-european front, aided by the english – before the US turned up. And a lot of lives were sacrificed to get to that stage before the americans turned up out of self-interest. So don’t ever disrespect those lost lives and people in concentration camps out of your total and utter ignorance.

    Tristan – your comments about the non ‘god-fearing-americans’ are more like an adolf speech that anything I have heard in a long time – are you going to start your own ethnic cleansing ?

  13. Anonymous April 26th, 2006 2:59 PM

    No offence, but the USA’s contribution to the war in Europe was minimal at best – the war was on on the eastern front, where 35 million Russian soldiers and civillians died to defeat the Germans.

  14. iom ecus April 26th, 2006 8:15 PM

    ok, I’m french and I surrender, I can’t even answer to such stupidity ! If only you were aware of what you’re talking about. Now I’ll drink an expresso while waiting for stupid american to make me laugh ! (by stupid american, I don’t mean that all american are stupid but that the american who are stupid are funny, I don’t generalize from an example)

  15. Windsock Fanny April 27th, 2006 9:15 AM

    Europe; Friend or foe?

    As a European (English to be exact, but we’re all the same lowlifes, let’s be honest), I am appalled by the shamefully blasphemous behaviour of my compatriots.

    Our streets are breeding grounds for all nature of unholy acts. Homosexualists blatantly mince on our streets with their disgraceful bottoms on show. Blacks and other foreigners go un-executed. Non-Christians are even allowed to have jobs. Some of my countrymen tolerate this disgraceful behaviour, I say “America! Haul your lardy overweight ignorant bigoted hateful superiority-complex-addled badly-educated arse over here and liberate us from ourselves!” We need razing to the ground with your excessive nuclear arsenal and repopulating with redneck white trash XXXL babies. Do it. You know you want to.

  16. Anonymous April 27th, 2006 12:27 PM

    Shelley,

    A friend of mine died last week fighting in Iraq. My brother is fighting in Afghanistan. I am British. So many other European countries, and countries around the world have sent their troops to support the US in Iraq.

    You complain so much about these countries being ungrateful to America for events more than 50 years ago and yet completely disregard their help, support and lives now.

    Yes, we have vocal press against the war in Iraq and American foreign policy, we also have very vocal press supporting the war in Iraq and America. It’s called a free press.

  17. Anonymous April 27th, 2006 3:45 PM

    I shoot Americans on sight. McDonald’s is in crisis.

  18. Kocka April 27th, 2006 4:24 PM

    Hi Shelley!

    You are absolutely right, please come and bomb us! :) This is what we, untermensch people deserve!

    Keep up the good work!

    best regards
    Kocka from Budapest

  19. Anonymous April 28th, 2006 8:01 AM

    Oh my god , you`re gonna be shocked, a german human-being is writting…oh wait, as you say all the germans aren`t human beings but nazi`s. And european are all the same, but as you always use your christianity (in another article you say that Germanes become mislins, but I and all the other people I know are christians, but I don`t know what`s wrong to be a muslin because we all believe in one god ) to argument i also do it this way: All people are the same and it doesn`t matter if they are americans or europeans or what ever. So what`s wrong with you? I would never say that it was ok what happened in the past but if you start like this: what`s with vietnam, iraq etc.
    I don`t expect an answer from you shelley because I am a german and you hate me although you don`t know me. Thanks a lot

  20. Mark April 28th, 2006 9:30 AM

    Oh and by the way: New york was first New Amsterdam when it was founded by the Dutch. They sold it to someone from the UK. They named it: New York after Yorkshire.

    The word Dollar (And it’s value) stems from the dutch word “Daalder”

    Brooklyn was named after the Dutch town “Breukelen”.

    And last but not least: Europe has more history and therefore knowledge and wisdom then the US.

    Your turn.

  21. Anonymous April 28th, 2006 10:31 AM

    Shelley,

    You are that immigration “officer” I was talking to at JKF (name ring a bell?)airport the other day and I claim my ?Ǭ¨?Ǭ£5.00. Or $10.00, whatevver.

  22. Anonymous April 29th, 2006 4:11 AM

    Shelley, i sincerelly wish you die

  23. Addis April 29th, 2006 11:57 AM

    Your racist and ignorant views disgust me. The superiority disease that you seem to have makes you think that America is the country that is blessed by God and all others should answer to it. Get a grip of reality please.

    I am far more intelligent than Americans, the British and Asians will rule the world because the USA is our enemy…..

    Idiots.

  24. Margit April 29th, 2006 4:28 PM

    Dear Shelley

    Please oh please. Give us your opinion on:

    Freedom of speech
    Evolution vs Creationism
    Critical thinking

    and perhaps..

    Spelling and grammar?

    Thank you for entertaining me!

    Regards
    Margit Larsen, Denmark

  25. Gog April 30th, 2006 9:38 AM

    Dear Shelley,

    I feel I must point out that you do not even have your own language, but use ours, English. We do not particularly mind this even though you show very limited command of it. After all, having been top nation, or there-abouts for about 500 years we can afford to be generous to you young upstarts.

    Start getting used to playing a minor role in future when the new economies of China and India take over. The British are adapting to this situation as we always do, but I am concerned that American attitudes will not allow them the same advantage.

    Gog

  26. Anonymous April 30th, 2006 5:06 PM

    USA: the borrower from every country in the world(language,culture,laws,religions and the list goes on), and you are actually critisizing and hating every country in the world. Usa has offered a lot to the world thats true, but other countries have offered a lot more, others a lot less, no country should be hated as a whole. Your wars all over the world are normal wars with economic targets, fighting terrorism? please, you have done nothing, despite what they say to you.
    Its just Show in afganistan, Oils in Iraq. Most of the 9/11 terrorists including Osama came from Saudi Arabia. Do you touch them though? nooo, they are holding bush by the balls.
    And you supporting that? You are really wasting your life.

    “America, the cradle of the best and of the worst”
    L.C.
    The truest thing about usa.

    Greetings from Greece!
    (if u know where that is or what is its history i d be impressed)

  27. Anonymous May 1st, 2006 8:04 AM

    Get an education you know nothing about history and you talk about it so read some book and you point of view will change it’s crazy to think like that you are just racist and narow minded.
    I love america but you make me ill

  28. Anonymous May 1st, 2006 12:07 PM

    that’s the reason why in Europe today live so few “true christians”. We sent them to America (or should i better say “we chased them away”?)
    in the past centuries. So now you live really in “gods own land”.
    Greetings from switzerland (NOT sweden), a neighbour country of austria (NOT australia)

  29. Shelley May 1st, 2006 12:29 PM

    Aw, great, my first comment from Swaziland!
    Have a great day,
    Shelley

  30. Anonymous May 1st, 2006 5:33 PM

    I am unsure whether this website is serious or a joke because surely no one can be this ignorant. This has provided me with some very amusing reading, as I am sure it will provide for many other average teenagers from a distant realm you may have heard of called England.

  31. Anonymous May 2nd, 2006 5:46 AM

    The reason is simple – I personally think that current US activities are worse than the Nacis’ ones. And anyway – your addition to winning thw WW2 was minimal – the russians (which is an empire of evil like you) would defeat the Nazis without your support easily …

  32. Anonymous May 2nd, 2006 7:20 AM

    We didn’t lose spine. You lost mind. Insane warriors.

    Never trust people saying “I want save the world from …. ”

    That said Caligula, Hitler, Stalin… … GWB

  33. Doctor Le Bon May 2nd, 2006 1:08 PM

    Well, shelley, bad news for you: I am an european, and together with the rest of Europe, and of course with my good friends – the chinese (all of them), are about to take over the whole world. And the good news: we’ll let you free because we’ll need such wonderfull therapy as the laughter you provide. I have a secret for you: from time to time we’ll give you some misterious pills to make you sleep. Please don`t tell anyone.
    Message to everybody else: please give me a subject to talk about!

  34. Guillermo May 4th, 2006 9:22 PM

    I am a Spanish guy who, as you can see, has learned your language, no problem. Will you ever learn anything different to your language, your history or your geography? I suppose not, probably you are too busy pointing at the next country that would be invaded. Really regrettable…

  35. Anonymous May 5th, 2006 7:17 AM

    So are we (as in Britain and Europe as a whole) goin to be the next “country” that you want to invade? No doubt the inasion will be based on a lie. Are you going to come and convert us to the American system of democracy, that should be interesting, considering we gave you the notion of democracy in the first place, just like we gave you the language, pretty much all of your people are of European ancestry. So before you go on about Europe, take off your blinkers, look at the country around you, get off your high horse and sit down and read a book and get some education. Maybe then you can actually have an opninion

  36. Anonymous May 14th, 2006 3:58 AM

    I think Arkansasasconservativeguy should sometimes reads book about the US history, because apparently he do not knows how is Lafaillette.

    It is not because the US take part of the ww2 that europe must do all the stupid thing that GWB wants. And effectively, the US army had kicked a lot of irakian civil’s ass without reason.

    If you’re interrested about history : France have already live a situation like Irak, so were in a good position to knows that Bush’s propositions were completely stupid.

  37. Anonymous May 17th, 2006 3:41 AM

    Dear Shelley,

    I LOVE this page – never met a greater comedy on web! :-D
    The story: An american citizen trying to bring up other americans against everything he doesn’t understand/know or doesn’t wish to exist. His acting big in combination with half-knowledge causes some kind of comedy never seen on the web before.

    Maybe you should get a little more information on the topics you blog about BEFORE you put your thoughts on the web. I personally was greatly amused about your blog “Gate to Hell / Seeking World Domination : GERMANY (“Hitlerdeutschland”)”.
    I cite: “Germany must be weakened. Otherwise they will attack us again like they did in Pearl Harbor!”
    Just an example for your great fund of knowledge – even american history seems to be a big challenge for your brain. Is that the way you think american should know their own history? If I may give you a hint: The forces that attacked Pearl Harbour – well – they weren’t even european – make a guess: Who attacked Pearl harbour? If you don’t know, consult a book of american history :-)

    In your methods you’re not even better than Michael Moore. He works by half-knowledge, too. Thank god not all republicans and other americans are as simple minded as you.

    God bless the world :-)
    Greetings from old Europe!

  38. Anonymous May 24th, 2006 3:22 AM

    Why don’t you get a job and help your great american friends to consume instead of writing such a rubbish? You are such a liar, shelley!

  39. James May 25th, 2006 1:33 AM

    Cant’t help myself, not to write this comment, You are GREAT Shelley !! For sure continue in your efforts. I hadnt so much fun in past few days as here in past half hour.

  40. anichka May 25th, 2006 1:53 AM

    For first time i got it! I got it how it works!
    So – let us summarize:
    - The europeans are all the same. The germans are Nazis – so – all the europeans are nazis! That is really great to know it after the idios try to learn me my whole life long, that to hate was not good…Really – jokers! Ha-ha!
    -Besides – we are at the same time nazis and “god respectless” “liberals” that let some junkies, gays, pregnant teenagers etc. live along them! Unforgivable! The asswholes tried to learn me, that was called “Freedom”!
    - Now I know! Freedom is:
    to kill some asswholes you don`t even know on some unknown place on the earth! God bless the WAR!God bless the KILLINGS! God bless the hate!
    I really feel like coming to america, where there are such a great understanding of GOOD and EVIL!

    *excuse my english – it will be the same since you don`t pretend to learn some …bulgarian:)

    Anyway – LOVE, PEACE, FREEDOM, HAPPINESS and relax, buddy!

  41. FUBAR June 12th, 2006 5:53 PM

    HI!

    Just one comment on this, and that’s “you are europeans” beacuse the eurpoeans immigrated to america in like the begining of 20th century.

  42. Zapp June 12th, 2006 5:55 PM

    I just have to ask you:

    Can somebody please tell me what is going on? When did the Americans lose their spine?

    http://lexikon.idgr.de/k/k_u/ku-klux-klan/kkk-1924.jpg

  43. Marteen June 28th, 2006 11:58 AM

    I think all Tristan should be the first in line to volunteer going to another country, meet a new culture, and then bomb it to oblivion. Like the American history is so well known for. what’s a matter with you chickenhawk? don’t you dare coming over to Belfast to kick some serious Ars? Did the cat get your tongue? Or maybe being in the front line isn’t all that hyped up as it was supposed to be?
    Maybe the smell of rotten bodies is not the same as one of your PC games?
    Answer me!!

    Norwegian War veteran from 1993, Jugoslavia…

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